Should McConnell invoke the "nuke option" on behalf of Gorsuch?

[Billy_Kinetta]

Not at all, because the Electoral College system was agreed to in signing the Constitution, and prevents all measure of mischief.

You know the drill. Change it through amendment.

Of course, I actually agree.....It should be remembered that....as the ancient Greeks would contend......a simple majority within a democracy may lead to "mob-acracy"

That is correct, not in the case of a deliberative, representative body.

 

[2aguy]

Yes, and the voters agreed with him. Trump has done more good for this country in 2 months than Obama and Bush did in 16 years. In case you missed it, I am not a Bushie.

"True"...Trump has now allowed mentally unstable people to purchase any gun they may wish.....One of Trump's STELLAR achievements.....LOL

And that is a lie....moron...you are a left wing asshole.....but you show that with every post.

 

[whitehall]

Democrats invented the "nuke option". How did it work for them?

 

[2aguy]

The GOP establishment hacks love to get kicked in the groin by Dem's so I say McConnell is likely to bend over and let Schumer knee him repeatedly. Dem's never reciprocate these gestures from the GOP, first chance they get Dem's shit all over the GOP but the GOP is too stupid to learn.

Exactly....my point exactly.....the Republicans keep treating democrats as if the democrats are fair players in congress....and this isn't even close to being true...as I pointed out, lindsey graham, john mccain and other repupublican morons will vote for any anti-AMerican judge the democrats put forward because that is just what you do.......and then the democrats will return that courtesy by calling every single Republican nominee racist, homophobe and then block them as being unfit.......

I am sick and tired of the mccains and the other Rinos...or as I will now call them, the Republican members of the democrat party stabbing conservatives/libertarians/tea party members in the back, attacking them and ridiculing them as they "reach across the aisle" to every anti-American, left wing socialist democrat.....

The filibuster only applies for democrats since the Republican members of the democrat party will allow any left wing activist in robes nominated by a democrat party to go to the Supreme Court..where they will promptly destroy every aspect of the Bill of Rights with their rulings......

 

[2aguy]

51 is a majority, plain and simple.

Since you like "majority" so much, would then THREE million more AGAINST Trump give you some pause???

Not when they are illegal alien votes and voter fraud conducted by bob craemer, and scot foval under orders of the democrat national committee and the hilary campaign...

 

[EvilCat Breath]

51 is a majority, plain and simple.

Since you like "majority" so much, would then THREE million more AGAINST Trump give you some pause???

No. Three million came from California. No one wants California controlling the nation

 

[BluesLegend]

The GOP establishment hacks love to get kicked in the groin by Dem's so I say McConnell is likely to bend over and let Schumer knee him repeatedly. Dem's never reciprocate these gestures from the GOP, first chance they get Dem's shit all over the GOP but the GOP is too stupid to learn.

Exactly....my point exactly.....the Republicans keep treating democrats as if the democrats are fair players in congress....and this isn't even close to being true...as I pointed out, lindsey graham, john mccain and other repupublican morons will vote for any anti-AMerican judge the democrats put forward because that is just what you do.......and then the democrats will return that courtesy by calling every single Republican nominee racist, homophobe and then block them as being unfit.......

I am sick and tired of the mccains and the other Rinos...or as I will now call them, the Republican members of the democrat party stabbing conservatives/libertarians/tea party members in the back, attacking them and ridiculing them as they "reach across the aisle" to every anti-American, left wing socialist democrat.....

The filibuster only applies for democrats since the Republican members of the democrat party will allow any left wing activist in robes nominated by a democrat party to go to the Supreme Court..where they will promptly destroy every aspect of the Bill of Rights with their rulings......

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

I'm not sure this is the hill the Democrats need to die on. Gorsuch is probably the best justice you are going to get out of this administration.

The fact is, all nominating Gorsuch does is return the court to its pre-Scalia's death status of 4-1-4. Probably best to let this one slide and then fight him tooth and nail on the next one, perhaps after the 2018 midterms when things are more favorable.

You're probably correct on that score but it still shouldn't be easy for the obstructionists of the GOP. Let them have Gorsuch after 411 days have passed with him in limbo then let him go IF trump is still in the WH. He should wait LONGER than Merrick Garland waited with NO ACTION. If trump is gone before then let the process start over again.

