SECOND Nurse tests positive for Ebola in Dallas

[thereisnospoon]

Stranger than fiction?

"Outbreak"....

 

[thereisnospoon]

Some of you are seriously stupid.

Number of deaths for leading causes of death:

* Heart disease: 596,577
* Cancer: 576,691
* Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 142,943
* Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 128,932
* Accidents (unintentional injuries): 126,438
* Alzheimer's disease: 84,974
* Diabetes: 73,831
* Influenza and Pneumonia: 53,826
* Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 45,591
* Intentional self-harm (suicide): 39,518

When we get into the hundreds or thousands wake me and I'll give a shit about ebola.

Jesus - I simply can NOT believe that you didn't list "gun deaths" as well.......You remind me of Obama - lead from behind. No one is saying that there is an outbreak you idiot. But left unchecked (which obviously the CDC is doing) it could get nasty. Be proactive for once in your life, not reactive, fool. It doesn't work well for Obama and it work work for you, either.

That's what Obama supporters do. When they can't hide behind the facts that expose Obama, they try and degrade the message of importance. Just wait until these nurses go on strike and refuse to treat patients

-Geaux

The largest nurse's union is demanding full PPE for every one of it's members.
Now, i oppose unions for what they are and what they do, but on this one i stand with the nurses.
The spokeswoman for the chapter that represents the Dallas area nurses was asked about PPE for the nurses. She said she did not know if any of the nurses had them.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Sounds like it might be a good idea to quarantine the entire hospital.

“There was no advanced preparedness on what to do with the patient. There was no protocol. There was no system. The nurses were asked to call the infectious disease department” if they had questions, but that department didn't have answers either, the statement said. So nurses were essentially left to figure things out on their own as they dealt with “copious amounts” of highly contagious bodily fluids from the dying Duncan while they wore gloves with no wrist tape, flimsy gowns that did not cover their necks, and no surgical booties, the statement alleged.

“Hospital officials allowed nurses who interacted with Mr. Duncan to then continue normal patient-care duties,” potentially exposing others, it said.

^There is your breech of protocol. Hospital admin.

As much as I agree with your assessment, it is probably too late - there is no way of knowing (after the patient sat in the ER for 4 hours) exactly how many other patients, visitors and staff might have come into contact with the guy. Obviously then, there is no viable way to predict how many people (outside) that THOSE people might have come into contact AFTER leaving the Hospital and on and on and on (if at all). Additionally, the staff is badly equipped with paper gowns and little upper body protection to do much good. Again - it's easy as hell to be "proactive" AFTER the fact.

He should never been allowed to reach the US. There should have been a total travel ban direct or indirect to and from the so called hot spot countries.
Instead President Dither did his best to avoid the issue.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Sounds like it might be a good idea to quarantine the entire hospital.

“There was no advanced preparedness on what to do with the patient. There was no protocol. There was no system. The nurses were asked to call the infectious disease department” if they had questions, but that department didn't have answers either, the statement said. So nurses were essentially left to figure things out on their own as they dealt with “copious amounts” of highly contagious bodily fluids from the dying Duncan while they wore gloves with no wrist tape, flimsy gowns that did not cover their necks, and no surgical booties, the statement alleged.

“Hospital officials allowed nurses who interacted with Mr. Duncan to then continue normal patient-care duties,” potentially exposing others, it said.

^There is your breech of protocol. Hospital admin.

As much as I agree with your assessment, it is probably too late - there is no way of knowing (after the patient sat in the ER for 4 hours) exactly how many other patients, visitors and staff might have come into contact with the guy. Obviously then, there is no viable way to predict how many people (outside) that THOSE people might have come into contact AFTER leaving the Hospital and on and on and on (if at all). Additionally, the staff is badly equipped with paper gowns and little upper body protection to do much good. Again - it's easy as hell to be "proactive" AFTER the fact.

Maybe we should quarantine Texas, then. Or have the CDC take over the hospital industry as it is obvious that this hospital did not follow protocol for several days.

I agree the Hospital management bears some culpability here.
There should have been an immediate reaction by our government the moment those doctors caught Ebola.
BTW, of the 40 physicians of "doctors without borders", NINE have died from Ebola.

 

[thereisnospoon]

So right now we have 1 patient zero, and two 2nd generation cases among the hospital staff that worked around patient zero.

The next 48-72 hours will let us see how many more 2nd generation cases we are going to see. If we start seeing numbers above 5 or so, we now have an outbreak.

