Should I Run For Local Office?

[KittenKoder]

Kalam, here is the flaw in your technique. First, all the holy wars over there started because one person or another wanted genocide, yes it's a bad thing to want unless you are jesting in which case people just need to grow a funny bone again, but their reaction was to "preemptively" attack, starting several wars that have gone on for so long people there don't even remember what they are fighting about.

I'm sorry; I'm not sure how this relates to the discussion at hand.

Most who cry for genocide fail if they are serious about it, as long as they are allowed to make fools of themselves first. Preemptive strikes however always lead to war, period. So if PR was not just being sarcastic or quick tempered, having him in a place of power would benefit even you, as it would make everything about him become public knowledge. So yeah, you are taking the low road. Honestly, I truly doubt that given the chance PR would actually do something like that.

I don't care what he'd do, really, because he'll never be in a position where he'd be able to exercise such power. I care about what he said. He stated explicitly that he believes all Muslims should be killed. What is unfortunate is that some, like you, seem to be defending him anyway.

First, the part you didn't get the connection is what you are doing, someone said something you thought was wrong and you went on the offensive and won't let it go.

Secondly, censorship is a bad thing that will always work against those who wish it as much as those it targets. If you want to force people to speak out about something they oppose, then you will also be unable to speak out about things you oppose. It always works both ways.

As for him never being in a position of power, Obama became president, as far as I see it, anyone can now get there.

 

[Kalam]

First, the part you didn't get the connection is what you are doing, someone said something you thought was wrong and you went on the offensive and won't let it go.

Why would I let that go? Why am I expected to take that? I am not a Christian; I don't turn the other cheek.

Secondly, censorship is a bad thing that will always work against those who wish it as much as those it targets. If you want to force people to speak out about something they oppose, then you will also be unable to speak out about things you oppose. It always works both ways.

Where have I argued in favor of censorship?

I suggested that the remark made was tasteless and incredibly offensive. I've treated Pole Rider like the swine he is. Now you're shrugging off his comment and criticizing me for taking offense to his advocacy of killing me and every other Muslim?

Interesting how making similarly moronic comments about eradicating Jews or Christians would turn a poster into a forum pariah.

As for him never being in a position of power, Obama became president, as far as I see it, anyone can now get there.

Obama's foreign policy doesn't involve turning the ME and its inhabitants into glass.

 

[KittenKoder]

First, the part you didn't get the connection is what you are doing, someone said something you thought was wrong and you went on the offensive and won't let it go.

Why would I let that go? Why am I expected to take that? I am not a Christian; I don't turn the other cheek.

Secondly, censorship is a bad thing that will always work against those who wish it as much as those it targets. If you want to force people to speak out about something they oppose, then you will also be unable to speak out about things you oppose. It always works both ways.

Where have I argued in favor of censorship?

I suggested that the remark made was tasteless and incredibly offensive. I've treated Pole Rider like the swine he is. Now you're shrugging off his comment and criticizing me for taking offense to his advocacy of killing me and every other Muslim?

Interesting how making similarly moronic comments about eradicating Jews or Christians would turn a poster into a forum pariah.

As for him never being in a position of power, Obama became president, as far as I see it, anyone can now get there.

Obama's foreign policy doesn't involve turning the ME and its inhabitants into glass.

Really ... and you think PR and I have never butted heads? Everyone butts heads sometimes, and everyone says something that offends someone else, thus is the one problem with being allowed to say what you want. The problem is when you take it further than it needs to go. As for the "becoming a pariah", it's still better than using baseless insults, and the biggest difference, those who are often ignored by many others is not because of their specific remarks, but because they don't talk about anything else *hint hint*.

 

[Kalam]

Really ... and you think PR and I have never butted heads? Everyone butts heads sometimes, and everyone says something that offends someone else, thus is the one problem with being allowed to say what you want.

I think that he has never said that you and all of those who share your beliefs should be killed. Yes, everyone argues. Not everybody advocates genocide. Those who do deserve nothing but ridicule and will receive nothing but that from me without some sort of acknowledgment of poor judgment on their part.

The problem is when you take it further than it needs to go. As for the "becoming a pariah", it's still better than using baseless insults, and the biggest difference, those who are often ignored by many others is not because of their specific remarks, but because they don't talk about anything else *hint hint*.