 

[Doc1]

Yup, Schumer can kiss our asses.

 

[Care4all]

Democrats invented the "nuke option". How did it work for them?

No, the Dem's didn't invent it whitehall, Majority leader Senator Frist threatened to use the nuclear option under Bush 2...I believe it was invented then.... it was not used then, it was threatened to be used, but it was invented then....again I believe.

 

[Auld Phart]

Democrats invented the "nuke option". How did it work for them?

No, the Dem's didn't invent it whitehall, Majority leader Senator Frist threatened to use the nuclear option under Bush 2...I believe it was invented then.... it was not used then, it was threatened to be used, but it was invented then....again I believe.

Bit farther back than that:

Nuclear option - Wikipedia

"In 1917, a threat to use what is now known as the nuclear option resulted in reform of the Senate's filibuster rules. An opinion written by Vice President Richard Nixon in 1957 concluded that the U.S. Constitution grants the presiding officer the authority to override Senate rules"

 

[nat4900]

Yes, and the voters agreed with him. Trump has done more good for this country in 2 months than Obama and Bush did in 16 years. In case you missed it, I am not a Bushie.

"True"...Trump has now allowed mentally unstable people to purchase any gun they may wish.....One of Trump's STELLAR achievements.....LOL

And that is a lie....moron...you are a left wing asshole.....but you show that with every post.

Well, sorry, 2braincells

Trump Set to Overturn a Mental Health Regulation on Gun Purchases

Trump Signs Bill Allowing Mentally Ill to Buy Guns - Medscape

Congress Says, Let the Mentally Ill Buy Guns - The New York Times

 

[nat4900]

No. Three million came from California. No one wants California controlling the nation

Well, nitwit, check out how Clinton won her states....the 3 million didn't just come from CA alone.....She got an extra million votes from such states as NY, Illinois, Mass. NJ....

But, please don't let facts get in the way of your delusions....after all, you should follow your Trumpster's example.

Trump v. Clinton: What the popular vote in each state shows

 

[OKTexas]

What in Rule 19?

The nitwit, OKTX wants to bring out Rule 19?????

here it is: (Hallowed Senate Floor???>>>>LOL)

Rule 19, is a century-old rule prohibiting senators from insulting each other on the hallowed Senate floor.

Maybe you try reading the whole rule and not just section 2.

 

[Auld Phart]

What in Rule 19?

The nitwit, OKTX wants to bring out Rule 19?????

here it is: (Hallowed Senate Floor???>>>>LOL)

Rule 19, is a century-old rule prohibiting senators from insulting each other on the hallowed Senate floor.

Maybe you try reading the whole rule and not just section 2.

and ruin his perfect record?

 

[brummelben]

Assume nothing, jackass. There were about 50 judicial openings when Obama took office, now there are about 110. When the republicans took control of the senate, they refused to vote on post every nomination

I don't think that was right, just as I don't think what Schumer and the dims are doing is right. The interests of the country should come first, not the party. They are both guilty.

Trump is the most non-partisan president we have had in decades and the stupid dims are trying to turn him into a partisan. Amazingly stupid.

Non partisan?? 5 years of birther BS ?? Obama tapping him??? Non partisan??

he doesn't like Obama because Obama was a shitty president, a liar, and a fraud. He also dislikes McCain for some of the same reasons. Its not partisan, its personal.

And as you so conveniently forgot he bad mouthed GWB all through the campaign and debates along with jeb

Yes, and the voters agreed with him. Trump has done more good for this country in 2 months than Obama and Bush did in 16 years. In case you missed it, I am not a Bushie.

Maybe you can take a moment a list the good he has done- not everything, just the high points

 

[brummelben]

Why was allowing the next president the right thing to do?
Trump is making himself a one term president, if he lasts that long, all by himself

because SC justices serve for life. appointing one in the last year of a presidential term is the wrong thing to do. And if Obama's guy had come to a vote, he would have not been confirmed. This is a non issue.

