Should Israel repair the Temple.

[TNHarley]

1300 years or so isnt historic?

LOL Islam didn't exist prior to about 700 years ago so ? how are any Islamic structures on the Mount older than that ?

LMAO oh boy.

Woops, you are right. I got the years mixed up.

Shit happens. At least you admit to mistakes!

 

[Indeependent]

Bulldoze the Rock and ban Muslims.
They want a war?
Nuke the fuckers.
If any combination of Arab nations actually believed they could take on Israel, they would have done it already.

 

[TNHarley]

Bulldoze the Rock and ban Muslims.
They want a war?
Nuke the fuckers.
If any combination of Arab nations actually believed they could take on Israel, they would have done it already.

They probably know we americans are israels bitch.

 

[montelatici]

Bulldoze the Rock and ban Muslims.
They want a war?
Nuke the fuckers.
If any combination of Arab nations actually believed they could take on Israel, they would have done it already.

You are a hoot. Without the British and the Americans the colonization of Palestine would not have taken place. By the way, who are you people planning to nuke?

 

[Boston1]

The idea is that it would accomplish two major positive actions at once. Two birds with one stone so to speak.

Eliminate the flashpoint of violence against Israeli's and add to the character of the city and the ancestral lands. If the Muslims are going to throw one fit after another saying Israel is planing on taking the Mount, they might as well do it and be done with all the headaches

 

[Hollie]

Bulldoze the Rock and ban Muslims.
They want a war?
Nuke the fuckers.
If any combination of Arab nations actually believed they could take on Israel, they would have done it already.

You are a hoot. Without the British and the Americans the colonization of Palestine would not have taken place. By the way, who are you people planning to nuke?

The colonization of the geographic area of "Pal'istan" had taken place a number of times. Arabs-Moslems and European Christian Crusaders were just two of the invaders / colonists to have a history there.

You are a hoot.

 

[Indeependent]

Bulldoze the Rock and ban Muslims.
They want a war?
Nuke the fuckers.
If any combination of Arab nations actually believed they could take on Israel, they would have done it already.

You are a hoot. Without the British and the Americans the colonization of Palestine would not have taken place. By the way, who are you people planning to nuke?

It depends on which Arab bitches wanna eat nukes.
We can thank the French for that.

 

[Boston1]

Bulldoze the Rock and ban Muslims.
They want a war?
Nuke the fuckers.
If any combination of Arab nations actually believed they could take on Israel, they would have done it already.

You are a hoot. Without the British and the Americans the colonization of Palestine would not have taken place. By the way, who are you people planning to nuke?

The colonization of the geographic area of "Pal'istan" had taken place a number of times. Arabs-Moslems and European Christian Crusaders were just two of the invaders / colonists to have a history there.

You are a hoot.

I try ;-) Its a tribal rights issue. Lots of other tribes in the area were awarded homelands and Israel should just take the bull by the horns ;-)

They can play nice guy and let this nonsense go on, or they can begin to get tough and solve the problem. Level the Mount and rebuild the temple. Segregate combatants/decedents of combatants from non combatants and throw the bums out. Exactly as per the Geneva Conventions.

It'd save a lot of lives in the long run.

 

[montelatici]

Sounds like a good plan, but throw in a few nukes.

 

[Shusha]

By international treaty, Jordan is responsible for the care of the Noble Sanctuary. The Israelis have no legal authority to be there.

Lets be clear what the treaty says. Article 9 of the Treaty of Peace Between the State of Israel and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan states:

Article 9. Places of Historical and Religious Significance and Interfaith Relations

1. Each Party will provide freedom of access to places of religious and historical significance.

2. In this regard, in accordance with the Washington Declaration, Israel respects the present special role of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan in Muslim Holy shrines in Jerusalem. When negotiations on the permanent status will take place, Israel will give high priority to the Jordanian historic role in these shrines.

3. The Parties will act together to promote interfaith relations among the three monotheistic religions, with the aim of working towards religious understanding, moral commitment, freedom of religious worship, and tolerance and peace.


Both Parties are responsible for places of religious and historical significance. Both parties are responsible for freedom of religious worship, tolerance and peace.

Israel acknowledges that the Kingdom of Jordan has a special role concerning the Muslim shrines. Nothing else. It does not give sovereignty over the shrines to Jordan. It does not give responsibility to Jordan. It simply acknowledges that Jordan has a special role.


The destruction of those shrines, though, would certainly be a breech of this Peace Agreement.

That said, Jordan is obligated, by treaty, to promote freedom of religious worship. We don't need to scrape the mosque or the Dome to build the Temple. Its a big site and there is plenty of room for both. And we SHOULD rebuild the Temple. I agree with the OP that it is a matter of asserting Jewish First Nations rights. Especially since others are so determined to erase us.

It will start a war though. Its too soon. When we decide to go to war over the Temple Mount, and we will, it would be a good idea to have Jordan, Egypt and Saudia Arabia on our side. We are getting there. We are not there yet.

 

[Shusha]

I also think Israel should insist on properly conducted (meaning conducted by Israel) archaeological surveys of the Temple Mount/Noble Sanctuary.

 

[Boston1]

They need to show some initiative up there thats certain. They should NOT have removed the metal detectors and instead should have removed the protestors.

IMHO they should seriously increase the number of repatriations for Arab troublemakers

 

[montelatici]

They need to show some initiative up there thats certain. They should NOT have removed the metal detectors and instead should have removed the protestors.

