Gateway Drugs....

[Harpy Eagle]

The abuse of tobacco is declining naturally - or at least it is in educated societies

No it is not. It declined because the country taxed the fuck out of it.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

That doesent make it inaccessible to children

Making it illegal does not make it inaccessible to children either

 

[Mac-7]

Most of the cigarette smokers I know are blue collar guys who bust their ass supporting their families.

Who started smoking as teenagers no doubt

Its not easy to kick an addiction even when you know is killing you

 

[Mac-7]

No it is not. It declined because the country taxed the fuck out of it.

I already mentioned the high cost of tobacco products

Taxes are a major part of the cost

 

[braalian]

Who started smoking as teenagers no doubt

Its not easy to kick an addiction even when you know is killing you

That’s true of drinking or eating fast food too

taking care of overweight people who wind up with type 2 diabetes, CHF and renal failure cost society much more than smoking and drinking combined

But watch people lose their shit if unhealthy food were to be banned

Fast food and snack food should be taxed at the same levels tobacco is

 

[Mac-7]

Making it illegal does not make it inaccessible to children either

Believe it or not, some people do still obey the law

And children are still influenced by what they see their parents doing

 

[Mac-7]

That’s true of drinking or eating fast food too

taking care of overweight people who wind up with type 2 diabetes, CHF and renal failure cost society much more than smoking and drinking combined

But watch people lose their shit if unhealthy food were to be banned

Fast food and snack food should be taxed at the same levels tobacco is

So the more harmful habits and outright harmful addictions there are in society the better it is?

Of course not

Fewer are better

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Believe it or not, some people do still obey the law

and yet anyone that wants to get some pot can. I was getting it at the age of 16 when it was still highly illegal all over the country. Then again I was also buying booze by the boatload at the same time.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Sugar the gateway drug to ADHD, diabetes, hypertension, obesity, etc.

 

[braalian]

The whole concept of a “gateway” drug is pretty ridiculous

Most of the people I know smoke and drink and most of them have never turned to hard drugs

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The whole concept of a “gateway” drug is pretty ridiculous

Most of the people I know smoke and drink and most of them have never turned to hard drugs

Yep, that was pretty much the whole point of this thread.

 

[Blaster]

Is there any drug on the market that is more of a gateway drug than caffeine?

Every single person I know that drinks alcohol started drinking caffeine before they started on booze.

Every single person I know that uses marijuana started drinking caffeine before they started on marijuana.

Every single person I know that uses harder drugs started drinking caffeine before they started using harder drugs

Just when I thought your posts got stupid you outdo yourself with another dumb post.

 

[braalian]

Just when I thought your posts got stupid you outdo yourself with another dumb post.

Satire just kind of whooshes over your head, doesn’t it

 

[Blaster]

Satire just kind of whooshes over your head, doesn’t it

You call that satire? I call it stupidity.

 

[Blaster]

Fast food and snack food should be taxed at the same levels tobacco is.

Why?

 

[Blaster]

Is there any drug on the market that is more of a gateway drug than caffeine?

Every single person I know that drinks alcohol started drinking caffeine before they started on booze.

Every single person I know that uses marijuana started drinking caffeine before they started on marijuana.

Every single person I know that uses harder drugs started drinking caffeine before they started using harder drugs

Sugar is more addictive than caffeine.

 

[odanny]

Every single person I know that drinks alcohol started drinking caffeine before they started on booze.

Most of the people I drank beer with in the military as a 20 yr old never touched coffee, and soft drinks were not a big deal either.

Correlation does not imply causation.

 

[odanny]

Caffeine does not lower IQ, but marijuana does when children smoke it often enough

Jesus, dude, kids should not smoke anything, weed or cigarettes. Kids shouldn't drink beer either but they do, and most turn out okay and for those who develop problems as adults, the addiction is with alcohol, not weed.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Most of the people I drank beer with in the military as a 20 yr old never touched coffee, and soft drinks were not a big deal either.

Correlation does not imply causation.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Just when I thought your posts got stupid you outdo yourself with another dumb post.