Israel is losing US support – even among Republicans

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

What is the most key out of this would be young Republicans. There has been a substantial swing in this key group.

And this could explain why the Netanyahu government is on a bloodthirsty rampage in Gaza and Lebanon. They are trying to secure the greater Israel project perhaps or they’re trying to get away with as much damage as possible now because they see the writing on the wall….that in the near future the American government will actually be representative of the people and will not support Israel no matter what.


For the Israeli people … it should be obvious get rid of the Netanyahu government.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

 

[forkup]

What is the most key out of this would be young Republicans. There has been a substantial swing in this key group.

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And this could explain why the Netanyahu government is on a bloodthirsty rampage in Gaza and Lebanon. They are trying to secure the greater Israel project perhaps or they’re trying to get away with as much damage as possible now because they see the writing on the wall….that in the near future the American government will actually be representative of the people and will not support Israel no matter what.


For the Israeli people … it should be obvious get rid of the Netanyahu government.

I think Israel has made a miscalculation here.

They probably figured that if they could get the US to attack Iran, decapitate the government. They would either succeed in toppling the regime, or bog down the US into a war with Iran. Either way they would weaken their most dangerous foe.

What they failed to consider is the second order effect. Namely that the MAGA crowd would try to shift the blame on them when economic fallout occured.

It's a sign of the time. Genocide is okay, making the great leader look bad is not.

 

[Mac1958]

I think Israel has made a miscalculation here.

They probably figured that if they could get the US to attack Iran, decapitate the government. They would either succeed in toppling the regime, or bog down the US into a war with Iran. Either way they would weaken their most dangerous foe.

What they failed to consider is the second order effect. Namely that the MAGA crowd would try to shift the blame on them when economic fallout occured.

It's a sign of the time. Genocide is okay, making the great leader look bad is not.

It would be a great irony if this ugly period somehow re-awakened America's decency. Maybe enough Americans just need to look at all of this and conclude that enough is enough.

 

[August West]

I think Israel has made a miscalculation here.

They probably figured that if they could get the US to attack Iran, decapitate the government. They would either succeed in toppling the regime, or bog down the US into a war with Iran. Either way they would weaken their most dangerous foe.

What they failed to consider is the second order effect. Namely that the MAGA crowd would try to shift the blame on them when economic fallout occured.

It's a sign of the time. Genocide is okay, making the great leader look bad is not.

My former MAGA friend is a member of a Klan Klavern where they think Derek Chauvin will get out of jail due to George Floyd`s record of arrests. In other words, white cops should be allowed to murder Blacks and then check their rap sheet. This former teacher would be cool with Genocide.

 

[forkup]

It would be a great irony if this ugly period somehow re-awakened America's decency. Maybe enough Americans just need to look at all of this and conclude that enough is enough.

I doubt it. As I said. They didn't all of a sudden woke up to the idea that Israel is the bad guy. It's not moral outrage that drives it.

It's that the realization that Trump did something that can't be deflected from by the usual methods, or blaming the usual people. They are simply calculating that blaming Israel is their only option.

 

[gipper]

I doubt it. As I said. They didn't all of a sudden woke up to the idea that Israel is the bad guy. It's not moral outrage that drives it.

It's that the realization that Trump did something that can't be deflected from by the usual methods, or blaming the usual people. They are simply calculating that blaming Israel is their only option.

I suspect nothing will change. After all, since when have politicians done what the people want? They know they can fool most of the people all the time. Just as Trump has done.

The problem is both parties are owned by Zionist Neocon billionaires. Nothing will be done to change this. Hence, nothing will change.

 

[forkup]

I suspect nothing will change. After all, since when have politicians done what the people want? They know they can fool most of the people all the time. Just as Trump has done.

The problem is both parties are owned by Zionist Neocon billionaires. Nothing will be done to change this. Hence, nothing will change.

Oh Mac1958 I forget this part of MAGA. The actual anti-Semites.

 

[luiza]

Israel Strategy floundering very badly
Judge Napolitano and ex US Ambassador summarise very succinctly .

 

[gipper]

Oh Mac1958 I forget this part of MAGA. The actual anti-Semites.

Lol. So dumb and weak.

If you don’t know both crime families are controlled by Zionist billionaires, you don’t know much.

You may like your government controlled by Israel, but real Americans don’t.

 

[forkup]

Lol. So dumb and weak.

If you don’t know both crime families are controlled by Zionist billionaires, you don’t know much.

You may like your government controlled by Israel, but real Americans don’t.

I'm not American. I'm also not very interested in feeding conspiracies. This one is quite litterally about a thousand years old and has been at the core of some of the biggest crimes in history.

So good luck with that.

 

[gipper]

I'm not American. I'm also not very interested in feeding conspiracies. This one is quite litterally about a thousand years old.

So good luck with that.

Lol. If you knew anything, you’d know it’s not a conspiracy.

LMFAO.

 

[forkup]

Lol. If you knew anything, you’d know it’s not a conspiracy.

LMFAO.

As I said, good luck with that.

 

[gipper]

As I said, good luck with that.

So dumb.

Look up AIPAC. Find out how much money it gave to nearly every politician in Congress and dumb Don. Then, find out who funds AIPAC.

If you don’t know anything about AIPAC, then you must admit you know nothing about this topic.

Thinking all Jews are Zionists, is also dumb and lazy. Don’t be dumb and lazy.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I think Israel has made a miscalculation here.

They probably figured that if they could get the US to attack Iran, decapitate the government. They would either succeed in toppling the regime, or bog down the US into a war with Iran. Either way they would weaken their most dangerous foe.

