Should I Run For Local Office?

Yo man, I know you just made this thread in a desparate attempt to get attention, and to have people talk to you.

But give it up man. You aren't cut out to be a responsible and competent civil servant. Its obvious you have rage problems, limited education, and possibly closeted repressed gay tendencies.

Public officials, even local ones like mayors are high profile public figures. They live in the public limelight. Whatever they post on the internet always has the possibility of being outed. If the shit you post about wiping the muslim people off the face of the earth, or about gay men sticking their cocks down each other's throats was ever outed in public, you would be run out of office at the end of pitchforks.


:eusa_whistle:somebody doesnt live in small town usa...he would get the votes of all the good old boys here

:lol:

I live in a town of ten thousand people, and there's not a city with over 100k population within two hours of me.

I know what you're saying about good old boys. But, in my experience, even small town mayors have to somewhat tactful, restrained, and competent.

I'd be highly surpised to know that our mayor was on tax payer time, posting on message boards about anihilating the muslim people, and going off on rage-filled rants.
 
you have let them bait you into proving you should not run for office..your temper and your tact....both need work

As I've already articulated a few times sb, in this thread, they wouldn't talk to me like that to my face. They probably wouldn't talk like that to ANYONES face. They know they'd get their punk ass kicked up around their shoulders.

There's nothing I've said on here that I wouldn't say to your face. I'd call you "pole rider" and everything, and you wouldn't be able to do shit about it. :lol:
 
Sooo... Just out of curiousity... what if you were to discover that I talk in person exactly as I talk on here? How would you handle that?

Actually shattered, as far as I can recall, I don't remember you calling people names. You may talk in a matter of fact, blunt way, and say things people don't want to hear, but I can appreciate that. You say what you have to say and that's it.

Yes we've been at each other's throats here before, but we've gotten along a lot more than we've faught. I think that says something right there. In that case, my temper wouldn't be any worse, or better, than your's.... board wise. In real life, I'm probably more mellow than you are.

Here's what I'm trying to say.. I'm blunt.. I'm blunt on here, and "out there". There are plenty more people like me out there; male, and female.. Young, and old.. Think back over the years to some of the things you've said to me, and some of the things you've called me, and remember pretty much all are a result of me telling you that your temper needs some serious help in relation to something you've said to others, or my just flat out disagreeing with your take on something...

As a politician, or even as a desk jockey (or anything else in any form of public service) in that line of work, you can't do that. The fact that you're unable to control it here for any length of time pretty much indicates that you're going to be unable to control it "out there" as well.. You say you are far different here, than "out there". To a certain degree, that may be true.. However, on an emotional level, and anger level, I'm willing to bet not. If someone can rile you on here to the point of you actually seeming on the border of violence, and you can't control your tongue, imagine what they can do in real life if they disagree with your policies..

You think libs just on here are bad? Wait til they deface your bike because they don't like your last speech...

I'm just saying...think long, and hard. My take, is that line of work isn't for you...yet.

Welll that was a nice speech, and really, I appreciate it shattered, but what can I say other than you're wrong. Thanks though. I do like you. You remind me of.... me.

Pertaining to my bike... deface it? I can tell you this... and Gunny rides if I'm not mistaken, most bikers feel this way about all the time and money they have in their rides.... "if you value your LIFE as much as I value this bike, then keep your fucking HANDS OFF." (There's even a sticker to stick on your bike that says that.) And that's not just "me," that's *ALL* bikers shattered. What if you saw someone KEY YOUR CAR? What would you do? Smile and say "that's OK?" No. I don't think so. And neither would I. Defacing my bike has NOTHING to do with holding public office. Sorry.

Where I live, I'm well known. My family is well known. I can sit in any bar in town or walk into any business, and know everyone in there. My great grand father owned a tavern in this town and would BARE KNUCKLE BOX ANYONE WHO WOULD DARE, and if they could beat him, they could drink in his bar for the night for free. My other grand father was the Mayor of the next town down from where I'm at, and although people thought he was "tough," they respected and liked him because he was "FAIR." Had someone walked up to either of my grand fathers and spoke to them like some of the trash talking little pukes here on this site do to me, they'd have knocked their teeth out, and people would have said, "they had it coming." Are you starting to get the idea here? People don't want a pussy representing them. They want someone that will stand up for what they believe. They want someone with some fight. THEY WANT SOMEONE THAT WON'T BACK DOWN. I'm that man, and NOTHING said here by you or anyone else will discourage me.

