Senator McCain Stands Up to Be the Parental Voice of the Senate

JimBowie1958

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I am not a john McCain fan, in fact I think he is a traitor, collaborator and corporate crony sell out.

But he has stepped up to remind US Senators of their obligation to the people of the US and our Republic in a great speech that might well go down as the 21st centuries version of the Gettysburg address.

Senator McCain, you have earned my respect, and my apology for being brash toward you in the past, though what I said was still true.

You have shown yourself to be the man with the best vision of what our Senate is supposed to be and can be and how it best can serve the American people.

Full text of John McCain's Senate floor speech: 'Let’s return to regular order'

“Mr. President:

“I’ve stood in this place many times and addressed as president many presiding officers. I have been so addressed when I have sat in that chair, as close as I will ever be to a presidency.

“It is an honorific we’re almost indifferent to, isn’t it. In truth, presiding over the Senate can be a nuisance, a bit of a ceremonial bore, and it is usually relegated to the more junior members of the majority.

“But as I stand here today – looking a little worse for wear I’m sure – I have a refreshed appreciation for the protocols and customs of this body, and for the other ninety-nine privileged souls who have been elected to this Senate.

“I have been a member of the United States Senate for thirty years. I had another long, if not as long, career before I arrived here, another profession that was profoundly rewarding, and in which I had experiences and friendships that I revere. But make no mistake, my service here is the most important job I have had in my life. And I am so grateful to the people of Arizona for the privilege – for the honor – of serving here and the opportunities it gives me to play a small role in the history of the country I love.

“I’ve known and admired men and women in the Senate who played much more than a small role in our history, true statesmen, giants of American politics. They came from both parties, and from various backgrounds. Their ambitions were frequently in conflict. They held different views on the issues of the day. And they often had very serious disagreements about how best to serve the national interest.

“But they knew that however sharp and heartfelt their disputes, however keen their ambitions, they had an obligation to work collaboratively to ensure the Senate discharged its constitutional responsibilities effectively. Our responsibilities are important, vitally important, to the continued success of our Republic. And our arcane rules and customs are deliberately intended to require broad cooperation to function well at all. The most revered members of this institution accepted the necessity of compromise in order to make incremental progress on solving America’s problems and to defend her from her adversaries.

“That principled mindset, and the service of our predecessors who possessed it, come to mind when I hear the Senate referred to as the world’s greatest deliberative body. I’m not sure we can claim that distinction with a straight face today.

“I’m sure it wasn’t always deserved in previous eras either. But I’m sure there have been times when it was, and I was privileged to witness some of those occasions.

“Our deliberations today – not just our debates, but the exercise of all our responsibilities – authorizing government policies, appropriating the funds to implement them, exercising our advice and consent role – are often lively and interesting. They can be sincere and principled. But they are more partisan, more tribal more of the time than any other time I remember. Our deliberations can still be important and useful, but I think we’d all agree they haven’t been overburdened by greatness lately. And right now they aren’t producing much for the American people.

“Both sides have let this happen. Let’s leave the history of who shot first to the historians. I suspect they’ll find we all conspired in our decline – either by deliberate actions or neglect. We’ve all played some role in it. Certainly I have. Sometimes, I’ve let my passion rule my reason. Sometimes, I made it harder to find common ground because of something harsh I said to a colleague. Sometimes, I wanted to win more for the sake of winning than to achieve a contested policy.

“Incremental progress, compromises that each side criticize but also accept, just plain muddling through to chip away at problems and keep our enemies from doing their worst isn’t glamorous or exciting. It doesn’t feel like a political triumph. But it’s usually the most we can expect from our system of government, operating in a country as diverse and quarrelsome and free as ours.

“Considering the injustice and cruelties inflicted by autocratic governments, and how corruptible human nature can be, the problem solving our system does make possible, the fitful progress it produces, and the liberty and justice it preserves, is a magnificent achievement.

“Our system doesn’t depend on our nobility. It accounts for our imperfections, and gives an order to our individual strivings that has helped make ours the most powerful and prosperous society on earth. It is our responsibility to preserve that, even when it requires us to do something less satisfying than ‘winning.’ Even when we must give a little to get a little. Even when our efforts manage just three yards and a cloud of dust, while critics on both sides denounce us for timidity, for our failure to ‘triumph.’

“I hope we can again rely on humility, on our need to cooperate, on our dependence on each other to learn how to trust each other again and by so doing better serve the people who elected us. Stop listening to the bombastic loudmouths on the radio and television and the Internet. To hell with them. They don’t want anything done for the public good. Our incapacity is their livelihood.

