Service Dogs In Restaurants

[Asclepias]

A couple of reasons. First of all the law wasnt the issue. You cant force someone to think your dog is clean. Second of all you dont confront someone in front of their child.

While I agree, to an extent, that confrontation in the presence of a child might be best avoided, how do you feel about the language and manner the mother demonstrated...in front of her child?

I didnt see the child in the video so my assumption is that she is outside the establishment. The level of anger tells me she suppressed it long enough to tell the child to go to the car or something.

That begs the question, how old is the child in question? One old enough to go to the car, or something, alone would indicate a child capable of understanding an explanation of the law. A younger child should probably have been escorted by an adult or older child. All that considered, I still see no reason why this woman became the screaming, abusive harpy she did. Really, no one is impressed by that kind of anger and abusive, raw language. The woman hurt her case far more with her response than if she had simply excused herself and left with the child, thereby snubbing the dog people.

I dont know. Old enough to walk to the car on her own I would guess. It doesnt matter what the child is capable of understanding. Who says its the dog owners right to explain anything to the child concerning the law? Who but the mother has the authority to make those decisions? I was thoroughly impressed by her refusal to not back down while the woman deflecting by talking about her husband being in the military and then later her instance on trying to tell her about a law that had nada to do with the issue. If i was there I am sure things would have been handled differently instead of the gang attack the white people made on her.

Yup, it is the mother's decision what her child should experience. And while a refusal to back down might be laudable in many instances, to sink to the level of expression that this woman did just damages her "case". Being abusive and profane are the last things you would want to become when confronted with someone you cannot agree with. A cold smile and an "excuse me, I have to go." would have been much more effective, perhaps even making the dog people appear foolish. As it was, she came across as a gross termagant with a filthy mouth. Her performance leaves bystanders asking whose behaviour is more harmful to a child. I failed to notice any white gang attack in the video presented.

What "case" and who told you it was damaged? She had every right to do what she did short of knocking the woman on her ass for confronting her. Could she have handled it differently? Of course but no one knows what the best way to handle it was for her. Maybe she was tired of whites attempting to force their beliefs on her?

 

[MizMolly]

Here's a vid of how one woman reacted .....



Here's a link to the restaurants FB response...
Kathy's Crab House & Family Restaurant

Here's a link to a news story about the incident....
Woman calls veteran's PTSD service dog 'nasty' in viral video


Thoughts?

Yes, they should be allowed. Anyone having issues with it should go elsewhere

 

[Asclepias]

Right there. We know it happened because both parties agreed she was confronted.

But there is no evidence of a child's presence.

Yes there is. The Black woman plainly says she was confronted in the presence of her child.

Okay, we have her assertion that the child was present. What does her being a "Black woman" have to do with anything?

That implies that your doubt a child was there is relevant to what the mom said. She was Black and being ganged up on by a troop of whites.

No, that implies that I saw no child present during the video presented. A "troop of whites" ganging up on a "Black" was as clearly evident as the alleged child. The woman who was raising holy hell didn't make any assertion that she was being attacked by whites, either. So, I'm not sure where you're getting your ideas.

So youre saying you didnt see all the white people yelling and screaming at her? Why does she have to make an assertion? I wouldnt say "a gang of white people are attacking me" when I am dealing with the situation either. it would be kind of pointless and sorta odd dont you think? I can say looking at the situation from a third party perspective that was what was happening.

 

[Tank]

When you confront blacks, you will get a great show

 

[OnePercenter]

She should have just left and not gave them her money if so offended. If it was some derp that just wandered in with their pet then a reaction is warranted, but not like this for a service dog.

I also have a question about 'service dog'. It isn't a seeing eye dog is it? Aren't these just friends for people? Do these animals have the same right of way as a seeing eye dog?

I'm more than a little unfamiliar with this whole area.

The way the article read it sounds as if it was more an emotional support dog due to the owner having PTSD. It says Delaware law doesn't cover emotional support pets, but it seems the restaurant owners had no issue with it being in there.

Delaware law doesn't have too.

Federal Service Dog Law: A Plain English Explanation

 

[Asclepias]

When you confront blacks, you will get a great show

How would you know? Youre scared of confronting Black people every since they would beat you up and take your lunch money.

 

[tycho1572]

When you confront blacks, you will get a great show

I cringe whenever I'm called to confront an angry black woman. lol

 

[Tank]

When you confront blacks, you will get a great show

How would you know? Youre scared of confronting Black people every since they would beat you up and take your lunch money.

Blacks don't do that, they are peaceful people

 

[Asclepias]

When you confront blacks, you will get a great show

I cringe whenever I'm called to confront an angry black woman. lol

You should. You are in the presence of royalty. However a simple bow will do.

