Should This Guy Really Go To Jail For Defending Himself From A Thug??

[Biff_Poindexter]

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article258421183.html

"A man who had just been robbed at gunpoint at an ATM in southeast Houston opened fire in an attempt to stop his attacker but instead shot and wounded a 9-year-old girl in a truck driving nearby, police said. The girl remained hospitalized in critical condition after the shooting Monday evening, police said. [She later died]. The 41-year-old man who shot her was arrested and is expected to be charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, police said in a statement Tuesday.

She is the second 9-year-old girl to be shot in Houston within a week. Ashanti Grant remains hospitalized after being shot in the head during a road rage attack Feb. 8. In Monday’s shooting, the man and his wife were at the ATM at around 9:45 p.m. when another man walked up to their vehicle and robbed them at gunpoint, Slinkard said. As the suspect fled on foot, the man got out of his vehicle and opened fire, including at a pickup truck he thought the robbery suspect had climbed into, police said. But the truck carrying a family of five was not involved and had been “simply driving” down a street near the ATM, Slinkard said."

On one hand, you would want a man to be able to defend himself, his family and his property from criminals..so he had every right to go after this guy...however, he made the mistake of shooting at the wrong car...and a little girl got it.... It was an honest mistake, is it not? Sometimes you have collateral damage when there is a war...and there is a war on crime going on right now; this guy was just fighting back....he had to make a split second decision and this accident happened...Should he be charged with murder/manslaughter or no?

If he is ultimately charged with murder, won't this send the wrong message to the rest of us?? For example, you see someone trying to rob a person..and running off with that person's property....you shoot at the robber to try to stop his escape...and one of the bullets hit someone else - why should the law-biding citizen be charged in that scenario??

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Morons like this make the rest of us gun owners look bad. I hope he spends a good long time in jail after he is bankrupted paying for the medical bills of the 9 year old he shot.

 

[Likkmee]

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article258421183.html

"A man who had just been robbed at gunpoint at an ATM in southeast Houston opened fire in an attempt to stop his attacker but instead shot and wounded a 9-year-old girl in a truck driving nearby, police said. The girl remained hospitalized in critical condition after the shooting Monday evening, police said. [She later died]. The 41-year-old man who shot her was arrested and is expected to be charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, police said in a statement Tuesday.

She is the second 9-year-old girl to be shot in Houston within a week. Ashanti Grant remains hospitalized after being shot in the head during a road rage attack Feb. 8. In Monday’s shooting, the man and his wife were at the ATM at around 9:45 p.m. when another man walked up to their vehicle and robbed them at gunpoint, Slinkard said. As the suspect fled on foot, the man got out of his vehicle and opened fire, including at a pickup truck he thought the robbery suspect had climbed into, police said. But the truck carrying a family of five was not involved and had been “simply driving” down a street near the ATM, Slinkard said."

On one hand, you would want a man to be able to defend himself, his family and his property from criminals..so he had every right to go after this guy...however, he made the mistake of shooting at the wrong car...and a little girl got it.... It was an honest mistake, is it not? Sometimes you have collateral damage when there is a war...and there is a war on crime going on right now; this guy was just fighting back....he had to make a split second decision and this accident happened...Should he be charged with murder/manslaughter or no?

If he is ultimately charged with murder, won't this send the wrong message to the rest of us?? For example, you see someone trying to rob a person..and running off with that person's property....you shoot at the robber to try to stop his escape...and one of the bullets hit someone else - why should the law-biding citizen be charged in that scenario??

The answer ?
No driving by ATM machines without intent of using them.
Charge the father with reckless endangerment of a minor resulting in death.
This B amurrikah !
PS
Were the recipients in the car wearing maskage ? Must be a big car to allow 6 feet social distancing ??

 

[RodISHI]

A shame really but you are responsible to insure when you shoot the attacker that they will be the one getting the bullet and not an innocent person close in range.

 

[marvin martian]

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article258421183.html

"A man who had just been robbed at gunpoint at an ATM in southeast Houston opened fire in an attempt to stop his attacker but instead shot and wounded a 9-year-old girl in a truck driving nearby, police said. The girl remained hospitalized in critical condition after the shooting Monday evening, police said. [She later died]. The 41-year-old man who shot her was arrested and is expected to be charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, police said in a statement Tuesday.

She is the second 9-year-old girl to be shot in Houston within a week. Ashanti Grant remains hospitalized after being shot in the head during a road rage attack Feb. 8. In Monday’s shooting, the man and his wife were at the ATM at around 9:45 p.m. when another man walked up to their vehicle and robbed them at gunpoint, Slinkard said. As the suspect fled on foot, the man got out of his vehicle and opened fire, including at a pickup truck he thought the robbery suspect had climbed into, police said. But the truck carrying a family of five was not involved and had been “simply driving” down a street near the ATM, Slinkard said."

On one hand, you would want a man to be able to defend himself, his family and his property from criminals..so he had every right to go after this guy...however, he made the mistake of shooting at the wrong car...and a little girl got it.... It was an honest mistake, is it not? Sometimes you have collateral damage when there is a war...and there is a war on crime going on right now; this guy was just fighting back....he had to make a split second decision and this accident happened...Should he be charged with murder/manslaughter or no?