Wait until the initial 21 day period from the date patient Zero took that flight. Let's see if anyone shows symptoms.
Let's see if the US government allows the media to report it or makes a few "calls" to the executives of all the networks and other outlets.
Let's see if the Obama admin decides to use the broad powers it gave itself to place 'emergency' regulations on information traveling over the internet

 

[Jackson]

Some of you are seriously stupid.

Number of deaths for leading causes of death:

* Heart disease: 596,577
* Cancer: 576,691
* Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 142,943
* Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 128,932
* Accidents (unintentional injuries): 126,438
* Alzheimer's disease: 84,974
* Diabetes: 73,831
* Influenza and Pneumonia: 53,826
* Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 45,591
* Intentional self-harm (suicide): 39,518

When we get into the hundreds or thousands wake me and I'll give a shit about ebola.

First of all nearly all of the diseases you compare to are not contagious.
Second, Ebola is a new disease as far as being here in America. Naturally there is going to be a period early on where we will have a heightened sense of concern.

Why I DO find interesting is that Ebola has been around for 40 years in Africa. The US has NEVER had a case of Ebola on our soil. NEVER. A couple of Doctors get infected and we bring them here for treatment. Now? We are dealing with a deadly disease that is 70% deadly. In contrast, Influenza is 2% deadly.

Is it only me that finds that a little "strange'?

And someone in Africa didn't give a shit about Ebola either.

 

[Jackson]

So right now we have 1 patient zero, and two 2nd generation cases among the hospital staff that worked around patient zero.

The next 48-72 hours will let us see how many more 2nd generation cases we are going to see. If we start seeing numbers above 5 or so, we now have an outbreak.

Wait until the initial 21 day period from the date patient Zero took that flight. Let's see if anyone shows symptoms.
Let's see if the US government allows the media to report it or makes a few "calls" to the executives of all the networks and other outlets.
Let's see if the Obama admin decides to use the broad powers it gave itself to place 'emergency' regulations on information traveling over the internet

Wait until the initial 21 day period from the date patient Zero took that flight. Let's see if anyone shows symptoms.
Let's see if the US government allows the media to report it or makes a few "calls" to the executives of all the networks and other outlets.
Let's see if the Obama admin decides to use the broad powers it gave itself to place 'emergency' regulations on information traveling over the internet[/QUOTE]

We have Media crews in isolation, as well as nurses and people from flights to people in waiting rooms. Since Obama is again leading from behind, I find it certainly his style that he would place "emergency" regulations on information traveling over the internet and tv.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Sounds like it might be a good idea to quarantine the entire hospital.

“There was no advanced preparedness on what to do with the patient. There was no protocol. There was no system. The nurses were asked to call the infectious disease department” if they had questions, but that department didn't have answers either, the statement said. So nurses were essentially left to figure things out on their own as they dealt with “copious amounts” of highly contagious bodily fluids from the dying Duncan while they wore gloves with no wrist tape, flimsy gowns that did not cover their necks, and no surgical booties, the statement alleged.

“Hospital officials allowed nurses who interacted with Mr. Duncan to then continue normal patient-care duties,” potentially exposing others, it said.

^There is your breech of protocol. Hospital admin.

Have a question for you
In the very first sentence from your link it states
"There was no protocol. There was no system"
How can their be a breech in protocol; when their isn't a protocol in place for this?

They weren't following CDC protocol.

There was not one set up by the CDC according to your source, so how can they follow one?
After all it is your source

 

[Grandma]

I'm living in NE Ohio. Portage, Summit, And Cuyahoga Counties are good to go. Take your fearmongering and fuck off, we're all good here.

 

[Esmeralda]

So right now we have 1 patient zero, and two 2nd generation cases among the hospital staff that worked around patient zero.

The next 48-72 hours will let us see how many more 2nd generation cases we are going to see. If we start seeing numbers above 5 or so, we now have an outbreak.

Wait until the initial 21 day period from the date patient Zero took that flight. Let's see if anyone shows symptoms.
Let's see if the US government allows the media to report it or makes a few "calls" to the executives of all the networks and other outlets.
Let's see if the Obama admin decides to use the broad powers it gave itself to place 'emergency' regulations on information traveling over the internet

Wait until the initial 21 day period from the date patient Zero took that flight. Let's see if anyone shows symptoms.
Let's see if the US government allows the media to report it or makes a few "calls" to the executives of all the networks and other outlets.
Let's see if the Obama admin decides to use the broad powers it gave itself to place 'emergency' regulations on information traveling over the internet

We have Media crews in isolation, as well as nurses and people from flights to people in waiting rooms. Since Obama is again leading from behind, I find it certainly his style that he would place "emergency" regulations on information traveling over the internet and tv.

