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CDZ Should the parents of gang members be arrested for accessory to murder, manslaughter and attempted murder?

candycorn

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It is a precedent that isnt going to go well for the citizens of the United States, while millions of diseased illegals are crossing the southern border murdering and raping as they go along.....We the People will be replaced with Taco's and Burrito's...

I doubt you'll be missed.
 

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Timestamps will tell the truth.

So, if it is proven that she sent the "Don't do it" text before the shooting, will you hold her responsible and complicit?

If it's proven that she sent that text AFTER the shooting time, then maybe it means what you want it to mean.

I still don't understand WHY you want to defend any of the Crumbley's?
He's conned himself into believing that guns are harmless.
 

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The parents of the Michigan school shooter have been arrested and charged with manslaughter......the warning they apparently recieved about their child was a scary picture and scary writing...the day the shooting occurred....

Meanwhile...the parent/parents of actual gang members have far more knowledge of their violent children and their activities........up to and including murder, manslaughter.....

Should the parents of gang members be charged with the same crimes as the Michigan school shooter>
Atleast kicked them off welfare......
 

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Short version:

To be guilty as an accomplice, the alleged accomplice has to share the “mens rea” with the primary criminal actor and to have performed some some act (the “actus reus”) in furtherance of that crime.

I don’t know if there’s any evidence that the Crumbley parents were even aware of their son’s murderous thinking. So, if not, it is difficult to believe they could “share” his culpable mental state. They may be guilty of different crimes based on what they did know and what they failed to do. But I’m not sure manslaughter is legitimately on the list.

I do not think they are being charged with being an accomplice, more along the lines of what would happen if you left your gun sitting out and an 3 year old got it and killed someone...they could hold you responsible.

What is damming for the parents is they gave him the gun as a Christmas gift...something that I do not think they could legally do since he was under age and it was a handgun.
 

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Should the parents of gang members be charged with the same crimes as the Michigan school shooter>
That would be great.

But, of course, it would never happen -- for obvious reasons.
 

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Absolutely!

Parents should bare some responsibility for the actions of their offspring for their entire lives.


You know they won't. Different rules for different folks. Based on skin color. That is the nation that democrats have built.
 

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If they bought those gangbangers their guns then yes they should be arrested. Anyone abetting a crime is a criminal.


But they won't be. You know it. Different rules for different folks, based on race.
 

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I doubt you'll be missed.


We will be.

I recall an incident, I wish I could find it. I think it was in a Long Island community, a liberal community has welcomed a lot of immigrants into their community, celebrating their diversity along the way.

At some point, the local hispanic gang was not happy one of it's members was doing gay shit. So they killed him with a machete.


I recall teh one local, saying "This is not who we are here"


And I thought. You don't get to define who you are or what you do. YOu gave up that right, when you invited those people into your community. Now, that IS who you are.


Someday candy, when US white people are a minority, at some point, you are going to be missing US. The America you are building is not going to be a fun place to live.
 

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But they won't be. You know it.
Got any data to support that?

Different rules for different folks, based on race.
That much is true. If Rittenhouse was Black he might well have been shot by the police instead of being ignored. If Aubrey were White and his killers were Black I doubt the case would have been ignored for months.
 

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Got any data to support that?

Sure. EVERYTHING you dems do.


That much is true. If Rittenhouse was Black he might well have been shot by the police instead of being ignored. If Aubrey were White and his killers were Black I doubt the case would have been ignored for months.

If Rittenhouse was black, he would not have even been charged. Because it would not have served the narrative.

God Forbid you lefties let black men know that they are welcome on the Right. Can't have that kind of thinking going on.
 

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Sure. EVERYTHING you dems do.
Didn't think you had anything.


God Forbid you lefties let black men know that they are welcome on the Right. Can't have that kind of thinking going on.
Black men are welcome on the Right? Color me surprised. Can they believe that Black lives matter or does that have to be left at the door? How about voting? Does the Right want to make it easier or harder for Blacks to vote?
 
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Didn't think you had anything.



Black men are welcome on the Right? Color me surprised. Can they believe that Black lives matter or does that have to be left at the door? How about voting? Does the Right want to make it easier or harder for Blacks to vote?

Blqck lives matter is a racist, domestic terrorist group, working with the democrat party, so no, they are not welcome...

So, you think blacks arent
capable of getting an ID to vote?
 