I KNEW I was going to get shit on by some here when I posted the question. It was their perfect opportunity. They do it every chance they get anyway. Do I care? Fuck no. This board is pure entertainment to me, and I take it for what it's worth.

I thank those old friends of mine that gave me honest responses and didn't join in the insults. I also thank those who I've fought with before but were candid enough to respond with their heart felt opinion.

Thank you to:

justabubba
strollingbones
KittenKoder
MountainMan
Toro
ABikerSailor
Zoom-boing
manu1959
Gunny
Luissa
Againsheila
Annie
Amanda
roomy
Meister
Shogun
Dis

Quite a decent list of endorsements and encouragement I'd say... THANK YOU to all of you.

I WILL run for Mayor, and I WILL get elected.
 
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Actually shattered, as far as I can recall, I don't remember you calling people names. You may talk in a matter of fact, blunt way, and say things people don't want to hear, but I can appreciate that. You say what you have to say and that's it.

Yes we've been at each other's throats here before, but we've gotten along a lot more than we've faught. I think that says something right there. In that case, my temper wouldn't be any worse, or better, than your's.... board wise. In real life, I'm probably more mellow than you are.

Here's what I'm trying to say.. I'm blunt.. I'm blunt on here, and "out there". There are plenty more people like me out there; male, and female.. Young, and old.. Think back over the years to some of the things you've said to me, and some of the things you've called me, and remember pretty much all are a result of me telling you that your temper needs some serious help in relation to something you've said to others, or my just flat out disagreeing with your take on something...

As a politician, or even as a desk jockey (or anything else in any form of public service) in that line of work, you can't do that. The fact that you're unable to control it here for any length of time pretty much indicates that you're going to be unable to control it "out there" as well.. You say you are far different here, than "out there". To a certain degree, that may be true.. However, on an emotional level, and anger level, I'm willing to bet not. If someone can rile you on here to the point of you actually seeming on the border of violence, and you can't control your tongue, imagine what they can do in real life if they disagree with your policies..

You think libs just on here are bad? Wait til they deface your bike because they don't like your last speech...

I'm just saying...think long, and hard. My take, is that line of work isn't for you...yet.

Welll that was a nice speech, and really, I appreciate it shattered, but what can I say other than you're wrong. Thanks though. I do like you. You remind me of.... me.

Pertaining to my bike... deface it? I can tell you this... and Gunny rides if I'm not mistaken, most bikers fell this way about all the time and money they have in their rides.... "if you value your LIFE, keep your fucking HANDS OFF." That's not just "me," that's *ALL* bikers shattered. What if you saw someone KEY YOUR CAR? What would you do? Smile and say "that's OK?" No. I don't think so. And neither would I. Defacing my bike has NOTHING to do with holding public office. Sorry.

Where I live, I'm well known. My family is well known. I can sit in any bar in town or walk into any business, and know everyone in there. My great grand father owned a tavern in this town and would BARE KNUCKLE BOX ANYONE WHO WOULD DARE, and if they could beat him, they could drink in his bar for the night for free. My other grand father was the Mayor of the next town down from where I'm at, and although people thought he was "tough," they respected and liked him because he was "FAIR." Had someone walked up to either of my grand fathers and spoke to them like some of the trash talking little pukes here on this site do to me, they'd have knocked their teeth out, and people would have said, "they had it coming." Are you starting to get the idea here? People don't want a pussy representing them. They want someone that will stand up for what they believe. They want someone with some fight. THEY WANT SOMEONE THAT WON'T BACK DOWN. I'm that man, and NOTHING said here by you or anyone else will discourage me.

I KNEW I was going to get shit on by some here when I posted the question. It was their perfect opportunity. They do it every chance they get anyway. Do I care? Fuck no. This board is pure entertainment to me, and I take it for what it's worth.

I thank those old friends of mine that gave me honest responses and didn't join in the insults. I also thank those who I've fought with before but were candid enough to respond with their heart felt opinion.