If he is ultimately charged with murder, won't this send the wrong message to the rest of us?? For example, you see someone trying to rob a person..and running off with that person's property....you shoot at the robber to try to stop his escape...and one of the bullets hit someone else - why should the law-biding citizen be charged in that scenario??

Way to let the robber off the hook, asshole. You're sick.

 

[hadit]

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article258421183.html

"A man who had just been robbed at gunpoint at an ATM in southeast Houston opened fire in an attempt to stop his attacker but instead shot and wounded a 9-year-old girl in a truck driving nearby, police said. The girl remained hospitalized in critical condition after the shooting Monday evening, police said. [She later died]. The 41-year-old man who shot her was arrested and is expected to be charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, police said in a statement Tuesday.

She is the second 9-year-old girl to be shot in Houston within a week. Ashanti Grant remains hospitalized after being shot in the head during a road rage attack Feb. 8. In Monday’s shooting, the man and his wife were at the ATM at around 9:45 p.m. when another man walked up to their vehicle and robbed them at gunpoint, Slinkard said. As the suspect fled on foot, the man got out of his vehicle and opened fire, including at a pickup truck he thought the robbery suspect had climbed into, police said. But the truck carrying a family of five was not involved and had been “simply driving” down a street near the ATM, Slinkard said."

On one hand, you would want a man to be able to defend himself, his family and his property from criminals..so he had every right to go after this guy...however, he made the mistake of shooting at the wrong car...and a little girl got it.... It was an honest mistake, is it not? Sometimes you have collateral damage when there is a war...and there is a war on crime going on right now; this guy was just fighting back....he had to make a split second decision and this accident happened...Should he be charged with murder/manslaughter or no?

If he is ultimately charged with murder, won't this send the wrong message to the rest of us?? For example, you see someone trying to rob a person..and running off with that person's property....you shoot at the robber to try to stop his escape...and one of the bullets hit someone else - why should the law-biding citizen be charged in that scenario??

No. If the perp was leaving, he had no legal right to shoot after him, because at that point it was no longer self-defense.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Better to see thousands of kids get shot than give up a single gun to the fascist state. Hope this brave citizen gets to appear zt CPAC before he gets locked up.

 

[bodecea]

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article258421183.html

"A man who had just been robbed at gunpoint at an ATM in southeast Houston opened fire in an attempt to stop his attacker but instead shot and wounded a 9-year-old girl in a truck driving nearby, police said. The girl remained hospitalized in critical condition after the shooting Monday evening, police said. [She later died]. The 41-year-old man who shot her was arrested and is expected to be charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, police said in a statement Tuesday.

She is the second 9-year-old girl to be shot in Houston within a week. Ashanti Grant remains hospitalized after being shot in the head during a road rage attack Feb. 8. In Monday’s shooting, the man and his wife were at the ATM at around 9:45 p.m. when another man walked up to their vehicle and robbed them at gunpoint, Slinkard said. As the suspect fled on foot, the man got out of his vehicle and opened fire, including at a pickup truck he thought the robbery suspect had climbed into, police said. But the truck carrying a family of five was not involved and had been “simply driving” down a street near the ATM, Slinkard said."

On one hand, you would want a man to be able to defend himself, his family and his property from criminals..so he had every right to go after this guy...however, he made the mistake of shooting at the wrong car...and a little girl got it.... It was an honest mistake, is it not? Sometimes you have collateral damage when there is a war...and there is a war on crime going on right now; this guy was just fighting back....he had to make a split second decision and this accident happened...Should he be charged with murder/manslaughter or no?

If he is ultimately charged with murder, won't this send the wrong message to the rest of us?? For example, you see someone trying to rob a person..and running off with that person's property....you shoot at the robber to try to stop his escape...and one of the bullets hit someone else - why should the law-biding citizen be charged in that scenario??

T's & P's

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Way to let the robber off the hook, asshole. You're sick.

Who did the robber shot?

 

[hadit]

Who did the robber shot?

I'm with you on this one. This was the wrong use of a firearm.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

No. If the perp was leaving, he had no legal right to shoot after him, because at that point it was no longer self-defense.

what if he believed the perp would pose an immediate threat to someone else?

 

[hadit]

what if he believed the perp would pose an immediate threat to someone else?

Irrelevant. Stop trolling.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Way to let the robber off the hook, asshole. You're sick.

How did I let the robber off the hook??

I'm not the police....nor am I the judicial system

So since simple questions trigger you, I will ask in crayon..

ShOuLd hE bE aRreEsteD?

Y or n?

 

[White 6]

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article258421183.html

"A man who had just been robbed at gunpoint at an ATM in southeast Houston opened fire in an attempt to stop his attacker but instead shot and wounded a 9-year-old girl in a truck driving nearby, police said. The girl remained hospitalized in critical condition after the shooting Monday evening, police said. [She later died]. The 41-year-old man who shot her was arrested and is expected to be charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, police said in a statement Tuesday.

