Seven people found shot to death inside Texas home during Dallas Cowboys party

[Tommy Tainant]

British domestic disputes rarely end up with a body count. You people are third world savages.

 

[BoSoxGal]

British domestic disputes rarely end up with a body count. You people are third world savages.

That's a bit unfair . . .


to third world savages!

Seriously, though - America has a significant violence problem, which begins in the home and carries over into the workplace and the streets. Having hundreds of millions of privately owned firearms in the mix is a recipe for continued mass slaughter of innocents.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

British domestic disputes rarely end up with a body count. You people are third world savages.

That's a bit unfair . . .


to third world savages!

Seriously, though - America has a significant violence problem, which begins in the home and carries over into the workplace and the streets. Having hundreds of millions of privately owned firearms in the mix is a recipe for continued mass slaughter of innocents.

Its pretty shocking but even more shocking is that it has passed almost without comment on here. I guess that its just the price of "freedom".
More people died in that house than have been shot and killed in the UK all year.
Of course the UK is "falling apart".

 

[Divine Wind]

British domestic disputes rarely end up with a body count. You people are third world savages.

That's a bit unfair . . .


to third world savages!

Seriously, though - America has a significant violence problem, which begins in the home and carries over into the workplace and the streets. Having hundreds of millions of privately owned firearms in the mix is a recipe for continued mass slaughter of innocents.

The Automobile is responsible for more homicides than guns in America. If you want to save lives, ban cars.....and fast food restaurants.

The top 10 leading causes of death in the United States
Nearly 75 percent of all deaths in the United States are attributed to just 10 causes, with the top three of these accounting for over 50 percent of all deaths. Over the last 5 years, the main causes of death in the U.S. have remained fairly consistent.

The top 10 leading causes of death in the U.S.:

• Heart disease.
• Cancer (malignant neoplasms)
• Chronic lower respiratory disease.
• Accidents (unintentional injuries)
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases)
• Alzheimer's disease.
• Diabetes.
• Influenza and pneumonia.

 

[2aguy]

British domestic disputes rarely end up with a body count. You people are third world savages.

That's a bit unfair . . .


to third world savages!

Seriously, though - America has a significant violence problem, which begins in the home and carries over into the workplace and the streets. Having hundreds of millions of privately owned firearms in the mix is a recipe for continued mass slaughter of innocents.

Its pretty shocking but even more shocking is that it has passed almost without comment on here. I guess that its just the price of "freedom".
More people died in that house than have been shot and killed in the UK all year.
Of course the UK is "falling apart".

Britain is getting there........their gun crime is up all over Britain..and your violence rates are through the roof.....and despite this shooting.......our gun murder rates are down 49%....

Also...Americans use guns 1,500,000 times ahead to stop crimes like this.....you guys simply suffer....

 

[Divine Wind]

British domestic disputes rarely end up with a body count. You people are third world savages.

Socialists are fools. BTW, this is what I'm going to do with Hillary's new book. Ya never know when some socialist scum try to rob the house!

 

[2aguy]

British domestic disputes rarely end up with a body count. You people are third world savages.

That's a bit unfair . . .


to third world savages!

Seriously, though - America has a significant violence problem, which begins in the home and carries over into the workplace and the streets. Having hundreds of millions of privately owned firearms in the mix is a recipe for continued mass slaughter of innocents.

No......not even close.......we went from 200 million guns to close to 600 million guns....from 4.7 million people carrying guns to over 16.3 million.....and our gun mirder rate has gone down 49%......our gun crime rate went down 75%.....our violent crime rate went down 72%.....so the truth, the facts and reality show you are wrong.....

Britain banned and confiscated guns..and now their gun crime rate isn't going up.......again...you are just wrong...

 

[2aguy]

Remember...up to the moment he started shooting people, the shooter was just another good person owning a gun.

Wrong......those who commit murder......90% of them have long histories of crime and violence, usually going back to their teen years.....if you look at this guys history you are going to find Lots of police contact, violence and threats of violence...this guy did not just snap and do this....

 

[bodecea]

British domestic disputes rarely end up with a body count. You people are third world savages.

No...it's just our way. You Europeans just don't get it.

 

[bodecea]

Remember...up to the moment he started shooting people, the shooter was just another good person owning a gun.

Wrong......those who commit murder......90% of them have long histories of crime and violence, usually going back to their teen years.....if you look at this guys history you are going to find Lots of police contact, violence and threats of violence...this guy did not just snap and do this....

Go right ahead and prove that.

 

[Divine Wind]

British domestic disputes rarely end up with a body count. You people are third world savages.

No...it's just our way. You Europeans just don't get it.

Exactly, which is why my ancestors left that fucking place. All those who miss it should go back.

 

[BoSoxGal]

Remember...up to the moment he started shooting people, the shooter was just another good person owning a gun.