What they failed to consider is the second order effect. Namely that the MAGA crowd would try to shift the blame on them when economic fallout occured.

It's a sign of the time. Genocide is okay, making the great leader look bad is not.

To be fair there are lots of Israelis who want to see Netanyahu go to jail. There is circumstantial evidence now showing that he has taken bribes for political influence…. Some Israelis also believe that their government allowed October 7 to occur.



The Israeli government has been accused by Jewish humanitarian groups, and Jewish journalists of carrying out a genocide in Gaza, where they say this is the worst civilian death ratio in recent modern warfare. Worse than Syria, Ukraine, Nigeria, Yemen you name it. Multiple things are correct at the same time Iran and Israel have a rivalry. Irans government is authoritarian and immoral. And the Israeli government is engaging in a brutal war in Gaza and now Lebanon.

Some Zionists correctly point out real antisemitism. Of course there’s plenty of antisemitism on the anti-Palestine side as Palestinians are Semites. Some Zionists also falsely accuse people of antisemitism. This is the case with accusations that Tucker Carlson is antisemitic …Tucker openly says he likes Jews and has nothing against Israel. He has even interviewed countless Israeli people. Carlson and a number of other mega popular conservative influencers specifically don’t like the killing of tens of thousands of women and children by the IDF.

A small portion of Democrats and Republicans are actually anti-Jewish….even on the US message board where some of them openly despise Jews. Otoh a much much larger portion of them simply do not want to support Israel because they believe their current government is immoral. And also they don’t want foreign powers influencing the US government and that includes anyone. AIPAC unlike practically any foreign lobbying group has given donations to and has an influence on most Democrats and Republicans in our Congress.

 

[forkup]

To be fair there are lots of Israelis who want to see Netanyahu go to jail. There is circumstantial evidence now showing that he has taken bribes for political influence….

The Israeli government has been accused by Jewish humanitarian groups, and Jewish journalists of carrying out a genocide in Gaza, where they say this is the worst civilian death ratio in recent modern warfare. Worse than Syria, Ukraine, Nigeria, Yemen you name it. Two things are correct at the same time Iran and Israel have a rivalry. And the Israeli government is engaging in a brutal war in Gaza and now Lebanon.

A small portion of Democrats and Republicans are actually anti-Jewish. You know this, even on the US message board where some of them openly despised Jews. Bought a much much much larger portion of them simply do not want to support Israel because they believe their current government is immoral. And also they don’t want foreign powers influencing the US government and that includes anyone. AIPAC unlike practically any foreign lobbying group has given donations to and has an influence on most Democrats and Republicans in our Congress.

When I say Israel, I mean it's government, not It's people.perse. I judge actions not labels.

I do want to push back a bit though, back to the point I was making.

You have the anti-Semites and they do exist in both parties to some extent, although I'd argue you'll be hard pressed to find the rethoric gipper uses in the Democratic party.

What I'm talking about is the political backlash this creates. A backlash that only exist in the Republican party.

Those on the left who didn't like what Israel was doing in Gaza are the exact same people who don't like what they're doing in Lebanon or Iran now.

For Republicans, or better yet, the MAGA crowd things have changed. And not because of a moral judgement, but political expediency.

 

[gipper]

When I say Israel, I mean it's government, not It's people.perse. I judge actions not labels.

I do want to push back a bit though, back to the point I was making.

You have the anti-Semites and they do exist in both parties to some extent, although I'd argue you'll be hard pressed to find the rethoric gipper uses in the Democratic party.

What I'm talking about is the political backlash this creates. A backlash that only exist in the Republican party.

Those on the left who didn't like what Israel was doing in Gaza are the exact same people who don't like what they're doing in Lebanon or Iran now.

For Republicans, or better yet, the MAGA crowd things have changed. And not because of a moral judgement, but political expediency.

Lol. You obviously know nothing about American politics.

Get informed before posting.

 

[gipper]

When I say Israel, I mean it's government, not It's people.perse. I judge actions not labels.

I do want to push back a bit though, back to the point I was making.

You have the anti-Semites and they do exist in both parties to some extent, although I'd argue you'll be hard pressed to find the rethoric gipper uses in the Democratic party.

What I'm talking about is the political backlash this creates. A backlash that only exist in the Republican party.

Those on the left who didn't like what Israel was doing in Gaza are the exact same people who don't like what they're doing in Lebanon or Iran now.

For Republicans, or better yet, the MAGA crowd things have changed. And not because of a moral judgement, but political expediency.

Don’t you agree?

 

[gipper]

When I say Israel, I mean it's government, not It's people.perse. I judge actions not labels.

I do want to push back a bit though, back to the point I was making.

You have the anti-Semites and they do exist in both parties to some extent, although I'd argue you'll be hard pressed to find the rethoric gipper uses in the Democratic party.

What I'm talking about is the political backlash this creates. A backlash that only exist in the Republican party.

Those on the left who didn't like what Israel was doing in Gaza are the exact same people who don't like what they're doing in Lebanon or Iran now.

For Republicans, or better yet, the MAGA crowd things have changed. And not because of a moral judgement, but political expediency.

Do you approve of this?

 

[Cassandro]

What is the most key out of this would be young Republicans. There has been a substantial swing in this key group.

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And this could explain why the Netanyahu government is on a bloodthirsty rampage in Gaza and Lebanon. They are trying to secure the greater Israel project perhaps or they’re trying to get away with as much damage as possible now because they see the writing on the wall….that in the near future the American government will actually be representative of the people and will not support Israel no matter what.


For the Israeli people … it should be obvious get rid of the Netanyahu government.

Every time I see a stupid title, it is followed by a stupid post.