IMHO they should seriously increase the number of repatriations for Arab troublemakers

Where would one repatriate Palestinians, since they are the native people of Palestine? I take it you know what repatriation means. It's probably better to repatriate the Jews most of whom only arrived in Palestine from Europe less than a 100 years ago.

 

[Shusha]

They need to show some initiative up there thats certain. They should NOT have removed the metal detectors and instead should have removed the protestors.

I agree. The metal detectors were a reasonable response to Arab violence in a holy place. They should have been kept in place. It creates a win for the temper tantruming two-year-olds with their "days of rage" and violent acts and everyone knows you don't give in to temper tantruming two-year-olds.

Personally, I think that if worshipers can't act with respect and dignity in a holy place, then they should be permanently banned -- including any of the women who yell at passersby, boys who play soccer, or anyone else not acting appropriately.

And, of course, everyone should be permitted to pray or worship anywhere on the holy site.

 

[Shusha]

Of course, that is not what the Palestinians say. Or what the Jordanians say. Or what Muslims worldwide say. Or even what the UN says. In their world:

"This place is holy to Muslims alone, no one else,” insisted Ayad al-Ayoubi, a resident of the Muslim Quarter and one of the worshipers.

"There is nothing Jewish here, nationally or religiously,” (Kenan, another Muslim resident of Jerusalem) declared.

And therein lies the problem. This is WHY the Jewish people need to reassert their rights to their history and religious and historical monuments. We've been erased. We are not BEING erased -- in the minds of Muslims and Arabs and Jordanians and much of the world -- we have ALREADY BEEN erased.

 

[flacaltenn]

The Temple Mount has been the source for endless headaches, the Arabs have used it as a flashpoint for both violence and incitement for far too long.

Should the Israelis simply bull doze whatever Arab structures are not historic, ban Muslims from the Mount and rebuild the temple?

I say its a simple matter of tribal rights. The Muslim structures on the mount are NOT historical in nature or of any significant age that they deserve any special considerations. They represent revisionist history in that they are recent constructs designed to obscure the history of the mount and intended to erase the true cultural history of the TEMPLE MOUNT. Also by removing the flashpoint of so much violence the Judaic people would then have an opportunity to repair the temple structure. The base and foundations appear reasonably intact and construction could begin as soon as the scrape off is complete.

GO

By international treaty, Jordan is responsible for the care of the Noble Sanctuary. The Israelis have no legal authority to be there.

Jordan renounced any claims or stewardship of the West Bank area long ago. Because they washed THEIR hands of any Palestinian problems. Doesn't WANT that job anymore. Which is part of the bigger issue here with the deposition of the "occupied" land.

 

[flacaltenn]

The Temple Mount has been the source for endless headaches, the Arabs have used it as a flashpoint for both violence and incitement for far too long.

Should the Israelis simply bull doze whatever Arab structures are not historic, ban Muslims from the Mount and rebuild the temple?

I say its a simple matter of tribal rights. The Muslim structures on the mount are NOT historical in nature or of any significant age that they deserve any special considerations. They represent revisionist history in that they are recent constructs designed to obscure the history of the mount and intended to erase the true cultural history of the TEMPLE MOUNT. Also by removing the flashpoint of so much violence the Judaic people would then have an opportunity to repair the temple structure. The base and foundations appear reasonably intact and construction could begin as soon as the scrape off is complete.

GO

The Temple Mount should be kept as open access to all visitors. In fact, there should be a Mosque, A Jewish Temple and a Christian Church atop the highest point in the City. THAT would be the kind of statement that befits the central city of the Holy Land.

If Israel can't secure a deal like that -- get the UN to help with security. There's no need for a Messianic RE-BUILDING of central temple for Judaism. None at all.. Israel is NOT a theocracy. Thank Gawd..

 

[BulletProof]

The Muslim structures on the mount are NOT historical in nature or of any significant age that they deserve any special considerations. They represent revisionist history in that they are recent constructs designed to obscure the

Troll Boy, the Dome of the Rock is over 1300 years old. The Dome of the Rock is one of the most sacred buildings of one of the world's largest religions. And, you say it doesn't deserve any special considerations? Mama told me there would be trolls like you.

There is no Temple there to be repaired, but think you for trolling again. New buildings to replace old buildings don't carry the historical value of the old building, ignoramus.

Israel has no legal right nor religious reason to rebuild the Temple. Try not to be such an ignorant troll in the future. But, it was exiting to see you dive so deep into the bullsh1t.

If you really think Israel pissing off the whole Arab would would calm things down, wrong again. Israel exists to be an offense to the world and to God. Peace will only come when it is wiped off the map.

 

[Boston1]

LOL Bullethole you are funny.

Israel has every right, oh they signed a treaty and thats fine but they have security concerns which means the treaty has already been broken. So yeah. Scrape it off and rebuild or just rebuild. Don't car which as long as there are equal rights for all on the Temple Mount

Get over your antisemitism and lets actually have religious equality.

 

[BulletProof]

Don't car which as long as there are equal rights for all on the Temple Mount

Should I have equal rights to your house?

Get over your antisemitism and lets actually have religious equality.

Get over your Antichristism and your Islamaphobia. Also, Jews aren't Semites. Arabs are. So, you need to get over your Antisemitism. Thank you for playing.