“Let’s trust each other. Let’s return to regular order. We’ve been spinning our wheels on too many important issues because we keep trying to find a way to win without help from across the aisle. That’s an approach that’s been employed by both sides, mandating legislation from the top down, without any support from the other side, with all the parliamentary maneuvers that requires.
Well, said Senator McCain, well said.
 
Is it possible for Democrats and Republicans to play nicely with each other now and serve the interests of the American people and FIX what is wrong with our health care system?
 
Is it possible for Democrats and Republicans to play nicely with each other now and serve the interests of the American people and FIX what is wrong with our health care system?

Democrats need to throw Obama under the bus, but I don't see that happening
 
That speech doesnt make up for his years of bullshit. WTF does that asshole know about "obligations to the people" in the senate?
I would bet my Harley that asshole didnt write one word of that speech
Why dont that dude go ponder how to arm terrorists some more in the privacy of his own home? Or try to give more illegals amnesty.
Scumbag
 
Sorry, McCain has had is fingers in too many shady things for me to ever respect him.

He needs to retire
Well he did shine like a beacon this afternoon.

Didn't see him and I'm not sorry I didn't. I don't trust him
His words were sterling, even if his actions are wanting.
Words are what counts! :disbelief:

Maybe the old fart had a come to Jesus moment when he found out he had cancer
 
That speech doesnt make up for his years of bullshit. WTF does that asshole know about "obligations to the people" in the senate?
I would bet my Harley that asshole didnt write one word of that speech
Why dont that dude go ponder how to arm terrorists some more in the privacy of his own home? Or try to give more illegals amnesty.
Scumbag
Stop listening to the bombastic loudmouths on the radio and television and the Internet. To hell with them. They don’t want anything done for the public good. Our incapacity is their livelihood.
 
That speech doesnt make up for his years of bullshit. WTF does that asshole know about "obligations to the people" in the senate?
I would bet my Harley that asshole didnt write one word of that speech
Why dont that dude go ponder how to arm terrorists some more in the privacy of his own home? Or try to give more illegals amnesty.
Scumbag
Why the fuck would anyone else write that speech for him? It's not like he'll be running in 2018.
 
That speech doesnt make up for his years of bullshit. WTF does that asshole know about "obligations to the people" in the senate?
I would bet my Harley that asshole didnt write one word of that speech
Why dont that dude go ponder how to arm terrorists some more in the privacy of his own home? Or try to give more illegals amnesty.
Scumbag
Stop listening to the bombastic loudmouths on the radio and television and the Internet. To hell with them. They don’t want anything done for the public good. Our incapacity is their livelihood.
Fuck him. He has the credibility of lena dunham
 
That speech doesnt make up for his years of bullshit. WTF does that asshole know about "obligations to the people" in the senate?
I would bet my Harley that asshole didnt write one word of that speech
Why dont that dude go ponder how to arm terrorists some more in the privacy of his own home? Or try to give more illegals amnesty.
Scumbag
Why the fuck would anyone else write that speech for him? It's not like he'll be running in 2018.
You think a guy that just had brain surgery made THAT speech? That asswipe couldnt talk like that 20 years ago, much less today.
 
I voted for the motion to proceed to allow debate to continue and amendments to be offered. I will not vote for the bill as it is today. It’s a shell of a bill right now.......Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)
 
I am not a john McCain fan, in fact I think he is a traitor, collaborator and corporate crony sell out.

But he has stepped up to remind US Senators of their obligation to the people of the US and our Republic in a great speech that might well go down as the 21st centuries version of the Gettysburg address.

Senator McCain, you have earned my respect, and my apology for being brash toward you in the past, though what I said was still true.

You have shown yourself to be the man with the best vision of what our Senate is supposed to be and can be and how it best can serve the American people.

Full text of John McCain's Senate floor speech: 'Let’s return to regular order'

“Mr. President:

“I’ve stood in this place many times and addressed as president many presiding officers. I have been so addressed when I have sat in that chair, as close as I will ever be to a presidency.

“It is an honorific we’re almost indifferent to, isn’t it. In truth, presiding over the Senate can be a nuisance, a bit of a ceremonial bore, and it is usually relegated to the more junior members of the majority.

“But as I stand here today – looking a little worse for wear I’m sure – I have a refreshed appreciation for the protocols and customs of this body, and for the other ninety-nine privileged souls who have been elected to this Senate.

