Serious discussion on "Diversity, Equity, Inclusion"

[IM2]

Nah. We're fine with the way we are. You're the ones preaching that people are looking down on you. You know damn well that's not true.

We aren't preaching that. You racists make that claim. I don't know how many posts and threads have been made by whites here saying that. Time for whites like you to stop lying about what you do. Whites are the ones who have hired only based on race. DEI is a policy designed to stop that..

 

[IM2]

Coach Raheem Morris of the Atlanta Falcons would like a word with you.

It's funny how whites think they can bring up the name of one black person and it's supposed to validate their opinion. Since you want to do that, the fact that David Duke exists means whites are racists.

 

[IM2]

(and 8 other black NFL coaches)

There are 4 black head coaches in the NFL right now.

 

[Foxfyre]

Incorrect. Have you ever heard of the Rooney Rule? DEI is a major part of sports.

The Rooney Rule was to make sure there were no artificial barriers to minorities qualifying for head coach positions It required NFL teams must interview at least one minority candidate for those positions It did not require that any team MUST hire a minority nor should its standards be reduced in any way to qualify a minority candidate. They called it DEI but it wasn't DEI at least as practiced in the Biden Administration.

For sure those NFL head coaches who happen to be men of color, not one can be accused of being the DEI hire. They all had the best qualifications for their jobs at the time.

 

[TemplarKormac]

There are 4 black head coaches in the NFL right now.

NFL reaches 'major milestone' with record 9 minority head coaches in place for the 2024 season

The National Football League has urged teams for years to hire more minority head coaches. That mission finally seems to be paying off.

apnews.com

 

[TemplarKormac]

Is he gonna run or take the bait?

He instinctively takes the bait.

 

[TemplarKormac]

DEI is a policy designed to stop that..

By doing what? What does it stop? It doesn't ensure the people are competent, it only demands they be represented.

Diversity does not relate to effectiveness, equity does not contribute to effectiveness, and neither does inclusion.

 

[Marchimedes]

There are 4 black head coaches in the NFL right now.

How many black NFL owners?

A racist would ask.

You know, IM2, if Oprah bought the NY Giants and made some moves that worked I wouldn't care that she's not white. From what I can tell your entire online USMB persona revolves around your 'fact' that I (white), as white man would care. Do I, as a white man presume to tell you what you care about? That's a fat no so who the fu(k are you to tell me what I think?

In your world I have to be guilty of what you think I think for you to be correct.

And that, according to you is a 'fact.'

How would you feel if I spent post after post telling the world what a black man thinks?

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I'm suddenly bored.

Your turn.

 

[IM2]

NFL reaches 'major milestone' with record 9 minority head coaches in place for the 2024 season

The National Football League has urged teams for years to hire more minority head coaches. That mission finally seems to be paying off.

apnews.com

This is 2025 and there are 4 black head coaches in the NFL right now. Morris, Tomlin, Ryans, Bowles. Mayo and Pierce were fired. Canales is not black and that makes 5 non white head coaches.

 

[IM2]

By doing what? What does it stop? It doesn't ensure the people are competent, it only demands they be represented.

Diversity does not relate to effectiveness, equity does not contribute to effectiveness, and neither does inclusion.

It stops whites from hiring incompetent whites over more qualified people of color. Data shows that diverse companies are more sucessful, so yes it does equate to effectiveness. You cannot see your own racisn. You assume that whites are the only competent candidates.

 

[Marchimedes]

Exactly which means I get it and you're apparently not getting it. They were recruited because of their ability, not because of their skin color. The exact opposite of DEI. If they had been brown or white or Asian, they still would have been recruited because they were great athletes. Period.

You have it backwards, as you often do.

What the fu(k part of Foxfyre's deal is backwards? You have time, you can type this up.

No pressure. We are all very sure that was not bull$h!t.

Apply to Patrick Henry or Liberty.

I don't get it.

 

[IM2]

How many black NFL owners?

A racist would ask.

You know, IM2, if Oprah bought the NY Giants and made some moves that worked I wouldn't care that she's not white. From what I can tell your entire online USMB persona revolves around your 'fact' that I (white), as white man would care. Do I, as a white man presume to tell you what you care about? That's a fat no so who the fu(k are you to tell me what I think?

In your world I have to be guilty of what you think I think for you to be correct.

And that, according to you is a 'fact.'

How would you feel if I spent post after post telling the world what a black man thinks?

