Should President Obama Suspend Military Aide to Israel?

Should President Obama Suspend Military Aide to Israel?


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Don't you see?

Only THEY (the Palestinian civilians) have the power to make this all stop by denouncing Hamas.

That's not a fact. That's a contention.

The fact of the matter is that weapons we provided Israel are being used to engage in what amounts to essentially the indiscriminate killing of civilians not involved in the fighting. The American policy of moral engagement and our call for the respect and dignity of civilians in a war zone looks like empty rhetoric if our gov't refuses to use its influence over Israel (which IS considerable) to try to force them to stop the killing. This perceived hypocrisy can't help but breed more anti-American sentiment and possibly even terrorism directed at Americans and American economic interests both in the region and elsewhere.

That doesn't seem very smart to me.
You are a libtard, smart is not in your vocabulary. Israel is the only country we need to give money and ammo to to defeat the satan worshipers and kick them out of Israel.

Actually, Muslims revere Jesus as a prophet of God. However, the Jews (supposedly God's chosen people) reject the central Christian tenet that Jesus is the son of God. I think it's safe to say that any group that reveres Jesus as a prophet is not a Satan worshiper. But what does the New Testament say about those who reject Jesus?
 
That's not a fact. That's a contention.

The fact of the matter is that weapons we provided Israel are being used to engage in what amounts to essentially the indiscriminate killing of civilians not involved in the fighting. The American policy of moral engagement and our call for the respect and dignity of civilians in a war zone looks like empty rhetoric if our gov't refuses to use its influence over Israel (which IS considerable) to try to force them to stop the killing. This perceived hypocrisy can't help but breed more anti-American sentiment and possibly even terrorism directed at Americans and American economic interests both in the region and elsewhere.

That doesn't seem very smart to me.
You are a libtard, smart is not in your vocabulary. Israel is the only country we need to give money and ammo to to defeat the satan worshipers and kick them out of Israel.

Then why don't they kick them out instead of engaging in genocide?

The optics are getting worse every day for Israel as the kill numbers on both sides become more distorted. These so-called Hamas-staged bombings of hospitals and schools becomes harder and harder to believe.

The press inside the lines are increasingly saying these attacks are NOT coming from inside Gaza. Oh, that must be the ******* liberal media again...Uh huh.
You got it, libtard media lying and you believe them. The attacks are coming from inside gaza, where else. Kick the satan worshipers out of israel.
 
When the count is 1000 Palestinians dead vs 50 Israel soldiers dead.

You cant really contintue to say its just "Israel defending itself". Thats like someone kills your friend and in response you level their entire block

Really? What exactly does the "count" have to be in order for us to say Israel isn't the aggressor?
 
No, but if the UN wants to do something against Israel for appropriating land in the west bank, I think we should abstain, sit back and let the thing shake out.
 
I think it is interesting that all the moderates who have responded have said no.
That's where the true majority is ... so I don't think this little experiment has come out too well for the anti-Israel folks.
 
That's not a fact. That's a contention.

The fact of the matter is that weapons we provided Israel are being used to engage in what amounts to essentially the indiscriminate killing of civilians not involved in the fighting. The American policy of moral engagement and our call for the respect and dignity of civilians in a war zone looks like empty rhetoric if our gov't refuses to use its influence over Israel (which IS considerable) to try to force them to stop the killing. This perceived hypocrisy can't help but breed more anti-American sentiment and possibly even terrorism directed at Americans and American economic interests both in the region and elsewhere.

That doesn't seem very smart to me.
You are a libtard, smart is not in your vocabulary. Israel is the only country we need to give money and ammo to to defeat the satan worshipers and kick them out of Israel.

Actually, Muslims revere Jesus as a prophet of God. However, the Jews (supposedly God's chosen people) reject the central Christian tenet that Jesus is the son of God. I think it's safe to say that any group that reveres Jesus as a prophet is not a Satan worshiper. But what does the New Testament say about those who reject Jesus?
If you knew anything about the Bible and what Jesus said you would defend Israel. Don't use God's word to defend satan worshipers, it won't go well with you. Allaah=satan.
 
Hamas is the aggressor and terrorist group. Stop funding them.

You don't think the Palestinian civilians are being terrorized by widespread Israeli military assaults on their homes, schools, and markets?

Notice they just run from that question. They just dig their pointy little heels in and see the things they want to see.

All I can say is that it makes a mockery out of a claim to be principled conservative when you support an action which violates your stated principles.
 
No. As long as Hamas acts like terrorists they deserve to be treated like terrorists.
 
When the count is 1000 Palestinians dead vs 50 Israel soldiers dead.

