Should Israel separate Church and State?

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Some people say Israel is a Jewish state, which gives some special privileges to ethnic Jewish people. Others say Israel is a theocratic republic. While some people say Israel has evolved from democracy to theocracy. And others have said Israel is a benevolent autocratic, religious dictatorship.

But whatever one chooses to believe about the form of Israel's government, it cannot be denied that Israel does not separate Church and state.

Given that less than a 1/3 of Israelis self identify as religious, should Israel separate church and state?

 

[progressive hunter]

Some people say Israel is a Jewish state, which gives some special privileges to ethnic Jewish people. Others say Israel is a theocratic republic. While some people say Israel has evolved from democracy to theocracy. And others have said Israel is a benevolent autocratic, religious dictatorship.

But whatever one chooses to believe about the form of Israel's government, it cannot be denied that Israel does not separate Church and state.

Given that less than a 1/3 of Israelis self identify as religious, should Israel separate church and state?

we didnt so why should they???

none of our business anyway,,,

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

That's up to Israel.

 

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That's up to Israel.

Yes, it is their decision to make, but do you have an opinion or recommendation?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

That's up to Israel.

Yes, it is their decision to make, but do you have an opinion or recommendation?

None at all.

 

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Some people say Israel is a Jewish state, which gives some special privileges to ethnic Jewish people. Others say Israel is a theocratic republic. While some people say Israel has evolved from democracy to theocracy. And others have said Israel is a benevolent autocratic, religious dictatorship.

But whatever one chooses to believe about the form of Israel's government, it cannot be denied that Israel does not separate Church and state.

Given that less than a 1/3 of Israelis self identify as religious, should Israel separate church and state?

we didnt so why should they???

none of our business anyway,,,

We are providing military aid to them, so in that regard that decision is our business, right?

But putting that aside, if it were our business, do you believe they should separate Church and state?

 

[DOTR]

I think they fine as they are.

 

[LeftofLeft]

I’ve been to Israel many times. While it is a Jewish State, it is the most tolerant of all religions in the Middle East.

I wish the US had been founded as a Christian State while tolerant of all other religions and non-Christians. Christians founded the US and focused on tolerance and no state religion yet that is not good enough for the modern day Leftists and anarchists.

 

[progressive hunter]

Some people say Israel is a Jewish state, which gives some special privileges to ethnic Jewish people. Others say Israel is a theocratic republic. While some people say Israel has evolved from democracy to theocracy. And others have said Israel is a benevolent autocratic, religious dictatorship.

But whatever one chooses to believe about the form of Israel's government, it cannot be denied that Israel does not separate Church and state.

Given that less than a 1/3 of Israelis self identify as religious, should Israel separate church and state?

we didnt so why should they???

none of our business anyway,,,

We are providing military aid to them, so in that regard that decision is our business, right?

But putting that aside, if it were our business, do you believe they should separate Church and state?

why would we ask them to do something we didnt do???

 

[Dogmaphobe]

What you are really asking is "Should Israel remain the way it is?"

There is a vast difference between what low IQ bigots SAY it is and what it actually is.

 

[Augustine_]

I would be fine with Israel doing whatever they wanted if only the U.S. would withdraw its fealty

 

[rylah]

Some people say Israel is a Jewish state, which gives some special privileges to ethnic Jewish people. Others say Israel is a theocratic republic. While some people say Israel has evolved from democracy to theocracy. And others have said Israel is a benevolent autocratic, religious dictatorship.

But whatever one chooses to believe about the form of Israel's government, it cannot be denied that Israel does not separate Church and state.

Given that less than a 1/3 of Israelis self identify as religious, should Israel separate church and state?

The question assumes many false premises.
You seem to be more into what people say, rather than facts.

When you see the Sanhedrin court on the Temple Mount,
or a priestly dynasty assuming rule - then you can talk about theocracy.

But what the trend essentially is, in reality, a transformation from a socialist built state,
to a parliamentary monarchy.

Democracy is integral to all of them.

 

[rylah]

The misunderstanding starts at the point when trying to define distinct cultures by western terms.
It's pretty much like when they say - the best Torah translation, is at best a treason.