I believe that our disagreement stems from a fundamental difference in how we perceive advocacy of genocide, whether that advocacy was "serious" or not. You believe that I should shrug it off. I take it more seriously because I can't help thinking about what happens when sentiments like PR's are put into action.

 

[roomy]

Pale, go for it, you think you can make a difference for the better, you know many who would vote for you in a small town, go out canvassing and make a difference.

 

[KittenKoder]

Really ... and you think PR and I have never butted heads? Everyone butts heads sometimes, and everyone says something that offends someone else, thus is the one problem with being allowed to say what you want.

I think that he has never said that you and all of those who share your beliefs should be killed. Yes, everyone argues. Not everybody advocates genocide. Those who do deserve nothing but ridicule and will receive nothing but that from me without some sort of acknowledgment of poor judgment on their part.

The problem is when you take it further than it needs to go. As for the "becoming a pariah", it's still better than using baseless insults, and the biggest difference, those who are often ignored by many others is not because of their specific remarks, but because they don't talk about anything else *hint hint*.

I believe that our disagreement stems from a fundamental difference in how we perceive advocacy of genocide, whether that advocacy was "serious" or not. You believe that I should shrug it off. I take it more seriously because I can't help thinking about what happens when sentiments like PR's are put into action.

Wow, you are on here for what, 3 months, and yet you make a huge assumption .. just wow.

 

[Kalam]

Really ... and you think PR and I have never butted heads? Everyone butts heads sometimes, and everyone says something that offends someone else, thus is the one problem with being allowed to say what you want.

I think that he has never said that you and all of those who share your beliefs should be killed. Yes, everyone argues. Not everybody advocates genocide. Those who do deserve nothing but ridicule and will receive nothing but that from me without some sort of acknowledgment of poor judgment on their part.

The problem is when you take it further than it needs to go. As for the "becoming a pariah", it's still better than using baseless insults, and the biggest difference, those who are often ignored by many others is not because of their specific remarks, but because they don't talk about anything else *hint hint*.

I believe that our disagreement stems from a fundamental difference in how we perceive advocacy of genocide, whether that advocacy was "serious" or not. You believe that I should shrug it off. I take it more seriously because I can't help thinking about what happens when sentiments like PR's are put into action.

Wow, you are on here for what, 3 months, and yet you make a huge assumption .. just wow.

What assumption is that? If something that I said is incorrect, correct me.

 

[roomy]

It is all about political opinion, Pale should run for Mayor, if he gets the majority vote he will be Mayor if he doesn't, there is always next time, he may have to mellow and kiss a few babies but I am sure he is up to it.
It's not like the man is a total moron, I am sure he can differentiate between messageboard opinion and small town policy.I think he would make a good Mayor.

 

[007]

Why would I let that go? Why am I expected to take that? I am not a Christian; I don't turn the other cheek.

And what.... is this why all you muslims feel as though you can ride rough shod over Christians.... because they're not supposed to fight back?

I suggested that the remark made was tasteless and incredibly offensive. I've treated Pale Rider like the swine he is. Now you're shrugging off his comment and criticizing me for taking offense to his advocacy of killing me and every other Muslim?

And do know WHY I've said what I said? You probably do but you don't want that brought up. Well I'll remind you... it's because of all the terrorists attacks around the world that have killed countless innocent people, and top it off with the three thousand people here killed on 9/11, all in the name of YOUR MUSLIM RELIGION JIHAD to KILL ALL INFIDELS! I didn't start this shit.... YOU and your RELIGION DID ya filthy sons a bitch. Do I care if you don't like me making comments like we ought make a glass parking lot out of the middle east? FUCK NO! In fact, it MAKES ME HAPPY! Hell I just might KEEP IT UP NOW.

You've got no room to talk salami sucker. Pound sand moron.

 

[Meister]

Pale, you owe it to yourself, your family, and your community to run for a public office. If you you feel you can make your community a better place, you should run for mayor. You might find that politics is your calling, and move up the ladder in politics. If your on the fence about it....don't leave any regrets by not at least trying. Good luck in your decision.

 

[KittenKoder]

I think that he has never said that you and all of those who share your beliefs should be killed. Yes, everyone argues. Not everybody advocates genocide. Those who do deserve nothing but ridicule and will receive nothing but that from me without some sort of acknowledgment of poor judgment on their part.


