Shocker! A Liberal Attack On Success

[jillian]

I'm still trying to figure out where the pretend "attack on success is", as opposed to justified criticism of an entity's action.

but hey, why live in reality?

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm still trying to figure out where the pretend "attack on success is", as opposed to justified criticism of an entity's action.

but hey, why live in reality?

Now, now, dear....I have a higher estimate of your intelligence than you pretend in this post.



Bet you fully understand that both Wal-Mart, and charter schools are examples of,and symbols of, success.....

...and both, with metronomic regularity, subject to Liberal onslaught.

If you have time, peruse this thread and you will find such attacks on both.



That, in fact, is reality.





And, to make our positions clear.....would you like to offer an opinion of either?

 

[jillian]

I'm still trying to figure out where the pretend "attack on success is", as opposed to justified criticism of an entity's action.

but hey, why live in reality?

Now, now, dear....I have a higher estimate of your intelligence than you pretend in this post.

Bet you fully understand that both Wal-Mart, and charter schools are examples of,and symbols of, success.....

...and both, with metronomic regularity, subject to Liberal onslaught.

If you have time, peruse this thread and you will find such attacks on both.

That, in fact, is reality.


And, to make our positions clear.....would you like to offer an opinion of either?

I thought I've told you i'm not interested in long winded cut and pasts that have to be dissected.

you want responses? don't post diatribes.

and like I said... still looking for the attacks on success.

your delusion is in this fantasy that walmart is a symbol of "success" when it isn't. it's a symbol of corporate welfare, destruction of communities, the driving down of wages and the destruction of middle class upward mobility.

so i'd suggest you try again.... this time without the delusional thinking.

 

[Bfgrn]

Just how far, to what lengths....of should I ask, to what depths will Liberals sink in their efforts to attack 'success'?

Here....to set the stage, the explanation for the Left's hatred of capitalism and the free market, e.g., Wal-Mart: it is a system which produces winners and losers, a painful fact that the Left would rather not see.





Add the current debate over charter schools and vouchers, clearly more successful than public schools....and you have the explanation for the following:



1. ".... this past weekend’s front-page news article in the New York Times... about the Walton Family Foundation and what the Times called “its many tentacles.”.

2. ... the article goes on to explain that the foundation, backed by members of the family that founded Walmart, “has helped fuel some of the fastest growing, and most divisive, trends in public education — including teacher evaluations based on student test scores and publicly funded vouchers for students to attend private schools.”

3. The article reports, for example, that “Walton’s Mr. Sternberg, who started his career in Teach for America and founded the Bronx Lab School, a public school in New York City, does not apologize for Walton’s commitment to charter schools and vouchers.”

4. Why would he apologize? Why should he be expected to apologize? He’s helping to make schools better. .... If anyone should apologize here, it is the Times, for suggesting that an apology is in order.




5. .... in this case it taps in to a broader and highly significant political trend, which is the tendency by the left to blame spending by right-of-center or free-market-oriented billionaires for just about every twist and turn in the public policy debate.

6. ... Charles and David Koch are imagined as puppeteers behind the Tea Party or the Keystone pipeline, or Sheldon Adelson is the reason for pro-Israel sentiment in the Republican Party.
Never mind that there are left-wing billionaires like George Soros or Thomas Steyer, not to mention labor unions, spending large sums,...




7. If parents were perfectly satisfied with regular public schools, the charter and voucher movements would face a tougher battle than they already do...haven’t made school vouchers widely available other than in a few unusual and narrow cases of a failing school, a poor family or special-needs student, and a rare state or local government that has managed to pass a voucher law over teachers’ union opposition.





8. For a sense of what a non-Walton public school is like, one need look no further than P.S. 111, the Adolph S. Ochs School in Manhattan. It is a taxpayer funded New York City public school named after the patriarch of the family that controls the New York Times. Over the years the New York Times Company and its foundation have been involved with the school .... suggesting a certain hypocrisy of the Times in objecting to the Walton family’s efforts.

9. The Times’ tentacles on the Adolph Ochs school may not have been “divisive,” but neither have they been particularly successful; the school earned a grade of “D” for its school environment in its most recent evaluation from the city, and the city’s quality reviewobserves “the principal acknowledges that teachers have not received written feedback this year.”

a. Only 19% of the school’s sixth graders pass the state English test and only 24% of the school’s fifth graders pass the state math test.