She is the second 9-year-old girl to be shot in Houston within a week. Ashanti Grant remains hospitalized after being shot in the head during a road rage attack Feb. 8. In Monday’s shooting, the man and his wife were at the ATM at around 9:45 p.m. when another man walked up to their vehicle and robbed them at gunpoint, Slinkard said. As the suspect fled on foot, the man got out of his vehicle and opened fire, including at a pickup truck he thought the robbery suspect had climbed into, police said. But the truck carrying a family of five was not involved and had been “simply driving” down a street near the ATM, Slinkard said."

On one hand, you would want a man to be able to defend himself, his family and his property from criminals..so he had every right to go after this guy...however, he made the mistake of shooting at the wrong car...and a little girl got it.... It was an honest mistake, is it not? Sometimes you have collateral damage when there is a war...and there is a war on crime going on right now; this guy was just fighting back....he had to make a split second decision and this accident happened...Should he be charged with murder/manslaughter or no?

If he is ultimately charged with murder, won't this send the wrong message to the rest of us?? For example, you see someone trying to rob a person..and running off with that person's property....you shoot at the robber to try to stop his escape...and one of the bullets hit someone else - why should the law-biding citizen be charged in that scenario??

Bullsh#t. The guy is responsible for every round that leaves his weapon. He should have aimed better, checked the background better, and made the better "shoot/don't shoot" decision, we permit carriers were schooled in, when we were trained. If incompetent to handle the responsibility, he should not have been carrying.

 

[Mac-7]

Morons like this make the rest of us gun owners look bad. I hope he spends a good long time in jail after he is bankrupted paying for the medical bills of the 9 year old he shot.

I think the girl died

you were not there so dont so sure of your snap judgements

 

[hadit]

Bullsh#t. The guy is responsible for every round that leaves his weapon. He should have aimed better, checked the background better, and made the better "shoot/don't shoot" decision, we permit carriers were schooled in, when we were trained. If incompetent to handle the responsibility, he should not have been carrying.

Don't take him seriously. He's just trolling, trying to put 2nd Amendment supporters in a difficult position, assuming they will always support the use of a firearm. Like I said, trolling.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Irrelevant. Stop trolling.

Trolling how??

These are all questions that need to be addressed in these situations...

"..deadly force reasonably appears to be necessary to apprehend or prevent the escape of a person reasonably believed to: (i) have committed an offenseor (ii) be escaping by use of a weapon or who otherwise indicates that he or she poses a significant threat.."

Are you saying it was unreasonable for this man to believe the armed robber posed a significant threat to the community?

 

[BrokeLoser]

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article258421183.html

"A man who had just been robbed at gunpoint at an ATM in southeast Houston opened fire in an attempt to stop his attacker but instead shot and wounded a 9-year-old girl in a truck driving nearby, police said. The girl remained hospitalized in critical condition after the shooting Monday evening, police said. [She later died]. The 41-year-old man who shot her was arrested and is expected to be charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, police said in a statement Tuesday.

She is the second 9-year-old girl to be shot in Houston within a week. Ashanti Grant remains hospitalized after being shot in the head during a road rage attack Feb. 8. In Monday’s shooting, the man and his wife were at the ATM at around 9:45 p.m. when another man walked up to their vehicle and robbed them at gunpoint, Slinkard said. As the suspect fled on foot, the man got out of his vehicle and opened fire, including at a pickup truck he thought the robbery suspect had climbed into, police said. But the truck carrying a family of five was not involved and had been “simply driving” down a street near the ATM, Slinkard said."

On one hand, you would want a man to be able to defend himself, his family and his property from criminals..so he had every right to go after this guy...however, he made the mistake of shooting at the wrong car...and a little girl got it.... It was an honest mistake, is it not? Sometimes you have collateral damage when there is a war...and there is a war on crime going on right now; this guy was just fighting back....he had to make a split second decision and this accident happened...Should he be charged with murder/manslaughter or no?

If he is ultimately charged with murder, won't this send the wrong message to the rest of us?? For example, you see someone trying to rob a person..and running off with that person's property....you shoot at the robber to try to stop his escape...and one of the bullets hit someone else - why should the law-biding citizen be charged in that scenario??

Bad shot for sure…but DAMN!
These dark people shitholes are becoming more gangsta by the day…Living in a dark people shithole is like living in a video game or Mogadishu these days.
Because, because, because….POVERTY made them do it.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Don't take him seriously. He's just trolling, trying to put 2nd Amendment supporters in a difficult position, assuming they will always support the use of a firearm. Like I said, trolling.

No, I think you folks are not very consistent with your "good guy with a gun" rhetoric....and I notice the pattern

 

[martybegan]

Don't take him seriously. He's just trolling, trying to put 2nd Amendment supporters in a difficult position, assuming they will always support the use of a firearm. Like I said, trolling.

The guy taking the shot fucked up, and should be held responsible

The guy robbing the guy who took the shot forced the shooter into the action, and should be held responsible.

I say felony murder for the robber, and reckless endangerment manslaughter for the victim/shooter.