You cant really contintue to say its just "Israel defending itself". Thats like someone kills your friend and in response you level their entire block

Really? What exactly does the "count" have to be in order for us to say Israel isn't the aggressor?

I think you misread my post. By the numbers it seems that Israel is the aggressor
 
That's not a fact. That's a contention.

The fact of the matter is that weapons we provided Israel are being used to engage in what amounts to essentially the indiscriminate killing of civilians not involved in the fighting. The American policy of moral engagement and our call for the respect and dignity of civilians in a war zone looks like empty rhetoric if our gov't refuses to use its influence over Israel (which IS considerable) to try to force them to stop the killing. This perceived hypocrisy can't help but breed more anti-American sentiment and possibly even terrorism directed at Americans and American economic interests both in the region and elsewhere.

That doesn't seem very smart to me.
You are a libtard, smart is not in your vocabulary. Israel is the only country we need to give money and ammo to to defeat the satan worshipers and kick them out of Israel.

Actually, Muslims revere Jesus as a prophet of God. However, the Jews (supposedly God's chosen people) reject the central Christian tenet that Jesus is the son of God. I think it's safe to say that any group that reveres Jesus as a prophet is not a Satan worshiper. But what does the New Testament say about those who reject Jesus?

You'll not get an intelligent, learned response to this one, either.

Israel should at least make a public statement to the world that they are willing to get women and children out of the war zone and if the Palestinians don't accept it then so be it, but the offer should be made. It's looking like sheer genocide from here.
 
You don't think the Palestinian civilians are being terrorized by widespread Israeli military assaults on their homes, schools, and markets?

Notice they just run from that question. They just dig their pointy little heels in and see the things they want to see.

All I can say is that it makes a mockery out of a claim to be principled conservative when you support an action which violates your stated principles.
Worse is a POTUS that says one thing and does the completely opposite like the embarrasment in office now. I am a strong conservative and believe in Israel defending itself. Go Israel.
 
I'm not in any of the OP's catagories.

I would significantly increase military aid to Israel and assist them with their blockade of Gaza, as well as survielance of the region to help find tunnels and bomb UN run munition storages.

Of course I'd throw the UN off of our soil as well.

People keep saying they want this conflict to end...

The only way it will EVER end is when islamic radicals are either all dead, or surrender unconditionally.

End of story.




 
You don't think the Palestinian civilians are being terrorized by widespread Israeli military assaults on their homes, schools, and markets?

Notice they just run from that question. They just dig their pointy little heels in and see the things they want to see.
I won't run. Probably, the palestinians need to kick all terrorist out of Israel learn to live in someones else's country in peace.

Kicking someone out is different than killing them.

 
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Notice they just run from that question. They just dig their pointy little heels in and see the things they want to see.

All I can say is that it makes a mockery out of a claim to be principled conservative when you support an action which violates your stated principles.
Worse is a POTUS that says one thing and does the completely opposite like the embarrasment in office now. I am a strong conservative and believe in Israel defending itself. Go Israel.

Then you put your money where your pie hole is and stop sending them mine.

I bet you're against all other foreign aid, even to countries that are not waging war.

What about using that money to build our infrastructure instead of subsidizing a problem that just isn't ******* OURS?
 
I'm not in any of the OP's catagories.

I would significantly increase military aid to Israel and assist them with their blockade of Gaza, as well as survielance of the region to help find tunnels and bomb UN run munition storages.

Of course I'd throw the UN off of our soil as well.

People keep saying they want this conflict to end...

The only way it will EVER end is when islamic radicals are either all dead, or surrender unconditionally.

End of story.




Yep.
 
I'm not in any of the OP's catagories.

I would significantly increase military aid to Israel and assist them with their blockade of Gaza, as well as survielance of the region to help find tunnels and bomb UN run munition storages.

Of course I'd throw the UN off of our soil as well.

People keep saying they want this conflict to end...

The only way it will EVER end is when islamic radicals are either all dead, or surrender unconditionally.

End of story.




Yep.

Two idiots walk into a bar....
 
dont you love the tough stance a tiny and easily destroyed nation like Israel takes? Wow. pride cometh before the fall as it always has to them. i mean what would it take? one big dirty bomb and you loose your holy land. They could strap it to a dead soldier or hollow out his body and you 'll go grab it and bring it back home for them. I'm telling you these things as a friend. please believe me. you and your enemies are too big to fight in God's holy land or this planet for that matter. Grow up all of both of you idiotic heat stroked brains fighting for ions. You all end up in hell and all us too for not stopping you false zealots of a still lost tribe. the levites will punish you for your hypocracy if you keep this crap up of slaughtering women and children. for land or in God's name.
 
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