10. If the Walton Foundation can provide a voucher or charter school option to escape this status quo, perhaps the Times should thank the Waltons rather than imply that an apology is in order."
Waltons Derided by N.Y. Times As Its Own School Charity Fails - The New York Sun





As Winston Churchill observed:
“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.”

For the Liberal NYTimes, the equal sharing of non-education is a virtue.

You have only one problem...people who READ.

The NYT article is not an attack, it presents a balanced view.

The NY Sun article is an attack...

You're welcome.

Let's clear the decks: you were always, and will continue to be, a dunce.

Case in point: "The NYT article is not an attack, it presents a balanced view."



Now for the truth:


1. "the New York Times — ostensibly, at least, more of a straight-down-the-middle outlet than Rolling Stone — about the Walton Family Foundation and what the Times called “its many tentacles.”


And...



2. "...the article goes on to explain that the foundation, backed by members of the family that founded Walmart, “has helped fuel some of the fastest growing, and most divisive, trends in public education — including teacher evaluations based on student test scores and publicly funded vouchers for students to attend private schools.”

Calling an idea “divisive” can be a way for a reporter and an editor to signal that they don’t like it. So is the practice, seen in the Times article, of announcing that the subject of an article has “no apologies.”
Waltons Derided by N.Y. Times As Its Own School Charity Fails - The New York Sun


In simplest terms, how about you adding this to your next job resume: "I get my tentacles into all sorts of places they don't belong, and take pride in being divisive. Nor will I ever apologize...no matter what!!!!"

Actually, in your case, it might well be 'a balance view.'
Moron.




You are simply one of those parents who can never see malignance, hatefullness, in their own children....in this case the NYTimes.


I suspect it is a character trait of yours, as well.
Bet you've heard that a bunch.

World English Dictionary
divisive (dɪˈvaɪsɪv)

— adj
1. causing or tending to cause disagreement or dissension

The NYT article is not an attack, it presents a balanced view.

The NY Sun article is an attack...

AGAIN...you're welcome.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm still trying to figure out where the pretend "attack on success is", as opposed to justified criticism of an entity's action.

but hey, why live in reality?

Now, now, dear....I have a higher estimate of your intelligence than you pretend in this post.

Bet you fully understand that both Wal-Mart, and charter schools are examples of,and symbols of, success.....

...and both, with metronomic regularity, subject to Liberal onslaught.

If you have time, peruse this thread and you will find such attacks on both.

That, in fact, is reality.


And, to make our positions clear.....would you like to offer an opinion of either?

I thought I've told you i'm not interested in long winded cut and pasts that have to be dissected.

you want responses? don't post diatribes.

and like I said... still looking for the attacks on success.

your delusion is in this fantasy that walmart is a symbol of "success" when it isn't. it's a symbol of corporate welfare, destruction of communities, the driving down of wages and the destruction of middle class upward mobility.

so i'd suggest you try again.... this time without the delusional thinking.

How disappointing.....

...just typical Liberal talking points and run-and-hide.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You have only one problem...people who READ.

The NYT article is not an attack, it presents a balanced view.

The NY Sun article is an attack...

You're welcome.

Let's clear the decks: you were always, and will continue to be, a dunce.

Case in point: "The NYT article is not an attack, it presents a balanced view."



Now for the truth:


1. "the New York Times — ostensibly, at least, more of a straight-down-the-middle outlet than Rolling Stone — about the Walton Family Foundation and what the Times called “its many tentacles.”


And...



2. "...the article goes on to explain that the foundation, backed by members of the family that founded Walmart, “has helped fuel some of the fastest growing, and most divisive, trends in public education — including teacher evaluations based on student test scores and publicly funded vouchers for students to attend private schools.”

Calling an idea “divisive” can be a way for a reporter and an editor to signal that they don’t like it. So is the practice, seen in the Times article, of announcing that the subject of an article has “no apologies.”
Waltons Derided by N.Y. Times As Its Own School Charity Fails - The New York Sun


In simplest terms, how about you adding this to your next job resume: "I get my tentacles into all sorts of places they don't belong, and take pride in being divisive. Nor will I ever apologize...no matter what!!!!"

Actually, in your case, it might well be 'a balance view.'
Moron.




You are simply one of those parents who can never see malignance, hatefullness, in their own children....in this case the NYTimes.


I suspect it is a character trait of yours, as well.
Bet you've heard that a bunch.

World English Dictionary
divisive (dɪˈvaɪsɪv)

— adj
1. causing or tending to cause disagreement or dissension

The NYT article is not an attack, it presents a balanced view.

The NY Sun article is an attack...

AGAIN...you're welcome.