“I have been a member of the United States Senate for thirty years. I had another long, if not as long, career before I arrived here, another profession that was profoundly rewarding, and in which I had experiences and friendships that I revere. But make no mistake, my service here is the most important job I have had in my life. And I am so grateful to the people of Arizona for the privilege – for the honor – of serving here and the opportunities it gives me to play a small role in the history of the country I love.

“I’ve known and admired men and women in the Senate who played much more than a small role in our history, true statesmen, giants of American politics. They came from both parties, and from various backgrounds. Their ambitions were frequently in conflict. They held different views on the issues of the day. And they often had very serious disagreements about how best to serve the national interest.

“But they knew that however sharp and heartfelt their disputes, however keen their ambitions, they had an obligation to work collaboratively to ensure the Senate discharged its constitutional responsibilities effectively. Our responsibilities are important, vitally important, to the continued success of our Republic. And our arcane rules and customs are deliberately intended to require broad cooperation to function well at all. The most revered members of this institution accepted the necessity of compromise in order to make incremental progress on solving America’s problems and to defend her from her adversaries.

“That principled mindset, and the service of our predecessors who possessed it, come to mind when I hear the Senate referred to as the world’s greatest deliberative body. I’m not sure we can claim that distinction with a straight face today.

“I’m sure it wasn’t always deserved in previous eras either. But I’m sure there have been times when it was, and I was privileged to witness some of those occasions.

“Our deliberations today – not just our debates, but the exercise of all our responsibilities – authorizing government policies, appropriating the funds to implement them, exercising our advice and consent role – are often lively and interesting. They can be sincere and principled. But they are more partisan, more tribal more of the time than any other time I remember. Our deliberations can still be important and useful, but I think we’d all agree they haven’t been overburdened by greatness lately. And right now they aren’t producing much for the American people.

“Both sides have let this happen. Let’s leave the history of who shot first to the historians. I suspect they’ll find we all conspired in our decline – either by deliberate actions or neglect. We’ve all played some role in it. Certainly I have. Sometimes, I’ve let my passion rule my reason. Sometimes, I made it harder to find common ground because of something harsh I said to a colleague. Sometimes, I wanted to win more for the sake of winning than to achieve a contested policy.

“Incremental progress, compromises that each side criticize but also accept, just plain muddling through to chip away at problems and keep our enemies from doing their worst isn’t glamorous or exciting. It doesn’t feel like a political triumph. But it’s usually the most we can expect from our system of government, operating in a country as diverse and quarrelsome and free as ours.

“Considering the injustice and cruelties inflicted by autocratic governments, and how corruptible human nature can be, the problem solving our system does make possible, the fitful progress it produces, and the liberty and justice it preserves, is a magnificent achievement.

“Our system doesn’t depend on our nobility. It accounts for our imperfections, and gives an order to our individual strivings that has helped make ours the most powerful and prosperous society on earth. It is our responsibility to preserve that, even when it requires us to do something less satisfying than ‘winning.’ Even when we must give a little to get a little. Even when our efforts manage just three yards and a cloud of dust, while critics on both sides denounce us for timidity, for our failure to ‘triumph.’

“I hope we can again rely on humility, on our need to cooperate, on our dependence on each other to learn how to trust each other again and by so doing better serve the people who elected us. Stop listening to the bombastic loudmouths on the radio and television and the Internet. To hell with them. They don’t want anything done for the public good. Our incapacity is their livelihood.

“Let’s trust each other. Let’s return to regular order. We’ve been spinning our wheels on too many important issues because we keep trying to find a way to win without help from across the aisle. That’s an approach that’s been employed by both sides, mandating legislation from the top down, without any support from the other side, with all the parliamentary maneuvers that requires.
Well, said Senator McCain, well said.

Same old tired calls for bipartisanship that we always hear from establishment cuckservatives, fuck that, we won, it's time for republicans to start acting like it!
 
The government is not the problem - we are.
Our government is an exact subtotal of what we put into it.
We have a divided nation, so we have a divided government.
Our division is uncompromising, neither side willing to even consider the other side has something to offer - so we get a government that refuses to work together, for if any democrat or republican reaches across and votes for something the other has proposed - their career is over.
Our unwillingness to challenge our own parties has laid out the red carpet inviting corruption and collusion with big money. And so BOTH sides of the aisle are thoroughly corrupt and all too happy to do the bidding of the elites.

Only we can change the government. They sure as hell won't change themselves.
 

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