Bullshyte, a non issue. Never before had a SC judge not been voted on in a presidents last year. If you are so sure that he wouldn't have been confirmed, why didn't the senate have the balls to vote? You wonder why our politics are so convoluted? I GUARANTEE if the roles had been reversed and it was a Bush appointee you would not stop screaming if he wasn't voted on, so spare me the BS

because they are scared shitless of what the media would have said about them. Shouldn't be that way, but it is.

The GOP had the numbers to stop Obama's nominee, just as the dems had the numbers to ram obamacare up our collective asses. That's the way it works.

And you had the numbers to cause obamacare to disappear

I had numbers? You give me too much credit. Obamacare will disappear, now as a result of self destruction rather than repeal. A political win for the GOP. A disaster for the American people as the worst legislation in history self destructs.

Ryan and the pubs could have replaced it with something that would actually work and reduce costs, they blew it. It will cost some of them their jobs in the next election.

Do you some concrete proof or evidence that the ACA is going to disappear, other than right wing lies?

 

[OKTexas]

because SC justices serve for life. appointing one in the last year of a presidential term is the wrong thing to do. And if Obama's guy had come to a vote, he would have not been confirmed. This is a non issue.

Bullshyte, a non issue. Never before had a SC judge not been voted on in a presidents last year. If you are so sure that he wouldn't have been confirmed, why didn't the senate have the balls to vote? You wonder why our politics are so convoluted? I GUARANTEE if the roles had been reversed and it was a Bush appointee you would not stop screaming if he wasn't voted on, so spare me the BS

because they are scared shitless of what the media would have said about them. Shouldn't be that way, but it is.

The GOP had the numbers to stop Obama's nominee, just as the dems had the numbers to ram obamacare up our collective asses. That's the way it works.

And you had the numbers to cause obamacare to disappear

I had numbers? You give me too much credit. Obamacare will disappear, now as a result of self destruction rather than repeal. A political win for the GOP. A disaster for the American people as the worst legislation in history self destructs.

Ryan and the pubs could have replaced it with something that would actually work and reduce costs, they blew it. It will cost some of them their jobs in the next election.

Do you some concrete proof or evidence that the ACA is going to disappear, other than right wing lies?

"Do you some concrete", how can anyone argue with the high intellect that could utter a phrase like that? LMAO

 

[Doc1]

Bullshyte, a non issue. Never before had a SC judge not been voted on in a presidents last year. If you are so sure that he wouldn't have been confirmed, why didn't the senate have the balls to vote? You wonder why our politics are so convoluted? I GUARANTEE if the roles had been reversed and it was a Bush appointee you would not stop screaming if he wasn't voted on, so spare me the BS

because they are scared shitless of what the media would have said about them. Shouldn't be that way, but it is.

The GOP had the numbers to stop Obama's nominee, just as the dems had the numbers to ram obamacare up our collective asses. That's the way it works.

And you had the numbers to cause obamacare to disappear

I had numbers? You give me too much credit. Obamacare will disappear, now as a result of self destruction rather than repeal. A political win for the GOP. A disaster for the American people as the worst legislation in history self destructs.

Ryan and the pubs could have replaced it with something that would actually work and reduce costs, they blew it. It will cost some of them their jobs in the next election.

Do you some concrete proof or evidence that the ACA is going to disappear, other than right wing lies?

"Do you some concrete", how can anyone argue with the high intellect that could utter a phrase like that? LMAO

BrumbleBee provides a lot of entertainment here, a typo should be overlooked.

 

[Borillar]

I'm not sure this is the hill the Democrats need to die on. Gorsuch is probably the best justice you are going to get out of this administration.

The fact is, all nominating Gorsuch does is return the court to its pre-Scalia's death status of 4-1-4. Probably best to let this one slide and then fight him tooth and nail on the next one, perhaps after the 2018 midterms when things are more favorable.

Fully agree........Gorsuch may turn out to be just another Kennedy or even Roberts and render decisions that may actually surprise (unpleasantly) arch conservatives ...

However, the NEXT possible nomination must be fought....and fought hard.

Nonetheless, as it currently stands, Schumer has vowed to filibuster Gorsuch's approval.

schumer is a hypocrite, he voted to confirm Gorsuch the first time.

Maybe he has seen the error in doing so.