So....you'd agree to include this in your job applications?

"In simplest terms, how about you adding this to your next job resume:
"I get my tentacles into all sorts of places they don't belong, and take pride in being divisive. Nor will I ever apologize...no matter what!!!!"


Only an imbecile would do so.....

...oh....right.....


...never mind.

 

[Bfgrn]

Let's clear the decks: you were always, and will continue to be, a dunce.

Case in point: "The NYT article is not an attack, it presents a balanced view."



Now for the truth:


1. "the New York Times — ostensibly, at least, more of a straight-down-the-middle outlet than Rolling Stone — about the Walton Family Foundation and what the Times called “its many tentacles.”


And...



2. "...the article goes on to explain that the foundation, backed by members of the family that founded Walmart, “has helped fuel some of the fastest growing, and most divisive, trends in public education — including teacher evaluations based on student test scores and publicly funded vouchers for students to attend private schools.”

Calling an idea “divisive” can be a way for a reporter and an editor to signal that they don’t like it. So is the practice, seen in the Times article, of announcing that the subject of an article has “no apologies.”
Waltons Derided by N.Y. Times As Its Own School Charity Fails - The New York Sun


In simplest terms, how about you adding this to your next job resume: "I get my tentacles into all sorts of places they don't belong, and take pride in being divisive. Nor will I ever apologize...no matter what!!!!"

Actually, in your case, it might well be 'a balance view.'
Moron.




You are simply one of those parents who can never see malignance, hatefullness, in their own children....in this case the NYTimes.


I suspect it is a character trait of yours, as well.
Bet you've heard that a bunch.

World English Dictionary
divisive (dɪˈvaɪsɪv)

— adj
1. causing or tending to cause disagreement or dissension

The NYT article is not an attack, it presents a balanced view.

The NY Sun article is an attack...

AGAIN...you're welcome.

So....you'd agree to include this in your job applications?

"In simplest terms, how about you adding this to your next job resume:
"I get my tentacles into all sorts of places they don't belong, and take pride in being divisive. Nor will I ever apologize...no matter what!!!!"


Only an imbecile would do so.....

...oh....right.....


...never mind.

You being totally wrong has brought about desperation. Now you are adding your own adjectives and inventing phrases that don't exist in the balanced NYT article.

 

[PoliticalChic]

World English Dictionary
divisive (dɪˈvaɪsɪv)

— adj
1. causing or tending to cause disagreement or dissension

The NYT article is not an attack, it presents a balanced view.

The NY Sun article is an attack...

AGAIN...you're welcome.

So....you'd agree to include this in your job applications?

"In simplest terms, how about you adding this to your next job resume:
"I get my tentacles into all sorts of places they don't belong, and take pride in being divisive. Nor will I ever apologize...no matter what!!!!"


Only an imbecile would do so.....

...oh....right.....


...never mind.

You being totally wrong has brought about desperation. Now you are adding your own adjectives and inventing phrases that don't exist in the balanced NYT article.

1. "....inventing phrases that don't exist in the balanced NYT article."

'Tentacles'.....'divisive'.....'refused to apologize'.....all from the NYTimes article.

NYTimes is about as balanced as you are....and, I'm sure, there is medical evidence to the contrary.



Good to see you still accepting my addition to your resume.....
"I get my tentacles into all sorts of places they don't belong, and take pride in being divisive. Nor will I ever apologize...no matter what!!!!"

You're down wit' dat.....aren't you?





2. "You being totally wrong....."

I'm never wrong. I once thought I was wrong, turns out, I was mistaken.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Watch me skewer you again:

"The average Walmart "associate," Wake Up Walmart reports, makes $11.75 an hour. That's $20,744 per year. Those wages are slightly below the national average for retail employees, which is $12.04 an hour.

... these wages are far above minimum wage of $7.25 an hour. They also aren't THAT FAR below the national retail average (only 2.5% below). In a two-earner household, moreover, these wages would produce a household income of $40,000+, which, in some areas of the country, is comfortably middle-class. Walmart offers benefits to some of its employees, as well as store discounts and profit-sharing plans." Walmart Employs 1% Of America. Should It Be Forced To Pay Its Employees More? - Business Insider

I made 30,000 a year in industry - transportation to be precise, but industrially related, IN 1988. That plus full health benefits, pension benefits, vacation, sick days.

That was a fairly common wage around here back then. I was 'just' a clerk, too.

Those jobs are rare now. Walmart-type jobs have replaced them. Why that seems to give you so much glee and satisfaction is truly a mystery.