I believe that our disagreement stems from a fundamental difference in how we perceive advocacy of genocide, whether that advocacy was "serious" or not. You believe that I should shrug it off. I take it more seriously because I can't help thinking about what happens when sentiments like PR's are put into action.

Wow, you are on here for what, 3 months, and yet you make a huge assumption .. just wow.

What assumption is that? If something that I said is incorrect, correct me.

"I think that he has never said that you and all of those who share your beliefs"

That assumption. We have all said something like this about someone ... seriously, if you had time go back through the years here and on any uncensored board, if you think it's just you then you are playing a victim, nothing more.

 

[Kalam]

Wow, you are on here for what, 3 months, and yet you make a huge assumption .. just wow.

What assumption is that? If something that I said is incorrect, correct me.

"I think that he has never said that you and all of those who share your beliefs"

That assumption. We have all said something like this about someone ... seriously, if you had time go back through the years here and on any uncensored board, if you think it's just you then you are playing a victim, nothing more.

Somebody said that all Pharaonic Pagans (correct?) should be killed for the good of the rest of the world? I don't play victim, but you're mistaken if you don't believe that Muslims currently face more prejudicial hatred than most other groups in the US.

 

[007]

What assumption is that? If something that I said is incorrect, correct me.

"I think that he has never said that you and all of those who share your beliefs"

That assumption. We have all said something like this about someone ... seriously, if you had time go back through the years here and on any uncensored board, if you think it's just you then you are playing a victim, nothing more.

Somebody said that all Pharaonic Pagans (correct?) should be killed for the good of the rest of the world? I don't play victim, but you're mistaken if you don't believe that Muslims currently face more prejudicial hatred than most other groups in the US.

They've EARNED that prejudice. They've KILLED more innocent people all over the world than anyone else.

Maybe you should have the same amount of outrage against those of your own religion responsible, instead of getting so pissed off at me for REACTING to what they've done to me and my country, then maybe you'd have more credibility. As it is now, you just look like another hypocrite, bigot, muslim zealot condemning all others for their outrage against muslims, not caring WHY.

 

[Kalam]

Why would I let that go? Why am I expected to take that? I am not a Christian; I don't turn the other cheek.

And what.... is this why all you muslims feel as though you can ride rough shod over Christians.... because they're not supposed to fight back?

I suggested that the remark made was tasteless and incredibly offensive. I've treated Pale Rider like the swine he is. Now you're shrugging off his comment and criticizing me for taking offense to his advocacy of killing me and every other Muslim?

And do know WHY I've said what I said? You probably do but you don't want that brought up. Well I'll remind you... it's because of all the terrorists attacks around the world that have killed countless innocent people, and top it off with the three thousand people here killed on 9/11, all in the name of YOUR MUSLIM RELIGION JIHAD to KILL ALL INFIDELS! I didn't start this shit.... YOU and your RELIGION DID ya filthy sons a bitch. Do I care if you don't like me making comments like we ought make a glass parking lot out of the middle east? FUCK NO! In fact, it MAKES ME HAPPY! Hell I just might KEEP IT UP NOW.

You've got no room to talk salami sucker. Pound sand moron.

You'll criticize me, KK, and not this dumbass?

 

[Kalam]

They've EARNED that prejudice.

No, prejudice is never justified. I hate the crimes that Israel continually perpetrates against Palestinians, but I will never make sweeping generalizations about Jews or Israelis or call for their genocide, because that would be wrong.

They've KILLED more innocent people all over the world than anyone else.

Prove it. Even if that were true, advocacy of genocide is disgusting.

Maybe you should have the same amount of outrage against those of your own religion responsible,

I do. Last time I checked, none of them post here; only people like you.

instead of getting so pissed off at me for REACTING to what they've done to me and my country, then maybe you'd have more credibility.

I'm so sorry I don't tell every terrorist mushrik I encounter to post here so that I can debate them in front of you. Let me know if they start coming here, and I'll treat them in the same manner I treat you and AStrikingFailure.

As it is now, you just look like another hypocrite, bigot, muslim zealot condemning all others for their outrage against muslims, not caring WHY.

