Seems the board leftists are big time rooting for Ukraine.

[JimH52]

What you should really know about Ukraine | MR Online

Russia’s demand that NATO cease its expansion to Russia’s borders is viewed as such an obviously impossible demand that it can only be understood as a pretext to invade Ukraine.

mronline.org

The U.S. Helped Overthrow Ukraine’s Elected President​

During the tug of war between the U.S. and Russia, the Americans were engaged in a destabilization campaign against the Yanukovych government. The campaign culminated with the overthrow of the elected president in the Maidan Revolution—also known as the Maidan Coup—named for the Kiev square that hosted the bulk of the protests.

As political turmoil engulfed the country in the leadup to 2014, the U.S. was fueling anti-government sentiment through mechanisms like USAID and National Endowment for Democracy (NED), just as they had done in 2004. In December 2013, Nuland, assistant secretary of state for European affairs and a long-time regime change advocate, said that the U.S. government had spent $5 billion promoting “democracy” in Ukraine since 1991. The money went toward supporting “senior officials in the Ukraine government…[members of] the business community as well as opposition civil society” who agree with U.S. goals.

Washington Used Nazis to Help Overthrow the Government​

The Washington-backed opposition that toppled the government was fueled by far-right and openly Nazi elements like the Right Sector. One far-right group that grew out of the protests was the Azov Battalion, a paramilitary militia of neo-Nazi extremists. Their leaders made up the vanguard of the anti-Yanukovych protests, and even spoke at opposition events in the Maidan alongside U.S. regime change advocates like McCain and Nuland.

After the violent coup, these groups were later incorporated into the Ukrainian armed forces—the same armed forces that the U.S. has now given $2.5 billion. Though Congress technically restricted money from flowing to the Azov Battalion in 2018, trainers on the ground say there’s no mechanism to actually enforce the provision. Since the coup, the Ukrainian nationalist forces have been responsible for a wide variety of atrocities in the counterinsurgency war.

There’s a Lot More to the Crimean Annexation​

The facts above give more context to Russian actions following the coup, and ought to counter the caricature of a Russian Empire bent on expansion. From Russia’s point of view, a longtime adversary had successfully overthrown a neighboring government using violent far-right extremists.

The Crimean peninsula, which was part of Russia until it was transferred to the Ukrainian Soviet Republic in 1954, is home to one of two Russian naval bases with access to the Black and Mediterranean seas, one of history’s most important maritime theaters. A Crimea controlled by a U.S.-backed Ukrainian government was a major threat to Russian naval access.

The peninsula—82% of whose households speak Russian, and only 2% mainly Ukrainian—held a plebiscite in March 2014 on whether or not they should join Russia, or remain under the new Ukrainian government. The Pro-Russia camp won with 95% of the vote. The UN General Assembly, led by the U.S., voted to ignore the referendum results on the grounds that it was contrary to Ukraine’s constitution. This same constitution had been set aside to oust President Yanukovych a month earlier.

The U.S. Wouldn’t Tolerate What Russia Is Expected to Accept​

Much has been written about the Russian buildup on the Ukraine border. Reports of the buildup have been intensified by U.S. intelligence officials’ warnings of an attack. Media often echo the claim of an inevitable invasion. The Washington Post editorial board (1/24/22) wrote that “Putin can—and will—use any measures the United States and its NATO allies either take or refrain from taking as a pretext for aggression.”

But Putin has been clear about a path to de-escalation. His main demand has been for direct negotiations to end the expansion of the hostile military alliance to his borders. He announced, “We have made it clear that NATO’s move to the east is unacceptable,” and that “the United States is standing with missiles on our doorstep.” Putin asked, “How would the Americans react if missiles were placed at the border with Canada or Mexico?”

In corporate media coverage, no one bothers to ask this important question. Instead, the assumption is that Putin ought to tolerate a hostile military alliance directly across its border. The U.S., it seems, is the only country allowed to have a sphere of influence.

Putin propaganda on USMB....go peddle your lies somewhere else.

 

[BS Filter]

Why would I beat my wife?

Why would you claim conservatives are supporting Russia in this war?

 

[odanny]

Why are conservatives not rooting for Ukraine?

Trump + FOX News

 

[BS Filter]

Trump + FOX News

Lie.

 

[petro]

Putin propaganda on USMB....go peddle your lies somewhere else.

How about you address the content?
What is historically inaccurate?
Can you even pick out Ukraine on a map?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Why would you claim conservatives are supporting Russia in this war?

Read the thread and you will find all sorts of folks from the right are not supporting Ukraine.

