Second amendment sanctury led to Colorado massacre

[C_Clayton_Jones]

How did the Colorado Springs gunman get his firearms despite ‘red flag’ law?

Colorado has laws designed to prevent dangerous people from buying guns – and yet they did not stop the deadly massacre at an LGBT+ club

www.independent.co.uk

But the sheriff's department in El Paso county, where Mr Aldrich was arrested, has declared itself politically opposed to the law and refuses to let its officers petition for such orders except in special circumstances.

In 2019, it joined nearly 2,000 counties across the US in declaring itself a "Second Amendment Sanctuary", saying the red flag law "infringes upon the inalienable rights of law-abiding citizens".

If politically motivated law enforcement refuse to enforce the law then bad things happen. The sherriff should be tried as an accessory.

Correct.

In addition to being ignorant, dishonest nonsense, Second Amendment ‘sanctuary’ idiocy actually inhibits law enforcement from combating crime.

The Second Amendment ‘sanctuary’ lie is yet another example of the right’s contempt for sound, responsible governance.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I can't read the article but red flag laws are highly unconstitutional.

Wrong.

This is a lie.

No court has held that protective orders are ‘un-Constitutional.’

Protective orders are perfectly Constitutional affording citizens comprehensive due process and in no manner ‘violate’ the Second Amendment.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

If you get due process and a court rules that way, all is good. Red flag laws ignore people have a right to due process.

Also wrong.

A protective order can be issued only pursuant to a judge’s ruling based on evidence of the matter.

Those subject to a protective order are entitled to a fair hearing to have the order lifted.

Again, citizens are afforded comprehensive due process.

 

[Markle]

Wrong.

This is a lie.

No court has held that protective orders are ‘un-Constitutional.’

Protective orders are perfectly Constitutional affording citizens comprehensive due process and in no manner ‘violate’ the Second Amendment.

You're commenting on Red Flag Laws with a totally irrelevant topic, protective orders. What does that have to do with Red Flag Laws being unconstitutional? Please be specific.

 

[pknopp]

Wrong.

This is a lie.

No court has held that protective orders are ‘un-Constitutional.’

Protective orders are perfectly Constitutional affording citizens comprehensive due process and in no manner ‘violate’ the Second Amendment.

I never said protective orders were un-Constitutional so if you want to address what I said, fine. If not, whatever.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

It they are not physically either a male or a female…

 

[Bob Blaylock]

What if Trump and his Nazi followers took over the country?

That's just goofy. It simply renders the rest of your post just as worthless.

The worthlessness of the rest of SleazyBozo's post stands on its own.

 

[sealybobo]

The worthlessness of the rest of SleazyBozo's post stands on its own.

I seriously see a similarity to Trump and Hitler. Sorry if that's not allowed to compare Trump with the one guy who's more infamous than he is.

Hitler even started a failed coup. Beer Hall Putsch. Landed him in jail. That's where Trump should be after lying to his most crazy supporters and told them to go riot because Roger Stone told him rioting worked in 2000.

Brooks Brothers riot - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Lots of similarities between Bush and Trump and Trump and Hitler.

 

[2aguy]

I seriously see a similarity to Trump and Hitler. Sorry if that's not allowed to compare Trump with the one guy who's more infamous than he is.

Hitler even started a failed coup. Beer Hall Putsch. Landed him in jail. That's where Trump should be after lying to his most crazy supporters and told them to go riot because Roger Stone told him rioting worked in 2000.

Brooks Brothers riot - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Lots of similarities between Bush and Trump and Trump and Hitler.

You mean except for the fact they are the exact opposite? The democrat party is closer to the national socialist party, and its current tactics of using blm and antifa as its brown shirt street soldiers, and the FBI, CIA as its personal gestapo just get past you?

 

[2aguy]

I seriously see a similarity to Trump and Hitler. Sorry if that's not allowed to compare Trump with the one guy who's more infamous than he is.

Hitler even started a failed coup. Beer Hall Putsch. Landed him in jail. That's where Trump should be after lying to his most crazy supporters and told them to go riot because Roger Stone told him rioting worked in 2000.

Brooks Brothers riot - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Lots of similarities between Bush and Trump and Trump and Hitler.

And you lle, right in that post....Trump never sent anyone to riot anywhere....the democrat party did employ bob craemer, husband to Chicago, democrat party politician, Jan Schakowsky to hire people to start riots at Trump rallies........you dumb ass...

 

[sealybobo]

You mean except for the fact they are the exact opposite? The democrat party is closer to the national socialist party, and its current tactics of using blm and antifa as its brown shirt street soldiers, and the FBI, CIA as its personal gestapo just get past you?

My young white rich nephew sees it your way. He hates how liberal college is.

The pendulum swings both ways. Yes we're getting sick of the woke movement. Me Too. Diversity programs. Fair pay for women and minorities. There is some truth to why we make more. Good reasons. It'll all come out.

Stop demonizing BLM. It shows you are out of touch. Cops do need to stop abusing young black men. Usually that's who've they've historically abused. Dates back to the Kerner commission and all these years later nothing has changed.

The 1968 Kerner Commission Got It Right, But Nobody Listened

Released 50 years ago, the infamous report found that poverty and institutional racism were driving inner-city violence

www.smithsonianmag.com

It's amazing how things haven't changed all that much since the 60's.

But then again, I'm not a cop working in the hood. I do defend those brave men and women. No doubt.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

What if Trump and his Nazi followers…

I seriously see a similarity to Trump and Hitler.

Hitler even started a failed coup.

Godwin's law invoked.

 

[sealybobo]

You mean except for the fact they are the exact opposite? The democrat party is closer to the national socialist party, and its current tactics of using blm and antifa as its brown shirt street soldiers, and the FBI, CIA as its personal gestapo just get past you?

Major Violators: Investigators find systemic corruption in Detroit's top drug enforcement unit - WDET 101.9 FM

The Operation Clean Sweep Task Force — which found evidence of fraud, forgery and perjury — is "the most in-depth intra-departmental investigative inquiry in recent Department history."

wdet.org

Now you see what black people are dealing with. Corrupt big city cops who murder them. So stop defending cops or suggesting we hate all cops. We don't.

 

[sealybobo]

2nd amendment says different

No it doesn't. We have laws. Break them and you get a felony. He made a bomb threat? That's a felony. No gun for him.

What does the second amendment say about people who are insane?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Stop demonizing BLM.

Why should violent criminals/terrorists not be demonized? Do you take their side against the side of human beings? I guess that should not surprise me, given the abject lack of moral and ethical character that you have always demonstrated.

 

[sealybobo]

Why should violent criminals/terrorists not be demonized? Do you take their side against the side of human beings? I guess that should not surprise me, given the abject lack of moral and ethical character that you have always demonstrated.

Who's a violent criminal or terrorist? And who's defending that criminal or terrorist? Are you referring to people who defend Trump?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You don't need military rifles, no one does.

Ok I will agree if you can show me the word need in the bill of rights.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

yes everyone needs the best military rifles available since thats what the 2nd amendment was for,,

It's not about need

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I see I can't change you mind!! Killers have military rifles.

What military issues AR15s? FYI the military doesn't have a second amendment right.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

He was a Maga, they get guns anyway they can get guns.

Who are you talking about?