Wrong......those who commit murder......90% of them have long histories of crime and violence, usually going back to their teen years.....if you look at this guys history you are going to find Lots of police contact, violence and threats of violence...this guy did not just snap and do this....

As regards mass killers and domestic violence murders, I believe you'd find that assertion is incorrect.

 

[Vandalshandle]

No need to be upset about this. I am sure that the shooter was a well organized militia.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Must have been some party. Almost sorry I missed it.

Damn, exactly what I as thinking.

I gotta hang out more when I visit back home next time.

 

[JimBowie1958]

That's tragic and troubling. Considering it is Texas, not one other person was armed? Lost life because of a relationship gone sour.

You might not believe this, but most people don't carry a gun when they go to someone's house to watch football- even in Texas.

Most adult males I knew in Texas always had a gun on them, legal or not, party or not.

But your right as most people are children and women.

 

[2aguy]

Remember...up to the moment he started shooting people, the shooter was just another good person owning a gun.

Wrong......those who commit murder......90% of them have long histories of crime and violence, usually going back to their teen years.....if you look at this guys history you are going to find Lots of police contact, violence and threats of violence...this guy did not just snap and do this....

As regards mass killers and domestic violence murders, I believe you'd find that assertion is incorrect.

Mass shooters you are correct...their first crime is the mass shooting...that is why registering guns, and background checks have no bearing on mass public shootings....that is why the number is 90% and not 100%.

Domestic abusers who commit murder have long histories of violence and more than likely prior criminal records......they are not normal guys who suddenly use a gun to off the wife.......

 

[2aguy]

British domestic disputes rarely end up with a body count. You people are third world savages.

And yet....after banning and confiscating guns.......

Man kills wife and children & shoots himself | Daily Mail Online

A father shot dead his wife and two young children before turning the gun on himself.





Peter Denyer is under-stood to have been suffering from depression and may have had financial worries.

Last night, after a shotgun was recovered from the family home in a quiet suburban street in Harrow, North-West London, detectives said they were not looking for anyone else in connection with the deaths.

'It is an appalling tragedy,' said a police source. 'It appears the man had been depressed and concerned about money matters.

'He appears to have gunned down his wife and young children and then shot himself. 'He had not been in the best of health recently and this may have been on his mind. He was clearly in a terrible state to have done such a thing.'



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[BoSoxGal]

Remember...up to the moment he started shooting people, the shooter was just another good person owning a gun.

Wrong......those who commit murder......90% of them have long histories of crime and violence, usually going back to their teen years.....if you look at this guys history you are going to find Lots of police contact, violence and threats of violence...this guy did not just snap and do this....

As regards mass killers and domestic violence murders, I believe you'd find that assertion is incorrect.

Mass shooters you are correct...their first crime is the mass shooting...that is why registering guns, and background checks have no bearing on mass public shootings....that is why the number is 90% and not 100%.

Domestic abusers who commit murder have long histories of violence and more than likely prior criminal records......they are not normal guys who suddenly use a gun to off the wife.......

Where are you getting that bullshit opinion?

Mine comes from 20 years working as a domestic violence victim's advocate, legal advocate, and criminal defense/prosecuting attorney - and from hundreds of hours of DV training in all those roles, presented by Battered Women's Project, NCADV, NDAA, APA, and the Feds through VAWA training.

Men (and much more rarely, women) who murder their partners do not usually have a prior criminal history of violent offenses, and very often are described by nearly all who know them as having snapped, because if there has been prior violence, it is often only known to the victim - again, 70% of domestic violence goes unreported.

Domestic murderers are very different from murderers who kill strangers or persons known to them but not by intimate relationship.

Here's just one article about a study that confirms my assertion, there are tons of stats available from the various sources I mentioned above.
Study suggests method for predicting men who may kill their spouses

Don't bother coming back with the same bullshit assertion unless you can dig up a reliable data source substantiating your claim. (Hint: you can't.)

 

[2aguy]

Remember...up to the moment he started shooting people, the shooter was just another good person owning a gun.

Wrong......those who commit murder......90% of them have long histories of crime and violence, usually going back to their teen years.....if you look at this guys history you are going to find Lots of police contact, violence and threats of violence...this guy did not just snap and do this....

As regards mass killers and domestic violence murders, I believe you'd find that assertion is incorrect.

Mass shooters you are correct...their first crime is the mass shooting...that is why registering guns, and background checks have no bearing on mass public shootings....that is why the number is 90% and not 100%.

Domestic abusers who commit murder have long histories of violence and more than likely prior criminal records......they are not normal guys who suddenly use a gun to off the wife.......

Where are you getting that bullshit opinion?

Mine comes from 20 years working as a domestic violence victim's advocate, legal advocate, and criminal defense/prosecuting attorney - and from hundreds of hours of DV training in all those roles, presented by Battered Women's Project, NCADV, NDAA, APA, and the Feds through VAWA training.

