Senator McCain Stands Up to Be the Parental Voice of the Senate

[TNHarley]

I cannot think of a single politician, ever, that I hated enough to rip to shreds during his swan song, when a long career is about to end in death.

I can think of about 475 more

 

[OldLady]

I cannot think of a single politician, ever, that I hated enough to rip to shreds during his swan song, when a long career is about to end in death.

I can think of about 475 more

Hate will consume you. Learn to let others have a different opinion without making it personal.

 

[JimBowie1958]

He did what HE thought was right.

I'm sure that Hinkley, Oswald and Boothe thought the same thing.

Bit of a stretch for an analogy isn't it?

No, the principle is the same, they thought that they were doing right.

 

[OldLady]

He did what HE thought was right.

I'm sure that Hinkley, Oswald and Boothe thought the same thing.

Bit of a stretch for an analogy isn't it?

No, the principle is the same, they thought that they were doing right.

Jim, they were assassins. McCain is a senator who felt aggressive war strategy was best for our country. The two are NOT at all the same.

 

[TNHarley]

I cannot think of a single politician, ever, that I hated enough to rip to shreds during his swan song, when a long career is about to end in death.

I can think of about 475 more

Hate will consume you. Learn to let others have a different opinion without making it personal.

How in the hell is needless war, greed and shitting on our constitution an acceptable opinion to have?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Jim, they were assassins. McCain is a senator who felt aggressive war strategy was best for our country. The two are NOT at all the same.

Obviously assassins are not the same as US Senators. The former kill their targets up close and personal, while Senators justpass bills and call for DoD to do their killing for them.

Principles of moral conduct are not subject to profession or ethnicity. If it is wrong to steal, cheat, lie and murder as a baker it is similarly wrong to do the same as a cop, doctor, lawyer or judge.

To justify something along the rhetorical lines of 'he did what he thinks was right' is to endorse a subjective standard of behavior that can be distorted into justifying everything from the rail barons of the 1800s, to the Corporate Crony Network of our times.

McCain was wrong for much of what he has done, regardless of whether he was trying to do the right thing or not.

 

[TNHarley]

He did what HE thought was right.

I'm sure that Hinkley, Oswald and Boothe thought the same thing.

Bit of a stretch for an analogy isn't it?

No, the principle is the same, they thought that they were doing right.

Jim, they were assassins. McCain is a senator who felt aggressive war strategy was best for our country. The two are NOT at all the same.

They thought they were doing what was good for the country
how many Americans died because of his neocon rhetoric? How many innocent lives all over the world?
If anything his analogy was in your favor.

 

[TNHarley]

Neocons think war is best for our country LOL
WTF OL sometimes you say retardedly stupid ass shit

 

[OldLady]

You two gentlemen are calling a man a murderer for having an aggressive military stance. He felt it was what would keep this country safest. He is not the only person who believes that. I'm not going to argue whether it was right or not, the things he thought. It doesn't matter. What mattered when Jim opened this thread was the call to work together with others to get a solution of some sort that would give everyone some satisfaction. Yet it seems neither of you are willing to let your grudges go because the vote did not go your way.
So keep thinking it over, there, Jim.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You two gentlemen are calling a man a murderer for having an aggressive military stance. He felt it was what would keep this country safest. He is not the only person who believes that. I'm not going to argue whether it was right or not, the things he thought. It doesn't matter. What mattered when Jim opened this thread was the call to work together with others to get a solution of some sort that would give everyone some satisfaction. Yet it seems neither of you are willing to let your grudges go because the vote did not go your way.
So keep thinking it over, there, Jim.

Well the point of the OP was that I can overlook McCains status as Alpha Chicken Hawk due to this wonderful speech.

That doesnt mean he still isnt Alpha Chicken Hawk.

 

[TNHarley]

You still don't get it smh
Glad to know innocent people getting bombed in a needless war is ok with you as longed hey act like they're rally care. And you act like you give a shit about people lol...
You are a govt stooge. People like you is how our over walks all over us

 

[busybee01]

John McCain was a war hero in the 60s. Since he entered Congress, he's been a traitor. Fuck him.

Fuck you.

 

[busybee01]

Congress straining at Republican gnats wile ignoring Hillary Clinton's hundreds of millions of USD solicited from the Russians as she agreed as Sec of State to allow a Russian company to purchase 25% of our national Uranium reserves is also absurdly partisan.

Why did you pretend to think McCain's speech was moving if you are going to continue posturing this way?

Letting Clinton get away with crime is not bipartisanship, OL.

So say you.

 

[Call Sign Chaos]

Same old tired calls for bipartisanship that we always hear from establishment cuckservatives, fuck that, we won, it's time for republicans to start acting like it!

That wont work, dude,

For Republicans to deliver on their promises and to also do their jobs as leaders in Congress they are going to have to reach across the aisle.

No they don't they need to employ the nuclear option.

 

[Snouter]

McCain is a Swamp Rat. That speech a council of Swamp Rats wrote for him was stupid. The reference to stop listening to talk radio was pathetic. McCain is a puppet of Kissinger and Lieberman and other pieces of shit. Notice the writers of that speech do not have that neocon clown comment about representing American citizens .

 

[JimBowie1958]

For Republicans to deliver on their promises and to also do their jobs as leaders in Congress they are going to have to reach across the aisle.

No they don't they need to employ the nuclear option.

The problem with the nuclear option is that, when the political tides turn against you, then the opposing MAJORITY can then nuke you too.

But I do agree, the filibuster is an antiquated piece of do-nothing tradition. We should get rid of it and let the political chips fall where they may.

But since McConnel is not going to drop it, the subject is moot for the moment.

 

[Call Sign Chaos]

For Republicans to deliver on their promises and to also do their jobs as leaders in Congress they are going to have to reach across the aisle.

No they don't they need to employ the nuclear option.

The problem with the nuclear option is that, when the political tides turn against you, then the opposing MAJORITY can then nuke you too.

The Dems have already used it that's the point, Reid already ended the tradition, that pandoras box was opened years ago, the Republicans need to stop playing nice because the opposition sure as hell doesn't.

 

[mamooth]

So, McCain, after saying "I will not vote for the bill as it is today.", voted for the bill as it was that day.

That is, after his speech about how bipartisan he was, he did what he's always done through his entire career. He voted exactly the way the Republican leadership told him to vote.

McCain has never been a "maverick". He's an obedient party hack who pretends to be a maverick.

 

[rightwinger]

Stop listening to the bombastic loudmouths on the radio and television and the Internet. To hell with them. They don’t want anything done for the public good. Our incapacity is their livelihood.

BINGO

 

[JimBowie1958]

For Republicans to deliver on their promises and to also do their jobs as leaders in Congress they are going to have to reach across the aisle.

No they don't they need to employ the nuclear option.

The problem with the nuclear option is that, when the political tides turn against you, then the opposing MAJORITY can then nuke you too.

The Dems have already used it that's the point, Reid already ended the tradition, that pandoras box was opened years ago, the Republicans need to stop playing nice because the opposition sure as hell doesn't.

Reid only introduced the Nuclear Option for appointment confirmation.

SCOTUS nominees and legislation were not included, so McConnel should sweep the rest of it away too.