Thank you to:

justabubba
strollingbones
KittenKoder
MountainMan
Toro
ABikerSailor
Zoom-boing
manu1959
Gunny
Luissa
Againsheila
Annie
Amanda
roomy
Meister
Shogun

Quite a decent list of endorsements and encouragement I'd say... THANK YOU to all of you.

I WILL run for Mayor, and I WILL get elected.

I don't recall insulting you even once, but if you can find where I did so, I'll gladly retract it, since that wasn't my intention in the least.

Other than that, I rest my case. Good luck to you.
 
Cool

Keep us informed. When is the election?

Not sure... :lol:

But I'll find out. Elections we're just held not long ago, so I figure not for awhile. It'll give me chance to start my campaign.
 
Here's what I'm trying to say.. I'm blunt.. I'm blunt on here, and "out there". There are plenty more people like me out there; male, and female.. Young, and old.. Think back over the years to some of the things you've said to me, and some of the things you've called me, and remember pretty much all are a result of me telling you that your temper needs some serious help in relation to something you've said to others, or my just flat out disagreeing with your take on something...

As a politician, or even as a desk jockey (or anything else in any form of public service) in that line of work, you can't do that. The fact that you're unable to control it here for any length of time pretty much indicates that you're going to be unable to control it "out there" as well.. You say you are far different here, than "out there". To a certain degree, that may be true.. However, on an emotional level, and anger level, I'm willing to bet not. If someone can rile you on here to the point of you actually seeming on the border of violence, and you can't control your tongue, imagine what they can do in real life if they disagree with your policies..

You think libs just on here are bad? Wait til they deface your bike because they don't like your last speech...

I'm just saying...think long, and hard. My take, is that line of work isn't for you...yet.

Welll that was a nice speech, and really, I appreciate it shattered, but what can I say other than you're wrong. Thanks though. I do like you. You remind me of.... me.

Pertaining to my bike... deface it? I can tell you this... and Gunny rides if I'm not mistaken, most bikers fell this way about all the time and money they have in their rides.... "if you value your LIFE, keep your fucking HANDS OFF." That's not just "me," that's *ALL* bikers shattered. What if you saw someone KEY YOUR CAR? What would you do? Smile and say "that's OK?" No. I don't think so. And neither would I. Defacing my bike has NOTHING to do with holding public office. Sorry.

Where I live, I'm well known. My family is well known. I can sit in any bar in town or walk into any business, and know everyone in there. My great grand father owned a tavern in this town and would BARE KNUCKLE BOX ANYONE WHO WOULD DARE, and if they could beat him, they could drink in his bar for the night for free. My other grand father was the Mayor of the next town down from where I'm at, and although people thought he was "tough," they respected and liked him because he was "FAIR." Had someone walked up to either of my grand fathers and spoke to them like some of the trash talking little pukes here on this site do to me, they'd have knocked their teeth out, and people would have said, "they had it coming." Are you starting to get the idea here? People don't want a pussy representing them. They want someone that will stand up for what they believe. They want someone with some fight. THEY WANT SOMEONE THAT WON'T BACK DOWN. I'm that man, and NOTHING said here by you or anyone else will discourage me.

I KNEW I was going to get shit on by some here when I posted the question. It was their perfect opportunity. They do it every chance they get anyway. Do I care? Fuck no. This board is pure entertainment to me, and I take it for what it's worth.

I thank those old friends of mine that gave me honest responses and didn't join in the insults. I also thank those who I've fought with before but were candid enough to respond with their heart felt opinion.

Thank you to:

justabubba
strollingbones
KittenKoder
MountainMan
Toro
ABikerSailor
Zoom-boing
manu1959
Gunny
Luissa
Againsheila
Annie
Amanda
roomy
Meister
Shogun

Quite a decent list of endorsements and encouragement I'd say... THANK YOU to all of you.

I WILL run for Mayor, and I WILL get elected.

I don't recall insulting you even once, but if you can find where I did so, I'll gladly retract it, since that wasn't my intention in the least.

Other than that, I rest my case. Good luck to you.

I didn't say you insulted me either. It's just that everything you said was negative and pretty much off base, as far as my real life goes. I have no problem with that though. I don't expect you to be able to know who and what I am just from this board. That's impossible. You are you, and I've learned to take what you say with a grain of salt.

But I do thank you for your input.
 