Men (and much more rarely, women) who murder their partners do not usually have a prior criminal history of violent offenses, and very often are described by nearly all who know them as having snapped, because if there has been prior violence, it is often only known to the victim - again, 70% of domestic violence goes unreported.

Domestic murderers are very different from murderers who kill strangers or persons known to them but not by intimate relationship.

Here's just one article about a study that confirms my assertion, there are tons of stats available from the various sources I mentioned above.
Study suggests method for predicting men who may kill their spouses

Don't bother coming back with the same bullshit assertion unless you can dig up a reliable data source substantiating your claim. (Hint: you can't.)

Dip shit....

Public Health and Gun Control --- A Review (Part II: Gun Violence and Constitutional Issues) | Hacienda Publishing


Another favorite view of the gun control, public health establishment is the myth propounded by Dr. Mark Rosenberg, former head of the NCIPC of the CDC, who has written: "Most of the perpetrators of violence are not criminals by trade or profession. Indeed, in the area of domestic violence, most of the perpetrators are never accused of any crime. The victims and perpetrators are ourselves --- ordinary citizens, students, professionals, and even public health workers."(6)

That statement is contradicted by available data, government data. The fact is that the typical murderer has had a prior criminal history of at least six years with four felony arrests in his record before he finally commits murder.


(17) The FBI statistics reveal that 75 percent of all violent crimes for any locality are committed by six percent of hardened criminals and repeat offenders.(18)


Less than 2 percent of crimes committed with firearms are carried out by licensed (e.g., concealed carry permit holders) law-abiding citizens.(11)

Violent crimes continue to be a problem in the inner cities with gangs involved in the drug trade. Crimes in rural areas for both blacks and whites, despite the preponderance of guns in this setting, remain low.(11,19)



Gun availability does not cause crime. Prohibitionist government policies and gun control (rather than crime control) exacerbates the problem by making it more difficult for law-abiding citizens to defend themselves, their families, and their property. In fact, there was a modest increase in both homicide and suicide after prohibition and passage of the Gun Control Act of 1968.(20)

 

[2aguy]

Remember...up to the moment he started shooting people, the shooter was just another good person owning a gun.

Wrong......those who commit murder......90% of them have long histories of crime and violence, usually going back to their teen years.....if you look at this guys history you are going to find Lots of police contact, violence and threats of violence...this guy did not just snap and do this....

As regards mass killers and domestic violence murders, I believe you'd find that assertion is incorrect.

Mass shooters you are correct...their first crime is the mass shooting...that is why registering guns, and background checks have no bearing on mass public shootings....that is why the number is 90% and not 100%.

Domestic abusers who commit murder have long histories of violence and more than likely prior criminal records......they are not normal guys who suddenly use a gun to off the wife.......

Where are you getting that bullshit opinion?

Mine comes from 20 years working as a domestic violence victim's advocate, legal advocate, and criminal defense/prosecuting attorney - and from hundreds of hours of DV training in all those roles, presented by Battered Women's Project, NCADV, NDAA, APA, and the Feds through VAWA training.

Men (and much more rarely, women) who murder their partners do not usually have a prior criminal history of violent offenses, and very often are described by nearly all who know them as having snapped, because if there has been prior violence, it is often only known to the victim - again, 70% of domestic violence goes unreported.

Domestic murderers are very different from murderers who kill strangers or persons known to them but not by intimate relationship.

Here's just one article about a study that confirms my assertion, there are tons of stats available from the various sources I mentioned above.
Study suggests method for predicting men who may kill their spouses

Don't bother coming back with the same bullshit assertion unless you can dig up a reliable data source substantiating your claim. (Hint: you can't.)

Dumb shit....

An Elusive Picture of Violent Men Who Kill Mates

Virtually all men who kill their wives have assaulted them at least once in the year before the murder, data show. Yet of the men who severely batter their partners -- close to two million a year -- only a tiny fraction kill them.

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The figures for marital violence are from what is still considered the most definitive study, a 1985 random national survey of 6,002 households selected to be representative of the United States.

These rates for violence are likely to underestimate the actual level of wife battery, if only because some couples are reluctant to admit violence, researchers say.


"The vast majority of men -- 90 percent or more -- who kill their wives are among those men who have been most abusive to their wives," said Dr. Richard Gelles, a sociologist at the University of Rhode Island, who conducted the study.


"Hindsight is always easy. If I know a man murdered his wife, I can look back and see what factors, like drug use and intense abuse, might have culminated in the murder."


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Such men, who have a history of extreme violence with their wives, fit one of two psychological patterns, according to work by Dr. Amy Holtzworth-Munroe, a psychologist at Indiana University. One type is men who become extremely jealous and obsessed by fears that their partner will leave them; the trigger for violence is some sign of abandonment.