 

[Asclepias]

When you confront blacks, you will get a great show

How would you know? Youre scared of confronting Black people every since they would beat you up and take your lunch money.

Blacks don't do that, they are peaceful people

You told me Black people beat you up and took your lunch money when you were a kid. Were you lying?

 

[The Professor]

What is a "service dog"?

dogs that have a SERVICE function for a person with a disability------like blindness or something
like that

Your definition of a service dog is far too restricted. Here is how a service dog is defined:


Service animals are defined as dogs that are individually trained to do work or perform tasks for people with disabilities. Examples of such work or tasks include guiding people who are blind, alerting people who are deaf, pulling a wheelchair, alerting and protecting a person who is having a seizure, reminding a person with mental illness to take prescribed medications, calming a person with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) during an anxiety attack, or performing other duties. Service animals are working animals, not pets. The work or task a dog has been trained to provide must be directly related to the person’s disability. Dogs whose sole function is to provide comfort or emotional support do not qualify as service animals under the ADA.

ADA Requirements: Service Animals

A dog that is trained to be able to calm an individual with PTSD in the event of an anxiety attack is a service dog. Here is a link that explains what other types of emotional/mental problems qualify as disabilities for which a service dog is allowed.

National Service Animal Registry

 

[tycho1572]

When you confront blacks, you will get a great show

I cringe whenever I'm called to confront an angry black woman. lol

You should. You are in the presence of royalty. However a simple bow will do.

It usually ends with a quick take down and restraints. lol

 

[Asclepias]

When you confront blacks, you will get a great show

I cringe whenever I'm called to confront an angry black woman. lol

You should. You are in the presence of royalty. However a simple bow will do.

It usually ends with a quick take down and restraints. lol

Yeah the cops would have attacked her without knowing what was going on.

 

[tycho1572]

When you confront blacks, you will get a great show

I cringe whenever I'm called to confront an angry black woman. lol

You should. You are in the presence of royalty. However a simple bow will do.

It usually ends with a quick take down and restraints. lol

Yeah the cops would have attacked her without knowing what was going on.

Things are different for them.

 

[Tank]

You told me Black people beat you up and took your lunch money when you were a kid. Were you lying?

Blacks are to smart and peaceful to act like that

 

[Asclepias]

When you confront blacks, you will get a great show

I cringe whenever I'm called to confront an angry black woman. lol

You should. You are in the presence of royalty. However a simple bow will do.

It usually ends with a quick take down and restraints. lol

Yeah the cops would have attacked her without knowing what was going on.

Things are different for them.

Like what?

 

[MaryL]

I agree with this woman, I don't want dogs in restaurants

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That vid makes me disgusted.Obviously this woman has no self control, overreacting like an insensitive child. Really? What world does she come from? We swim in world of bacteria, germs, cancerous particulates and human dander. Even in a restaurant. Her overbearing (if not racially stereotyped) need for control is appalling. What else can one say?

 

[Asclepias]

I agree with this woman, I don't want dogs in restaurants

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That vid makes me disgusted.Obviously this woman has no self control, overreacting like an insensitive child. Really? What world does she come from? We swim in world of bacteria, germs, cancerous particulates and human dander. Even in a restaurant. Her overbearing (if not racially stereotyped) need for control is appalling. What else can one say?

Are you talking about the white woman or the Black woman? The reason I ask is because the white woman confronted the Black woman when she was trying to leave. the white womans need to control the situation instead of ignoring the Black woman and just letting her leave is the problem. Like a typical white person you see it the other way around. No wonder whites and Blacks dont get along.

 

[MaryL]

I agree with this woman, I don't want dogs in restaurants

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That vid makes me disgusted.Obviously this woman has no self control, overreacting like an insensitive child. Really? What world does she come from? We swim in world of bacteria, germs, cancerous particulates and human dander. Even in a restaurant. Her overbearing (if not racially stereotyped) need for control is appalling. What else can one say?

Are you talking about the white woman or the Black woman? The reason I ask is because the white woman confronted the Black woman when she was trying to leave. the white womans need to control the situation instead of ignoring the Black woman and just letting her leave is the problem. Like a typical white person you see it the other way around. No wonder whites and Blacks dont get along.

We have quite a difference of perspective here. I can respectfully disagree. I own a dog, and eat, breath and exist with this animal. And it's not hurt me one iota. Your problem is psychological, not based on any real issue. Secondly, it is the black woman that has become a raving lunatic over trivial issue, AND this was a service dog we are talking about, not an mangy flea bitten rabid coyote some yahoo was dragging on end of a rope.

 

[K9Buck]

Blacks are to smart...

"too"