Wow.....were you overpaid!



"Those jobs are rare now. Walmart-type jobs have replaced them."


"Observe any hiring center for a new Walmart and you will see thousands of individuals eager to become a Walmart associate. Many already have jobs at fast food restaurants, supermarkets, or other retail stores.... aptly summarizes the sentiments of many applicants: “They are huge, so I know there is a huge amount of opportunity.”
Why Do 1.4 Million Americans Work At Walmart, With Many More Trying To? - Forbes




Busted again, huh?

The fact that Americans are desperate for jobs proves my point, not yours. I'm not surprised however that you don't grasp that.

You know how many people applied for that 'overpaid' job I got back in those days?

Fifteen.

 

[Wry Catcher]

it's simply hilarious to witness a left-winger pretending to care about the taxpayer. these are the same pandering for votes fools that scream at the top of their lungs when the level of food stamps and other aid is questioned; all while insisting how much better things are now.

idiots and hypocrites

In my experience there are few or no "left wingers" who post on the USMB. The word leftist and term left winger are used as pejoratives to describe anyone who doesn't support the dogma most self described 'conservatives' hold dear.

If one supports gun control, equal rights for all citizens, Roe v. Wade, opposes tax schemes to further enrich the wealthy, campaign finance reform, the PPACA and government agencies which protect the food we eat, the water we drink, the air we breath, the drugs we take they must be a communist, socialist, Marxist, statist monster.

Look at the new posts on any day, generally there is at least one posted by one of the local racists, one by a constitutional 'scholar', one from the Ministry of Truth rewriting history and several parroting the latest "Breaking News" broadcast that day on the Conspiracy Channel = Fox News. None of which are substantive and many are irrational rants by fools and liars.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I made 30,000 a year in industry - transportation to be precise, but industrially related, IN 1988. That plus full health benefits, pension benefits, vacation, sick days.

That was a fairly common wage around here back then. I was 'just' a clerk, too.

Those jobs are rare now. Walmart-type jobs have replaced them. Why that seems to give you so much glee and satisfaction is truly a mystery.

Wow.....were you overpaid!



"Those jobs are rare now. Walmart-type jobs have replaced them."


"Observe any hiring center for a new Walmart and you will see thousands of individuals eager to become a Walmart associate. Many already have jobs at fast food restaurants, supermarkets, or other retail stores.... aptly summarizes the sentiments of many applicants: “They are huge, so I know there is a huge amount of opportunity.”
Why Do 1.4 Million Americans Work At Walmart, With Many More Trying To? - Forbes




Busted again, huh?

The fact that Americans are desperate for jobs proves my point, not yours. I'm not surprised however that you don't grasp that.

You know how many people applied for that 'overpaid' job I got back in those days?

Fifteen.

You need a job commensurate with your constellation of skills....

....too bad Eli Whitney invented that darn cotton gin.

 

[PoliticalChic]

it's simply hilarious to witness a left-winger pretending to care about the taxpayer. these are the same pandering for votes fools that scream at the top of their lungs when the level of food stamps and other aid is questioned; all while insisting how much better things are now.

idiots and hypocrites

In my experience there are few or no "left wingers" who post on the USMB. The word leftist and term left winger are used as pejoratives to describe anyone who doesn't support the dogma most self described 'conservatives' hold dear.

If one supports gun control, equal rights for all citizens, Roe v. Wade, opposes tax schemes to further enrich the wealthy, campaign finance reform, the PPACA and government agencies which protect the food we eat, the water we drink, the air we breath, the drugs we take they must be a communist, socialist, Marxist, statist monster.

Look at the new posts on any day, generally there is at least one posted by one of the local racists, one by a constitutional 'scholar', one from the Ministry of Truth rewriting history and several parroting the latest "Breaking News" broadcast that day on the Conspiracy Channel = Fox News. None of which are substantive and many are irrational rants by fools and liars.

"I can’t prove you are a Communist. But when I see a bird that quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, has feathers and webbed feet and associates with ducks—I’m certainly going to assume that he is a duck."
Sentinel, John (September 29, 1946). "Communist Expose The Case of the Duck". Milwaukee (WI) Sentinel.



Did you just quack?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Wow.....were you overpaid!



"Those jobs are rare now. Walmart-type jobs have replaced them."


"Observe any hiring center for a new Walmart and you will see thousands of individuals eager to become a Walmart associate. Many already have jobs at fast food restaurants, supermarkets, or other retail stores.... aptly summarizes the sentiments of many applicants: “They are huge, so I know there is a huge amount of opportunity.”
Why Do 1.4 Million Americans Work At Walmart, With Many More Trying To? - Forbes




Busted again, huh?