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Blqck lives matter is a racist, domestic terrorist group, working with the democrat party, so no, they are not welcome...
Does the FBI agree?

So, you think blacks arent
capable of getting an ID to vote?
I think when Georgia ended Sunday voting, a tradition in Black Churches, it was not an election integrity issue but voter suppression action.
 

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More facts & accurate info are needed. my understanding is that the school had the parents come days earlier in to ask them to take the boy out of school & they refused. But if the school was that worried why did they not just suspend him. And why did the parents run to the border? once again this will be turned into a political mess instead of looking for answers about why the boy shoot his school mates.
 

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I do not think they are being charged with being an accomplice, more along the lines of what would happen if you left your gun sitting out and an 3 year old got it and killed someone...they could hold you responsible.

What is damming for the parents is they gave him the gun as a Christmas gift...something that I do not think they could legally do since he was under age and it was a handgun.
I agree that they aren’t charged AS “accomplices” necessarily (although I haven’t found a copy of the actual complaint). But they are charged with something, it appears, for the conduct of another (that is, their own conduct resulted in deaths).
 

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The parents of the Michigan school shooter have been arrested and charged with manslaughter......the warning they apparently recieved about their child was a scary picture and scary writing...the day the shooting occurred....

Meanwhile...the parent/parents of actual gang members have far more knowledge of their violent children and their activities........up to and including murder, manslaughter.....

Should the parents of gang members be charged with the same crimes as the Michigan school shooter>
Sometimes.
If you can demonstrate they
encouraged the behaviors;
made no attempts to correct the behaviors;
aided the criminal after the crime;and
provided the weapons.

I'm sure there are a few that fit this but, overwhelmingly, I'm sure parents of gang members would try to get their kids out of the gangs and away from the life.

You'd like to make this a race thing, or a gun thing, but, in truth, it is a tragedy bought on by horrible parenting, MAGA disinformation, and a blooming culture of violence in MAGA-Land.
 

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Children shouldn't be voting until 25 to 30 either
I’d back that 25 age limit to vote, but 30 could be a stretch;) Can you envision the public response even trying to up it to 19? We’re stuck with 18 as the legal designation for adult status- some deserve it, some don’t. Easy to judge by their words, actions and follow-through of lack of…
 

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More facts & accurate info are needed. my understanding is that the school had the parents come days earlier in to ask them to take the boy out of school & they refused. But if the school was that worried why did they not just suspend him. And why did the parents run to the border? once again this will be turned into a political mess instead of looking for answers about why the boy shoot his school mates.
Bingo- my stoic husband stated the same thing about suspending him. It was two days of “evidence” not just one that others- a teacher who reported the drawing and different teacher saw his ammo search? Secondary schools are not usually so lax about cell phone policies during school hours, at least where I live. Even when searching for fashion tips it’s not conducive to learning. So, the school shares responsibility by not suspending him and had my child been brutally massacred, that fact would not be out of the equation.

Reportedly, the school blamed the parents for not taking him home with them, following that second meeting the day of the shooting, but I agree with you Sartre that the school should’ve suspended him from school immediately with security escorting him out.

Potential parent responsibility will be determined in court regarding any “pre-knowledge” they didn’t disclose to school during the 2 back-to-back meetings with school officials. Because they were at the school when the gun was in their son’s backpack (without their knowledge presumably) but had knowledge the dad had just purchased a gun for the son who’d drawn pictures of acting out a gun scenario, why didn’t one of them mention this after seeing the drawings and reading the words- help me? This should have been prevented had his locker/backpack been checked. I have little doubt the school officials and his parents have had little sleep since that horrendous day.
 
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Sometimes.
If you can demonstrate they
encouraged the behaviors;
made no attempts to correct the behaviors;
aided the criminal after the crime;and
provided the weapons.

I'm sure there are a few that fit this but, overwhelmingly, I'm sure parents of gang members would try to get their kids out of the gangs and away from the life.

You'd like to make this a race thing, or a gun thing, but, in truth, it is a tragedy bought on by horrible parenting, MAGA disinformation, and a blooming culture of violence in MAGA-Land.


Nope.......the left makes it a race thing.......every time.....they ignore a black teenager shooting people, a black, blm racist running people over, then they lie and falsely report about events if the accused is white........

They made the rules, not me....

How do you know what kind of parenting it was?

You guys keep saying that without any information to go on.......
 

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