Should The Elgin Marbles be returned to Greece?

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

The EU will tell Britain to give back the ancient Parthenon marbles taken from Greece over 200 years ago in a post-Brexit trade deal.

The EU will tell Britain to give back the ancient Parthenon marbles taken from Greece over 200 years ago in a post-Brexit trade deal

not sure about it, Parthenon marbles belongs to entire European civilization , in the same time Muscovite Asiatic barbarians ´d return to all stolen cultural treasures to Belarus


For the restitution is necessary to achieve recognition, that Belarus was a colony of the "russian"

Belorussians are idiots with bone in brain.

 

[OldLady]

The marbles belong to Greece, but maybe Greece could agree to them being "on loan" to the London museum?
Those marbles are kind of pathetic looking, anyway, without their heads. Yes, the sculpting is phenomenal, but they're broken bad.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

With decisions this petty and punitive, it doesn't really appear to be Greece that has lost its marbles.

 

[Mindful]

Some back stories from National Geographic coming up:

Since the 15th century, Greece had been ruled by the Ottoman Empire, whose troops had converted the Acropolis into a garrison, and whose sultan, Mehmed II, had turned the Parthenon itself into a mosque, complete with a minaret.

 

[Thunk]

Are you saying that Greece has lost its marbles?

 

[Yarddog]

If the Elgin Marbles go, the Hamilton Jacks must stay...

i was waiting for this!

 

[Mindful]

Parthenon in Peril.

By the middle of the 18th century yet more of the ruined Parthenon’s decoration had been plundered. The site’s precariousness only encouraged travelers to carry off items, as many believed it would be razed to the ground before long anyway. “It is to be regretted that so much admirable sculpture as is still extant about this fabric should be all likely to perish ... from ignorant contempt and brutal violence” warned Richard Chandler, an English antiquarian, in 1770. A few years later, the Irish painter Edward Dodwell reported that huge quantities of marble from the Parthenon had been broken up in order to build cabins for a garrison. On hearing about the situation, many western travelers and collectors sought to acquire treasures pillaged from the Parthenon on the local black market in an attempt to “save” them from destruction.

Some collectors claimed this was perfectly legal, as they removed items with the connivance of the Ottoman authorities. Many collections of Parthenon statuary housed in the world’s museums today were acquired in this way. The most famous and significant was brought to London beginning in 1803 by the former British ambassador to the Ottoman Empire, the nobleman Thomas Bruce—more commonly known as Lord Elgin.

National Geographic.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

We should return them. They were stolen.

 

[Mindful]

We should return them. They were stolen.

Hate England forever!

 

[Tommy Tainant]

We should return them. They were stolen.

Hate England forever!

Not at all. We should demand that countries who have stolen our shit should give it back.

 

[Litwin]

The EU will tell Britain to give back the ancient Parthenon marbles taken from Greece over 200 years ago in a post-Brexit trade deal.

The EU will tell Britain to give back the ancient Parthenon marbles taken from Greece over 200 years ago in a post-Brexit trade deal

not sure about it, Parthenon marbles belongs to entire European civilization , in the same time Muscovite Asiatic barbarians ´d return to all stolen cultural treasures to Belarus


For the restitution is necessary to achieve recognition, that Belarus was a colony of the "russian"

Belorussians are idiots with bone in brain.

you cam call them as you want , but full restitution is just matter of time . do you understand it ?

 

[boedicca]

No. The UK preserved the Elgin marbles, which would have likely been looted or destroyed if left in place. The UK honored them and deserved to keep them.

And if you haven't seen them in person, it's well worth a visit - they are fabulous!

 

[Litwin]

We should return them. They were stolen.

return to who ? to Orthodox Turks? do you understand that UK is much closer to Athene republic than oriental Greece ?

 

[JoeB131]

Nothing to do with it. It's a separate argument/issue.

And Greece right now is hardly in a position to lay down the law.

They are if the European Union backs them.

Really, far past time the British Empire started making amends for all it's misdeeds around the world.

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

The EU will tell Britain to give back the ancient Parthenon marbles taken from Greece over 200 years ago in a post-Brexit trade deal.

The EU will tell Britain to give back the ancient Parthenon marbles taken from Greece over 200 years ago in a post-Brexit trade deal

not sure about it, Parthenon marbles belongs to entire European civilization , in the same time Muscovite Asiatic barbarians ´d return to all stolen cultural treasures to Belarus


For the restitution is necessary to achieve recognition, that Belarus was a colony of the "russian"

Belorussians are idiots with bone in brain.

you cam call them as you want , but full restitution is just matter of time . do you understand it ?

You will get a handful of your own shit.

 

[Mindful]

Nothing to do with it. It's a separate argument/issue.

And Greece right now is hardly in a position to lay down the law.

They are if the European Union backs them.

Really, far past time the British Empire started making amends for all it's misdeeds around the world.

It founded you, didn't it? One of its misdeeds?

 

[Mindful]

 

[JoeB131]

It founded you, didn't it? One of its misdeeds?

Absolutely. Slavery and Native American Genocide. We need to atone for that.

But simple steps first. Let's return all the looted art treasures.

 

[Mindful]

It founded you, didn't it? One of its misdeeds?

Absolutely. Slavery and Native American Genocide. We need to atone for that.

But simple steps first. Let's return all the looted art treasures.

Let's not.

The issue is the EU bringing in conditions, when it's nothing to do with them.

 

[JoeB131]

Let's not.

The issue is the EU bringing in conditions, when it's nothing to do with them.

The UK stole those treasures from Greece.

Greece is a member of the EU.