The fact that Americans are desperate for jobs proves my point, not yours. I'm not surprised however that you don't grasp that.

You know how many people applied for that 'overpaid' job I got back in those days?

Fifteen.

You need a job commensurate with your constellation of skills....

....too bad Eli Whitney invented that darn cotton gin.

You mean unlike YOU, who, because you have no job, have fulfilled that measure perfectly...

btw, instead of dodging the argument you just lost, don't you want to try to contest the fact that long lines for low paying jobs such as those at Walmart indicate a dire need for work,

as opposed to indicating some sort of positive indication of the quality of the jobs?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The fact that Americans are desperate for jobs proves my point, not yours. I'm not surprised however that you don't grasp that.

You know how many people applied for that 'overpaid' job I got back in those days?

Fifteen.

You need a job commensurate with your constellation of skills....

....too bad Eli Whitney invented that darn cotton gin.

You mean unlike YOU, who, because you have no job, have fulfilled that measure perfectly...

btw, instead of dodging the argument you just lost, don't you want to try to contest the fact that long lines for low paying jobs such as those at Walmart indicate a dire need for work,

as opposed to indicating some sort of positive indication of the quality of the jobs?

I work at Teller-Morrow Automotive Repair, in Charming, California.

 

[bedowin62]

The fact that Americans are desperate for jobs proves my point, not yours. I'm not surprised however that you don't grasp that.

You know how many people applied for that 'overpaid' job I got back in those days?

Fifteen.

You need a job commensurate with your constellation of skills....

....too bad Eli Whitney invented that darn cotton gin.

You mean unlike YOU, who, because you have no job, have fulfilled that measure perfectly...

btw, instead of dodging the argument you just lost, don't you want to try to contest the fact that long lines for low paying jobs such as those at Walmart indicate a dire need for work,

as opposed to indicating some sort of positive indication of the quality of the jobs?

silly left-wing idiot;

you admitted there is a dire need for work.
that destroys the left-wing argument that things are so much better now.
it also tells you obama isnt creating jobs at all; and IF job openings are available it is for low-paying jobs

good one idiot; and you losers are so hateful to WalMart

great job; show hatred and animosity to one of the only people hiring AT ALL in the tough obama years!

 

[NYcarbineer]

You need a job commensurate with your constellation of skills....

....too bad Eli Whitney invented that darn cotton gin.

You mean unlike YOU, who, because you have no job, have fulfilled that measure perfectly...

btw, instead of dodging the argument you just lost, don't you want to try to contest the fact that long lines for low paying jobs such as those at Walmart indicate a dire need for work,

as opposed to indicating some sort of positive indication of the quality of the jobs?

silly left-wing idiot;

you admitted there is a dire need for work.
that destroys the left-wing argument that things are so much better now.
it also tells you obama isnt creating jobs at all; and IF job openings are available it is for low-paying jobs

good one idiot; and you losers are so hateful to WalMart

great job; show hatred and animosity to one of the only people hiring AT ALL in the tough obama years!

I asked before so here's your chance. Tell us why Obama is to blame for the 30 year de-industrialization of America that led to American workers having to line up by the hundreds for shit jobs at Walmart.

Please be specific.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You need a job commensurate with your constellation of skills....

....too bad Eli Whitney invented that darn cotton gin.

You mean unlike YOU, who, because you have no job, have fulfilled that measure perfectly...

btw, instead of dodging the argument you just lost, don't you want to try to contest the fact that long lines for low paying jobs such as those at Walmart indicate a dire need for work,

as opposed to indicating some sort of positive indication of the quality of the jobs?

silly left-wing idiot;

you admitted there is a dire need for work.
that destroys the left-wing argument that things are so much better now.
it also tells you obama isnt creating jobs at all; and IF job openings are available it is for low-paying jobs

good one idiot; and you losers are so hateful to WalMart

great job; show hatred and animosity to one of the only people hiring AT ALL in the tough obama years!

You need to be arguing with PoliticalChic, not me. She's the one saying that all the people trying to get jobs at Walmart is why the country is doing so well.