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Actually shattered, as far as I can recall, I don't remember you calling people names. You may talk in a matter of fact, blunt way, and say things people don't want to hear, but I can appreciate that. You say what you have to say and that's it.

Yes we've been at each other's throats here before, but we've gotten along a lot more than we've faught. I think that says something right there. In that case, my temper wouldn't be any worse, or better, than your's.... board wise. In real life, I'm probably more mellow than you are.

Here's what I'm trying to say.. I'm blunt.. I'm blunt on here, and "out there". There are plenty more people like me out there; male, and female.. Young, and old.. Think back over the years to some of the things you've said to me, and some of the things you've called me, and remember pretty much all are a result of me telling you that your temper needs some serious help in relation to something you've said to others, or my just flat out disagreeing with your take on something...

As a politician, or even as a desk jockey (or anything else in any form of public service) in that line of work, you can't do that. The fact that you're unable to control it here for any length of time pretty much indicates that you're going to be unable to control it "out there" as well.. You say you are far different here, than "out there". To a certain degree, that may be true.. However, on an emotional level, and anger level, I'm willing to bet not. If someone can rile you on here to the point of you actually seeming on the border of violence, and you can't control your tongue, imagine what they can do in real life if they disagree with your policies..

You think libs just on here are bad? Wait til they deface your bike because they don't like your last speech...

I'm just saying...think long, and hard. My take, is that line of work isn't for you...yet.

Welll that was a nice speech, and really, I appreciate it shattered, but what can I say other than you're wrong. Thanks though. I do like you. You remind me of.... me.

Pertaining to my bike... deface it? I can tell you this... and Gunny rides if I'm not mistaken, most bikers feel this way about all the time and money they have in their rides.... "if you value your LIFE as much as I value this bike, then keep your fucking HANDS OFF." (There's even a sticker to stick on your bike that says that.) And that's not just "me," that's *ALL* bikers shattered. What if you saw someone KEY YOUR CAR? What would you do? Smile and say "that's OK?" No. I don't think so. And neither would I. Defacing my bike has NOTHING to do with holding public office. Sorry.

Where I live, I'm well known. My family is well known. I can sit in any bar in town or walk into any business, and know everyone in there. My great grand father owned a tavern in this town and would BARE KNUCKLE BOX ANYONE WHO WOULD DARE, and if they could beat him, they could drink in his bar for the night for free. My other grand father was the Mayor of the next town down from where I'm at, and although people thought he was "tough," they respected and liked him because he was "FAIR." Had someone walked up to either of my grand fathers and spoke to them like some of the trash talking little pukes here on this site do to me, they'd have knocked their teeth out, and people would have said, "they had it coming." Are you starting to get the idea here? People don't want a pussy representing them. They want someone that will stand up for what they believe. They want someone with some fight. THEY WANT SOMEONE THAT WON'T BACK DOWN. I'm that man, and NOTHING said here by you or anyone else will discourage me.

I KNEW I was going to get shit on by some here when I posted the question. It was their perfect opportunity. They do it every chance they get anyway. Do I care? Fuck no. This board is pure entertainment to me, and I take it for what it's worth.

I thank those old friends of mine that gave me honest responses and didn't join in the insults. I also thank those who I've fought with before but were candid enough to respond with their heart felt opinion.

Thank you to:

justabubba
strollingbones
KittenKoder
MountainMan
Toro
ABikerSailor
Zoom-boing
manu1959
Gunny
Luissa
Againsheila
Annie
Amanda
roomy
Meister
Shogun
Dis

Quite a decent list of endorsements and encouragement I'd say... THANK YOU to all of you.

I WILL run for Mayor, and I WILL get elected.

Good luck to you P.R. even though you ignored me through this entire thread. :D

Simply because I said No, in my first response based on the fact that you seem to sometimes have a hot temper and stand by your principles doesn't mean I would not endorse you.

Immie
 
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Actually, now that I think about it, P.R., you would be better off without my endorsement. :)

Immie
 
LMAO, is this a joke ?? Pale I had to check to make sure I didn't hit the humor thread, lol

Come on man I remember way back when , you don't have the patience for it,

As for being a hang around come on man you and I both now we wouldn't want our past opened up to the public, unless the club your talking about did a complete turn around they are now a religious club, but I don't think that happened, and we both know they are from being good citizens ( to say the least)

Giving whats in the WH now I would say anyone could get in office, but lets not forget how Obama got in.