Does it occur to you that he doesn't want mass hysteria and mass panic? Such behavior and thinking is what we see illustrated in posts like yours.

 

[Esmeralda]

I'm living in NE Ohio. Portage, Summit, And Cuyahoga Counties are good to go. Take your fearmongering and fuck off, we're all good here.

Fear mongering is exactly what it is. I guess some people are not aware of the concept? They apparently don't have a very strong grasp of history.

Fear mongering (or scaremongering or scare tactics) is the use of fear to influence the opinions and actions of others towards some specific end. The feared object or subject is sometimes exaggerated, and the pattern of fear mongering is usually one of repetition, in order to continuously reinforce the intended effects of this tactic, sometimes in the form of a vicious circle.

Wiki

 

[Ravi]

Sounds like it might be a good idea to quarantine the entire hospital.

“There was no advanced preparedness on what to do with the patient. There was no protocol. There was no system. The nurses were asked to call the infectious disease department” if they had questions, but that department didn't have answers either, the statement said. So nurses were essentially left to figure things out on their own as they dealt with “copious amounts” of highly contagious bodily fluids from the dying Duncan while they wore gloves with no wrist tape, flimsy gowns that did not cover their necks, and no surgical booties, the statement alleged.

“Hospital officials allowed nurses who interacted with Mr. Duncan to then continue normal patient-care duties,” potentially exposing others, it said.

^There is your breech of protocol. Hospital admin.

Have a question for you
In the very first sentence from your link it states
"There was no protocol. There was no system"
How can their be a breech in protocol; when their isn't a protocol in place for this?

They weren't following CDC protocol.

There was not one set up by the CDC according to your source, so how can they follow one?
After all it is your source

My link didn't say that.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Sounds like it might be a good idea to quarantine the entire hospital.

“There was no advanced preparedness on what to do with the patient. There was no protocol. There was no system. The nurses were asked to call the infectious disease department” if they had questions, but that department didn't have answers either, the statement said. So nurses were essentially left to figure things out on their own as they dealt with “copious amounts” of highly contagious bodily fluids from the dying Duncan while they wore gloves with no wrist tape, flimsy gowns that did not cover their necks, and no surgical booties, the statement alleged.

“Hospital officials allowed nurses who interacted with Mr. Duncan to then continue normal patient-care duties,” potentially exposing others, it said.

^There is your breech of protocol. Hospital admin.

Have a question for you
In the very first sentence from your link it states
"There was no protocol. There was no system"
How can their be a breech in protocol; when their isn't a protocol in place for this?

They weren't following CDC protocol.

There was not one set up by the CDC according to your source, so how can they follow one?
After all it is your source

My link didn't say that.

Your post
"There was no protocol there was no system"

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Stranger than fiction?

"Outbreak"....

 

[Geaux4it]

Lets face it. Obama has completely failed this nation. Not to mention, he's like a grade a Asshole anyway. Wonder how those that voted for Obama sleep at night. Likely have to get liquored up to do it

-Geaux

 

[Rotagilla]

Fortunately for all of us, the professionals working on our behalf over at the CDC and at medical facilities nationwide are not politically motivated. They are going to contain this virus......as much as that disappoints you crazy fucks.

The CDC..not politically motivated? LMAO...
You need to do some more research...or better yet just say anything that comes into your head...that's easier..

 

[Rotagilla]

Sounds like it might be a good idea to quarantine the entire hospital.

“There was no advanced preparedness on what to do with the patient. There was no protocol. There was no system. The nurses were asked to call the infectious disease department” if they had questions, but that department didn't have answers either, the statement said. So nurses were essentially left to figure things out on their own as they dealt with “copious amounts” of highly contagious bodily fluids from the dying Duncan while they wore gloves with no wrist tape, flimsy gowns that did not cover their necks, and no surgical booties, the statement alleged.

“Hospital officials allowed nurses who interacted with Mr. Duncan to then continue normal patient-care duties,” potentially exposing others, it said.

^There is your breech of protocol. Hospital admin.

Quarantine the hospital....but leave the borders wide open...great plan...

 

[Rotagilla]

Props to the Mayor of Dallas. Didn't mention the president or politics a single time in his remarks about the disease this morning. He's focused on the problem....and solutions.

The press is now trying to catch the people holding the news conference in a "gotchya" because that is what members of the press get rewarded for in today's media.

Too bad.

Why would he mention Obama? The hospital didn't follow protocol. They shouldn't now be allowed to accept new patients.

We don't need any ebola patients in america. THAT is the breach of "protocol".

 

[Rotagilla]

Count on the media, the CDC sell out, or anyone else NOT telling us exactly how they contracted this disease. Remember folks, they tell us it is not an air borne illness. They tell us that conditions need to be specific for someone to contract it.