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I'm suddenly bored.

Your turn.

The racist argues that if DEI was normal then there wouldn't be as many blacks in the NFL or NBA. The fact you are in here exhibiting this behavior shows me that what you are saying in regards to Oprah is a load of BS.

If you spent your life being outnumbered 5:1 by blacks and were raised in a black centric society, educated in a back centric education system, taught black history, philospohy and socialized to live according to black peoples laws and mores in rder t survive, I would not feel a thing.

Your argument is based on a false equivaence. Whites and blacks have not had the same experience here, and whites outnumber blacks 4 or 5 to 1. Therefore we have more contact with whites than whites do with us. I doubt if you have ever spent years in places where you were the only white in a room full of blacks. I have been in that situation with whites.

You can stop crying because my personna is built upon having to read the racist bs from the whites in this forum.

 

[BluesLegend]

D.E.I. is D.E.A.D. but don't worry, Dems will come up with some other bat shit crazy nonsense to foam at the mouth about. They just have to figure out how to scam money off it first.

 

[Marchimedes]

It stops whites from hiring incompetent whites over more qualified people of color.

I just fu(king hired you.

Data shows that diverse companies are more sucessful,

I can't spell either. Sign up for spell check, then, $h!t gets underlined. You can't miss it.

Data shows that diverse companies are more sucessful,

If that were true you would have sourced it.

so yes it does equate to effectiveness. You cannot see your own racisn. You assume that whites are the only competent candidates.

Haven't we already seen this tonight? I'm horrible and as such I can't possibly understand this yet for some reason you know that I'm horrible so I should pay you reparations.

Or...

You are such a loser in life that I should give you cash. You should lead with that.

 

[IM2]

D.E.I. is D.E.A.D. but don't worry, Dems will come up with some other bat shit crazy nonsense to foam at the mouth about. They just have to figure out how to scam money off it first.

DEI will continue. Right-wing whites are not going to be allowed to return America to Jim Crow.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Foxfyre and Marchimedes are trying to redefine logic in this OP.

They have failed.

 

[Marchimedes]

I doubt if you have ever spent years in places where you were the only white in a room full of blacks.

Mid 2000's I spent a couple of years working for myself in the hood in St. Petersburg for black Gentlemen of questionable income installing alarms and cameras. I came highly recommended by other black Gentlemen of questionable income. I stayed in the hood. I well understand, IM2 that I ain't your average white boy. Thing is I'm fu(king cool. I've heard $h!t like "don't talk to my white boy" or "that mutha fu(ka is ten times smarter than you, shut up!" from my black customers. I've these stories in my horse thread. I've been the only white person for blocks in the hood.

I'm cool like that. The only thing my black customers cared about me was that I was more than competent at my job.

But then, IM2 you did say 'doubt.' Now that I've told you that with me it's the exact opposite of what you said there it's your turn.

 

[IM2]

A Study Finds That Diverse Companies Produce 19% More Revenue​

A recent study by the Boston Consulting Group (BCG) has found that diversity increases the bottom line for companies. The study found that "increasing the diversity of leadership teams leads to more and better innovation and improved financial performance." It looked at 1700 different companies across 8 different countries, with varying industries and company sizes. They have found that increasing diversity has a direct effect on the bottom line. Companies that have more diverse management teams have 19% higher revenue due to innovation.

A Study Finds That Diverse Companies Produce 19% More Revenue

The diversity of ideas, minds, experiences, and tastes is an integral part of being a human. It is what makes our world beautiful. However, diversity also has a practical function and an important one for businesses -- a study found that it adds tangible value to the bottom line.

www.forbes.com

How Diverse Leadership Teams Boost Innovation​

A recent BCG study suggests that increasing the diversity of leadership teams leads to more and better innovation and improved financial performance. In both developing and developed economies, companies with above-average diversity on their leadership teams report a greater payoff from innovation and higher EBIT margins.

How Diverse Leadership Teams Boost Innovation

Want to generate inventive new ideas that can win in the market? Build management teams comprising people with the widest possible range of backgrounds and perspectives.

www.bcg.com

 

[Marchimedes]

Foxfyre and Marchimedes are trying to redefine logic in this OP.

They have failed.

So you are just gonna announce $h!t and not back it up?

 

[Marchimedes]

It stops whites from hiring incompetent whites over more qualified people of color.

So now what are you going to do about non-whites hiring incompetent non-whites over more qualified whites?