Well either way good luck in your decision
 
LMAO, is this a joke ?? Pale I had to check to make sure I didn't hit the humor thread, lol

Come on man I remember way back when , you don't have the patience for it,

As for being a hang around come on man you and I both now we wouldn't want our past opened up to the public, unless the club your talking about did a complete turn around they are now a religious club, but I don't think that happened, and we both know they are from being good citizens ( to say the least)

Giving whats in the WH now I would say anyone could get in office, but lets not forget how Obama got in.

Well either way good luck in your decision

I've got several 8X10, framed pictures of me with several different members of the Bodertown Chapter of the Vagos hanging on my garage wall. Anybody can see them anytime they want. I couldn't care less.

And you'll have to excuse me Jeff, but I vaguely recall you from the board, so there is really no way you could know me. But I appreciate your comments, thanks.
 
I know a side of PR that maybe many of you don't, I think he'd do fine as a public servant.
 
LMAO, is this a joke ?? Pale I had to check to make sure I didn't hit the humor thread, lol

Come on man I remember way back when , you don't have the patience for it,

As for being a hang around come on man you and I both now we wouldn't want our past opened up to the public, unless the club your talking about did a complete turn around they are now a religious club, but I don't think that happened, and we both know they are from being good citizens ( to say the least)

Giving whats in the WH now I would say anyone could get in office, but lets not forget how Obama got in.

Well either way good luck in your decision

I've got several 8X10, framed pictures of me with several different members of the Bodertown Chapter of the Vagos hanging on my garage wall. Anybody can see them anytime they want. I couldn't care less.

And you'll have to excuse me Jeff, but I vaguely recall you from the board, so there is really no way you could know me. But I appreciate your comments, thanks.

I never doubted ya rode with anyone Pale what I said was after being associated with know felons do you really think that would help you?

As for not knowing me , we spoke in depth about riding , trucking and quite a few other topics, but yes it was a long time ago, It was back right after you graduated from mechanic school if I remember right , or maybe ya were still going , I don't know , but hell that's OK you asked and I told ya , ooo well
 
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LMAO, is this a joke ?? Pale I had to check to make sure I didn't hit the humor thread, lol

Come on man I remember way back when , you don't have the patience for it,

As for being a hang around come on man you and I both now we wouldn't want our past opened up to the public, unless the club your talking about did a complete turn around they are now a religious club, but I don't think that happened, and we both know they are from being good citizens ( to say the least)

Giving whats in the WH now I would say anyone could get in office, but lets not forget how Obama got in.

Well either way good luck in your decision

I've got several 8X10, framed pictures of me with several different members of the Bodertown Chapter of the Vagos hanging on my garage wall. Anybody can see them anytime they want. I couldn't care less.

And you'll have to excuse me Jeff, but I vaguely recall you from the board, so there is really no way you could know me. But I appreciate your comments, thanks.

I never doubted ya rode with anyone Pale what I said was after being associated with know felons do you really think that would help you?

As for not knowing me , we spoke in depth about riding , trucking and quite a few other topics, but yes it was a long time ago, It was back right after you graduated from mechanic school if I remember right , or maybe ya were still going , I don't know , but hell that's OK you asked and I told ya , ooo well

None of the Vagos I associated with were felons Jeff. Many of them had Concealed Carry permits and packed heat, and you can't do that if you're a felon. The Vagos had two main missions in their club, 1) Ride 2) Party and not always in that order. Family came first, job second, club last. I don't really have anything bad to say about the Vagos. I had a blast partying and riding with the pack, and never witnessed any of them doing anything illegal, aside from speeding and riding while intoxicated. But you don't have to be in a club to do that. Most of the people I know that ride stop at bars and drink when they ride.

And I don't mean that I don't remember you Jeff, I do. But I made a point ealier in this thread that I don't think anybody here can really know other people here just by posting on this board. I think that because of how far off some are as to what I'm like in person. It's really quite different from what I have been here, as with may others here I'm sure.

Nice to see you back Jeff.
 
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I've got several 8X10, framed pictures of me with several different members of the Bodertown Chapter of the Vagos hanging on my garage wall. Anybody can see them anytime they want. I couldn't care less.