She's praising the so-called Obama economy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You mean unlike YOU, who, because you have no job, have fulfilled that measure perfectly...

btw, instead of dodging the argument you just lost, don't you want to try to contest the fact that long lines for low paying jobs such as those at Walmart indicate a dire need for work,

as opposed to indicating some sort of positive indication of the quality of the jobs?

silly left-wing idiot;

you admitted there is a dire need for work.
that destroys the left-wing argument that things are so much better now.
it also tells you obama isnt creating jobs at all; and IF job openings are available it is for low-paying jobs

good one idiot; and you losers are so hateful to WalMart

great job; show hatred and animosity to one of the only people hiring AT ALL in the tough obama years!

I asked before so here's your chance. Tell us why Obama is to blame for the 30 year de-industrialization of America that led to American workers having to line up by the hundreds for shit jobs at Walmart.

Please be specific.

Easy.


Look at the results of the policies this wind-bag has instituted:



1. "Incomes Have Dropped Twice as Much During the 'Recovery' as During the Recession
. ...the Census Bureau's Current Population Survey ....indicate that the real (inflation-adjusted) median annual household income in America has fallen by 4.4 percent during the "recovery," after having fallen by 1.8 during the recession.
Incomes Have Dropped Twice as Much During the 'Recovery' as During the Recession | The Weekly Standard


2. ... in today’s recovery — the slowest in the modern era going back to 1947 — private capital investment has lagged badly. ... so has the jobs situation, with 92 million dropping out of the workforce altogether. A labor-participation rate of 62.8% and an employment-to-population rate of 58% are historic lows indicative of the anemic jobs recovery. Big Business Swings Behind a Mantra of Growth - The New York Sun


Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:20





In Frazer's "The Golden Bough: A Study in Magic and Religion," he explains how primitive societies relied on their leader to intermediate with the gods, and obtain good weather, etc.
(The book served as an important cornerstone of "Apocalypse, Now.")


In modern society an astute voter expects the elected leader to be competent, to have effective policies to better the nation.

Clearly, Obama votes are hardly astute voters.
Raise your paw.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You mean unlike YOU, who, because you have no job, have fulfilled that measure perfectly...

btw, instead of dodging the argument you just lost, don't you want to try to contest the fact that long lines for low paying jobs such as those at Walmart indicate a dire need for work,

as opposed to indicating some sort of positive indication of the quality of the jobs?

silly left-wing idiot;

you admitted there is a dire need for work.
that destroys the left-wing argument that things are so much better now.
it also tells you obama isnt creating jobs at all; and IF job openings are available it is for low-paying jobs

good one idiot; and you losers are so hateful to WalMart

great job; show hatred and animosity to one of the only people hiring AT ALL in the tough obama years!

You need to be arguing with PoliticalChic, not me. She's the one saying that all the people trying to get jobs at Walmart is why the country is doing so well.

She's praising the so-called Obama economy.

Wow...another shocker: a Liberal lying.

If you are going to be two faced, at least make one of them pretty.

 

[Wry Catcher]

it's simply hilarious to witness a left-winger pretending to care about the taxpayer. these are the same pandering for votes fools that scream at the top of their lungs when the level of food stamps and other aid is questioned; all while insisting how much better things are now.

idiots and hypocrites

In my experience there are few or no "left wingers" who post on the USMB. The word leftist and term left winger are used as pejoratives to describe anyone who doesn't support the dogma most self described 'conservatives' hold dear.

If one supports gun control, equal rights for all citizens, Roe v. Wade, opposes tax schemes to further enrich the wealthy, campaign finance reform, the PPACA and government agencies which protect the food we eat, the water we drink, the air we breath, the drugs we take they must be a communist, socialist, Marxist, statist monster.

Look at the new posts on any day, generally there is at least one posted by one of the local racists, one by a constitutional 'scholar', one from the Ministry of Truth rewriting history and several parroting the latest "Breaking News" broadcast that day on the Conspiracy Channel = Fox News. None of which are substantive and many are irrational rants by fools and liars.

"I can’t prove you are a Communist. But when I see a bird that quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, has feathers and webbed feet and associates with ducks—I’m certainly going to assume that he is a duck."
Sentinel, John (September 29, 1946). "Communist Expose The Case of the Duck". Milwaukee (WI) Sentinel.

Did you just quack?

A fowl ad hominem, classic PC.

You did note that I didn't leave you out; I do know how to appeal to narcissists. For those not in the know, PC works for the Ministry of Truth, she spends her days researching little know authors who have a unique perspective on history, one which starts with the conclusion and works backward to support their claim.

Iconoclasts they are not, they, like PC, are desperate for attention. They can be forgiven, for they work for money; PC, as do all parrots, works for crackers (the praise of those USMB members who are crackers).