Coming from same group that said it is unlikely Ebola would get here (even though this guy came in exactly the way we conservatives said it would get here), and also claimed all of our hospitals are prepared to handle this. Hardly any of the hospitals are prepared btw. Hardly any of them. We already have a shortage for IVs.

Now, we will all just guess how these people contracted this disease. I told you all that it is highly contagious. The liars try to tell us it isn't. It is. These healthcare workers did not lick the guys face.

We still do not know how the cameraman contracted the disease, and notice how they are not telling us. Keep in mind, those cameramen are all taking specific precautions. They will not tell us how he got it. The doctors that contracted the disease that came here in special ambulances, they still have not told us how they contracted it.

We are suppose to believe they were sneezed on. Of course. It had to be, cause the CDC (the confirmed liar) has told us that that is not possible.

Meanwhile, he said ALL precautions need to be taken, and he in the same breath says stopping travel from that region is not necessary. The fundraiser in chief in the mean time is placating the stupid global warming morons and gay marriage while those types try and claim cancer is as dangerous as an incurable infectious disease.

The preppers it surely seems, are the ones that are ahead of the curve. What a fucking disaster the leftwingers have been to the human species. To the world.

— Duncan was kept in a non-isolated area of the emergency department for several hours, potentially exposing up to seven other patients to Ebola;

— Patients who may have been exposed to Duncan were kept in isolation only for a day before being moved to areas where there were other patients;

— Nurses treating Duncan were also caring for other patients in the hospital;

— Preparation for Ebola at the hospital amounted to little more than an optional seminar for staff;

— In the face of constantly shifting guidelines, nurses were allowed to follow whichever ones they chose.

"There was no advance preparedness on what to do with the patient, there was no protocol, there was no system," Burger said.

Dallas Nurses Cite Sloppy Conditions In Ebola Care

Quit being hysterical. The hospital obviously didn't follow protocol. The hospital should be quarantined and should not be allowed to accept any new patients. The CDC should take over the hospital and ensure that no one else is exposed.

The CDC?..who told us it couldn't get to america?..that CDC? LMAO...
The Centers for Disease Control Loses Its Grip Ricochet

There is only one way to prevent the spread of an epidemic, and that is quarantine.
No medical professional with any sense would suggest that we should admit individuals from Liberia to the United States at this time, and no medical professional worth his or her salt would say that we can test for the disease when the prospective visitor arrives at Immigration and Passport Control.

Like most diseases, Ebola has an incubation period. Early on, there are no symptoms: none at all.
There is no reliable way to tell whether those arriving at our ports of entry have contracted the disease or not. If we do not want it coming here, for a time, we have to keep everyone out who has been in that neck of the woods.

And what are we told by the authorities? That cutting off contact would contribute to the spread of the epidemic. “Just how?” we are entitled to ask.
But no explanation is given because, of course, there is none.

We were also told that the disease would not come here. And, when it did come here, we were told that it could easily be contained. And, when it was not contained and a medical professional wearing all the proper gear came down with the disease, we were told that he did not follow the protocol.

Perhaps, the medical professional in question really did fail to follow the protocol, though, he apparently has no notion how he fell short. Perhaps, that is it; then again, perhaps not. Honesty would require that the director of the CDC tell the truth — which is, that he does not know how this particular individual contracted Ebola.

But this he cannot say. For that would cause us to worry, and his responsibility, as he and those above him conceive it, is to cover for the President of the United States. In fact, he works for thee and me. Our taxes make it possible for him to draw a paycheck. But this, in company with nearly everyone in the Obama administration, he has somehow forgotten; and so, in a servile fashion, he goes out in public to defend with forked tongue a policy he and every medical professional in the country knows is madness.

The truth is simple. There is an epidemic in Africa. The disease that is spreading like wildfire is horrible beyond imagination. We have suspicions as to how it spreads, but we do not know for sure. The only certain way to avoid its propagation is to avoid contact, and the President of the United States, who operates in an intellectual bubble, is unwilling to do what it is necessary to do to prevent people in the country he is sworn to serve and defend from coming into contact with contagious individuals who have the disease.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Props to the Mayor of Dallas. Didn't mention the president or politics a single time in his remarks about the disease this morning. He's focused on the problem....and solutions.

The press is now trying to catch the people holding the news conference in a "gotchya" because that is what members of the press get rewarded for in today's media.

Too bad.

Why would he mention Obama? The hospital didn't follow protocol. They shouldn't now be allowed to accept new patients.

There was no protocol according to your post