And you'll have to excuse me Jeff, but I vaguely recall you from the board, so there is really no way you could know me. But I appreciate your comments, thanks.

I never doubted ya rode with anyone Pale what I said was after being associated with know felons do you really think that would help you?

As for not knowing me , we spoke in depth about riding , trucking and quite a few other topics, but yes it was a long time ago, It was back right after you graduated from mechanic school if I remember right , or maybe ya were still going , I don't know , but hell that's OK you asked and I told ya , ooo well

None of the Vagos I associated with were felons Jeff. Many of them had Concealed Carry permits and packed heat, and you can't do that if you're a felon. The Vagos had two main missions in their club, 1) Ride 2) Party and not always in that order. Family came first, job second, club last. I don't really have anything bad to say about the Vagos. I had a blast partying and riding with the pack, and never witnessed any of them doing anything illegal, aside from speeding and riding while intoxicated. But you don't have to be in a club to do that. Most of the people I know that ride stop at bars and drink when they ride.

And I don't mean that I don't remember you Jeff, I do. But I made a point ealier in this thread that I don't think anybody here can really know other people here just by posting on this board. I think that because of how far off some are as to what I'm like in person. It's really quite different from what I have been here, as with may others here I'm sure.

Nice to see you back Jeff.

That's a good deal Pale, I don't know much about the Vagos, only the clubs I have run with , so sorry for assuming, and thanks for the welcome back.

And Pale, you are allot more fun when ya are going over the deep end, lol
 
I never doubted ya rode with anyone Pale what I said was after being associated with know felons do you really think that would help you?

As for not knowing me , we spoke in depth about riding , trucking and quite a few other topics, but yes it was a long time ago, It was back right after you graduated from mechanic school if I remember right , or maybe ya were still going , I don't know , but hell that's OK you asked and I told ya , ooo well

None of the Vagos I associated with were felons Jeff. Many of them had Concealed Carry permits and packed heat, and you can't do that if you're a felon. The Vagos had two main missions in their club, 1) Ride 2) Party and not always in that order. Family came first, job second, club last. I don't really have anything bad to say about the Vagos. I had a blast partying and riding with the pack, and never witnessed any of them doing anything illegal, aside from speeding and riding while intoxicated. But you don't have to be in a club to do that. Most of the people I know that ride stop at bars and drink when they ride.

And I don't mean that I don't remember you Jeff, I do. But I made a point ealier in this thread that I don't think anybody here can really know other people here just by posting on this board. I think that because of how far off some are as to what I'm like in person. It's really quite different from what I have been here, as with may others here I'm sure.

Nice to see you back Jeff.

That's a good deal Pale, I don't know much about the Vagos, only the clubs I have run with , so sorry for assuming, and thanks for the welcome back.

And Pale, you are allot more fun when ya are going over the deep end, lol

Yeah I remember... when this board started it was a pretty wild place, and very few held back. But for those who were here all those years ago as yourself, yes, you can see I've calmed down one whole heck of a lot. I've just come to the realization it's more fun for me. But I'll tell ya Jeff, I can still piss people off, just by purporting my conservative opinion. The liberals just HATE to listen to conservatives. They get nasty just because you're a conservative. They don't want to hear about God, they don't want to hear about morality, and they don't want to hear about logic. Hey... they elected oblahma didn't they? :lol:
 
LE arrests 25 Calif. motorcycle gang leaders and associated
The Associated Press

Rancho Cucamonga, Calif.- Twenty-five leaders and associates of the Vagos motorcycle club were arrested following one of the largest coordinated law enforcement probes ever conducted in Southern California, authorities said.



Thursday's operation involved 700 personnel from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and local police and sheriff's departments.

"The Vagos are a ruthless criminal biker gang that virtually held our communities hostage" by dealing in "guns, drugs and death," said John Torres, a special agent in charge with the ATF.

"Operation 22 Green," as it was called, targeted Vagos associates in five Southern California counties. Green is the club's chosen color and 22 corresponds to V, the 22nd letter of the alphabet.

More than 80 search and arrest warrants were issued and 25 people were taken into custody Thursday on federal or state charges that included firearms and drug violations. Another five people already were in custody.


LE arrests 25 Calif. motorcycle gang leaders and associated
 
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