'Religion' - how many times does that word even appear in Torah?

The diaspora defines Judaism as religion, not Judaism.
When Mosheh Rabbenu A"H talked to Pharaoh, what did he request?
Let his people go for what? To make sacrifice offerings to the G-d of Israel.

What did he tell Israel? That we're gonna get the Torah, for what specifically then?
Become a religion, and separate our ways to every country on earth?
Or did he talk about political independence in a country?

Pharaoh played a god, and Egypt was ruled by magicians,
so Mosheh Rabbenu played a role of a magician, to them,
because that's how THEY DEFINED it.

But for Israel he was first and foremost a political figure.
Pretty much all Israel's prophets are political figures.

In Israel, holiness is expressed through religion, as well...there's hollistic unity, politics are integral part of human experience, through which holliness is expressed to no lesser extent than prayer or sex.

 

[rylah]

CBS data in Israel:

• As of end of 2016, 75% are Jews, 20% Arabs, 5% other.
• Among the Jews, about 45% defined as secular, about 25% - traditional, about 16% - very religious and religious, and 14% -Orthodox.
• The total population of Israel is expected to reach 20.0 million by 2065. The major change expected to occur is an increase in the proportion of the Orthodox population from 11% today to 32% in 2065
  
  

  אוכלוסיית ישראל לפי דת והגדרה עצמית של מידת דתיות: נתונים נבחרים מתוך דוח פני החברה מס' 10

  www.cbs.gov.il

 

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Most Israelis want separation of religion and state – poll

Polls show that religious tension in Israel is more severe than political and ethnic tension among Jewish Israelis.

www.jpost.com

"74% of Jewish Israelis oppose the government's policies in regards to religion and state, Hiddush – For Religious Freedom and Equality claimed in a press release last Thursday.


According to the 2019 Religion-and-State Index published by Hiddush, more than 60% of Jewish Israelis believe that the three major branches of Judaism (Orthodox, Conservative and Reform) should have an equal legal status in Israel. This majority opinion, Hiddush says, is the same as it was in 2009.

According to the report, nearly 70% of Israelis believe that issues such as public transportation on Saturdays and the opening of businesses on Jewish holidays should be controlled by local authorities, rather than the central government. This position is backed by 59% of Likud voters..."

 

[ESay]

But what the trend essentially is, in reality, a transformation from a socialist built state,
to a parliamentary monarchy

What for? And who will be a king?

 

[fncceo]

Some people say Israel is a Jewish state, which gives some special privileges to ethnic Jewish people. Others say Israel is a theocratic republic. While some people say Israel has evolved from democracy to theocracy. And others have said Israel is a benevolent autocratic, religious dictatorship.

But whatever one chooses to believe about the form of Israel's government, it cannot be denied that Israel does not separate Church and state.

Given that less than a 1/3 of Israelis self identify as religious, should Israel separate church and state?

Why do you give a fetid dingo's kidney what Israelis do? Do you live there?

 

[rylah]

Most Israelis want separation of religion and state – poll

Polls show that religious tension in Israel is more severe than political and ethnic tension among Jewish Israelis.

www.jpost.com

"74% of Jewish Israelis oppose the government's policies in regards to religion and state, Hiddush – For Religious Freedom and Equality claimed in a press release last Thursday.


According to the 2019 Religion-and-State Index published by Hiddush, more than 60% of Jewish Israelis believe that the three major branches of Judaism (Orthodox, Conservative and Reform) should have an equal legal status in Israel. This majority opinion, Hiddush says, is the same as it was in 2009.

According to the report, nearly 70% of Israelis believe that issues such as public transportation on Saturdays and the opening of businesses on Jewish holidays should be controlled by local authorities, rather than the central government. This position is backed by 59% of Likud voters..."

It's a poll for an election day,
done by the reform movement.

They've been trying for years to make Israel into New Jersey,
but Israelis are largely coming from traditional homes, with grandparents speaking Arabic.

You really have no idea about Israel.

 

[rylah]

What for? And who will be a king?

Natural development of our prayers for the last 2000 years.
To correct the world, to fulfill our national potential.
Ben Yishay.

 

[rylah]

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