Buddy, I wouldn't care why you called for a genocide of any people. It's never justified, ever, because it involves irrationally assuming that every member of a certain population is responsible for crimes perpetrated by a few.

 

[007]

Why would I let that go? Why am I expected to take that? I am not a Christian; I don't turn the other cheek.

And what.... is this why all you muslims feel as though you can ride rough shod over Christians.... because they're not supposed to fight back?

I suggested that the remark made was tasteless and incredibly offensive. I've treated Pale Rider like the swine he is. Now you're shrugging off his comment and criticizing me for taking offense to his advocacy of killing me and every other Muslim?

And do know WHY I've said what I said? You probably do but you don't want that brought up. Well I'll remind you... it's because of all the terrorists attacks around the world that have killed countless innocent people, and top it off with the three thousand people here killed on 9/11, all in the name of YOUR MUSLIM RELIGION JIHAD to KILL ALL INFIDELS! I didn't start this shit.... YOU and your RELIGION DID ya filthy sons a bitch. Do I care if you don't like me making comments like we ought make a glass parking lot out of the middle east? FUCK NO! In fact, it MAKES ME HAPPY! Hell I just might KEEP IT UP NOW.

You've got no room to talk salami sucker. Pound sand moron.

You'll criticize me, KK, and not this dumbass?

You're the bank robber crying about the bank being mad at you for robbing them.

Nobody is buying your act salami.

 

[Kalam]

And what.... is this why all you muslims feel as though you can ride rough shod over Christians.... because they're not supposed to fight back?


And do know WHY I've said what I said? You probably do but you don't want that brought up. Well I'll remind you... it's because of all the terrorists attacks around the world that have killed countless innocent people, and top it off with the three thousand people here killed on 9/11, all in the name of YOUR MUSLIM RELIGION JIHAD to KILL ALL INFIDELS! I didn't start this shit.... YOU and your RELIGION DID ya filthy sons a bitch. Do I care if you don't like me making comments like we ought make a glass parking lot out of the middle east? FUCK NO! In fact, it MAKES ME HAPPY! Hell I just might KEEP IT UP NOW.

You've got no room to talk salami sucker. Pound sand moron.

You'll criticize me, KK, and not this dumbass?

You're the bank robber crying about the bank being mad at you for robbing them.

Nobody is buying your act salami.

You're telling the police to kill over a billion innocent people who happen to share the same religious beliefs as the "bank robbers." Unfortunately, people have bought your act, as they did in Armenia at the turn of the century, Europe during World War II, Bosnia in the 90's, etc.

 

[007]

You'll criticize me, KK, and not this dumbass?

You're the bank robber crying about the bank being mad at you for robbing them.

Nobody is buying your act salami.

You're telling the police to kill over a billion innocent people who happen to share the same religious beliefs as the "bank robbers." Unfortunately, people have bought your act, as they did in Armenia at the turn of the century, Europe during World War II, Bosnia in the 90's, etc.

I didn't "TELL" anyone to do anything. When you start showing the same amount of outrage against muslims who condone jihad, then maybe someone will take your side. Until then, you just sound like another radical, muslim, jihadist excuse machine.

 

[Kalam]

I didn't "TELL" anyone to do anything. When you start showing the same amount of outrage against muslims who condone jihad,

I do express outrage against so-called Muslims who believe in killing innocents and aggressive warfare. As I said, none of them post here. You do.

then maybe someone will take your side. Until then, you just sound like another radical, muslim, jihadist excuse machine.

Until you take back your comment supporting genocide, you will sound like a Nazi-loving maniac.

 

[007]

I do express outrage against so-called Muslims who believe in killing innocents and aggressive warfare. As I said, none of them post here. You do.

I've never seen it, and you've had plenty of opportunity to do it.

Until you take back your comment supporting genocide, you will sound like a Nazi-loving maniac.

I'll take back my comment when I see all the radical muslims lay down their arms and openly declare they no longer want to kill all the infidels and dominate the world. Until then, NO FUCKING WAY. They want to kill me, I want to kill them before they kill me.

Funny thing though... I didn't even want anything to do with muslims, couldn't have cared less, up until they started killing Americans... INFIDELS... and declaring they were going to make the whole world muslim, or you will die. THAT is your Nazi shit, not me. My response is a reaction to, not a provocation.

The best defense is a good offense.