There are almost no conservatives on this forum that I have found so far.

 

[JimH52]

How about you address the content?
What is historically inaccurate?
Can you even pick out Ukraine on a map?

Stop posting RT propaganda! We know who you are! Ukraine wants to be free....not under the thumb of Putin.

 

[JimH52]

Read the thread and you will find all sorts of folks from the right are not supporting Ukraine.

There are almost no conservatives on this forum that I have found so far.

MAGA parrots trump....he called the murderer Putin a " genius." MAGA is now in Putin's camp.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Here is how you can help.....go join their Army. They are taking anyone they can get.


Foreign nationals, especially those with experience in the military, can also consider going as far as to join the Armed Forces or Ukraine’s National Guard as active service members.

This is legal under Ukrainian law, which enables the military to sign official service contracts with foreign nationals or stateless persons.

According to the law, this option is open to physically and mentally fit foreigners with no criminal record, between 18 and 40 years of age, who can apply for positions of enlisted soldiers or non-commissioned soldiers. Under certain exemptions, the age limit can be extended to 60.

Want to help Ukraine's military as a foreigner? Here's what you can do

As Ukraine's allies in the West send military aid to bolster the country's defenses against the possible Russian military escalation, there are ways for individual foreigners to help Ukraine, too. Here's how foreign citizens can participate in defending Ukraine against Russia, should there be...

kyivindependent.com

10% for the Big Guy.

Ukrainian cash got Biden elected

 

[mudwhistle]

U.S. Army

Schofield Barracks
Ft. Carson
Ft. Hood

What was your MOS?

 

[mudwhistle]

Yup. Fuck Russia.

Why are conservatives not rooting for Ukraine?

What gave you that impression?
CNN (COMMUNIST NEWS NETWORK)?
PMSNBC?

 

[Missourian]

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And the winners is....

 

[Missourian]

My basic was at the now closed Ft. McClellan, AL.

My AIT was Ft. Eustis, VA.

I thought folks who did BCT at McClellan did AIT at McClellan...the MPs and the NBC specialists.

What was Ft Eustis... Communications?

 

[Orangecat]

I am on the side of those innocent civilians being killed trying to defend their country. They did not do anything to deserve this. They are just like you and I. But you all lack even the tiniest bit of empathy.
What a terrible way to live life, to allow your politics to deprive you of any actual human emotions.
I truly pity you

If only everyone else cared as much as you do.
You virtue signalers are pathetic.
Boo-fucking-hoo.

 

[Missourian]

USMC
7041
MOS School Meridian, Ms
Camp Hansen, Okinawa
MCAS Futenma, Okinawa
MCAS Beaufort, SC
Camp Foster, Okinawa
MCAS Yuma, Az
RS St Louis, Mo
MCAS New River, NC.

How the hell did you end up aligning with the left?

 

[Oddball]

How the hell did you end up aligning with the left?

Why would you claim conservatives are supporting Russia in this war?

Because he's an establishment prop player, not-at-all-cleverly disguised as a lolbertarian.

 

[Missourian]

I am on the side of those innocent civilians being killed trying to defend their country. They did not do anything to deserve this. They are just like you and I.

I agree... it sucks.

 

[petro]

Stop posting RT propaganda! We know who you are! Ukraine wants to be free....not under the thumb of Putin.

What a simpleton.



Silly me actually expecting you to make an actual point or try to refute the information I provided.

How exactly does questioning our involvement supporting questionable forces make me a Putin stooge?
There was a time when the left used to do exactly that.

 

[Orangecat]

Is it ok for one nation to mount an armed offensive attack on another sovereign nation, and if so under what conditions is it acceptable?

"Acceptable"?
How about "Is it any of our business"?
Both are subjective calls.
The first is just a narrative by virtue signalers eager to shift focus away from the disaster in the White House.
The second is the logical position for pragmatic adults.

 

[Orangecat]

So the push of aggressive NATO expansion right up to the Russian frontier has nothing to do with it?


You’re not allowed to talk about the known US/NATO/Ukraine actions which experts have been warning for many years would lead us to where we’re at. You’re only allowed to say Putin attacked Ukraine completely unprovoked, in a vacuum, solely because he is evil and hates freedom

Civilized Nations Kill With Sanctions And Proxy Armies: Notes From The Edge Of The Narrative Matrix

Listen to a reading of this article: ❖ Pouring more weapons into Ukraine is not how you save lives; you save lives by negotiating a ceasefire. Pouring more weapons into Ukraine is how you create a …

caitlinjohnstone.com

Useful idiots need to be shallow thinkers and emotional reactionaries to be useful.