Second amendment sanctury led to Colorado massacre

[martybegan]

what felony did you committ this week and dont even know it??

CONVICTED, not accused, and yes, the over-legislated state of our country is an issue.

Felons lose their right to vote, to freedom, and others, losing their RKBA is just one facet.

 

[pknopp]

And with the ones in blue states they make sure it takes years for a person to contest any court writ denying them their 2nd amendment rights.

anyone wrongly accused should be able to sue the government AND the accuser for damages.

No, looking to the courts to protect your rights is NOT how we protect rights. We just do. Your is the same argument others have argued when people are faced with the police violating their rights.

"Just let them violate them and hope the courts fix things".

No.

 

[progressive hunter]

CONVICTED, not accused, and yes, the over-legislated state of our country is an issue.

Felons lose their right to vote, to freedom, and others, losing their RKBA is just one facet.

thats not what the 2nd A says,,

you either support the 2nd or you dont,,

 

[shockedcanadian]

You can kill with a hammer, are carpenters killers?

Well, an interesting statement, I say this in jest but I bet you there has been a carpenter by profession who has killed someone with a hammer before. Therefore, yes, carpenters are killers.

Your statement raises more of a critique of inductive reasoning we hear from so many much to my chagrin as it simplifies their argument for more restrictions:

carpenter uses a hammer
hammers are used in murders
therefore, all carpenters are murderers

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Very true!

The Second Amendment isn‘t for hunting or even self-defense, it’s to overthrow the government.

And shooting trannies.

 

[progressive hunter]

And shooting trannies.

trannies need guns too,,

 

[Tommy Tainant]

thats not what the 2nd A says,,

you either support the 2nd or you dont,,

The second references a well regulated militia. Which militia was he a part of ?

 

[progressive hunter]

The second references a well regulated militia. Which militia was he a part of ?

that is just a qualifier for why all americans need to be armed in case they need to step up and join a militia,,

if you were american you would know that,, but sadly you are the people that our militias kicked their asses and sent them packing,,

 

[whitehall]

The red flag law was in place regardless of how the Sheriff felt about it. The problem was that the liberal judge dismissed several felonies and sealed the records so this nut case was able to purchase a firearm. What's the left wing solution? Confiscation? Interesting to note that Pennsylvania elected a nut case who also lived in his mothers basement and once chased an innocent black guy down the street with a shotgun, to the U.S. Senate and democrats thought it was fine as long as he was a democrat.. So it ain't about firearms, it's about political power.

 

[pknopp]

The red flag law was in place regardless of how the Sheriff felt about it. The problem was that the liberal judge dismissed several felonies and sealed the records so this nut case was able to purchase a firearm. What's the left wing solution? Confiscation? Interesting to note that Pennsylvania elected a nut case who also lived in his mothers basement and once chased an innocent black guy down the street with a shotgun, to the U.S. Senate and democrats thought it was fine as long as he was a democrat.. So it ain't about firearms, it's about political power.

Here again is a huge example of the problem. We have many dead people and you default to your partisan politics.

 

[martybegan]

No, looking to the courts to protect your rights is NOT how we protect rights. We just do. Your is the same argument others have argued when people are faced with the police violating their rights.

"Just let them violate them and hope the courts fix things".

No.

That would eliminate the ability of police to arrest suspects. How do you propose that works?

 

[martybegan]

thats not what the 2nd A says,,

you either support the 2nd or you dont,,

Absolutists are idiots. It's like trying to use the Ideal Gas Law to design a fractioning distillation column.

 

[martybegan]

Well, an interesting statement, I say this in jest but I bet you there has been a carpenter by profession who has killed someone with a hammer before. Therefore, yes, carpenters are killers.

Your statement raises more of a critique of inductive reasoning we hear from so many much to my chagrin as it simplifies their argument for more restrictions:

carpenter uses a hammer
hammers are used in a murders
therefore, all carpenters are murderers

I've had one throw a hammer at another worker on one of my sites. He was charged with assault.

 

[progressive hunter]

Absolutists are idiots. It's like trying to use the Ideal Gas Law to design a fractioning distillation column.

you just say that because it hurts your feelings,, facts dont care about your feelings,,,

 

[martybegan]

you just say that because it hurts your feelings,, facts dont care about your feelings,,,

I say it because it's reality, not some ivory tower argument on inherent rights and their limits.

 

[progressive hunter]

I say it because it's reality, not some ivory tower argument on inherent rights and their limits.

if the dems get their way reality will be none of us will be able to own any weapon let alone a gun,,

so why are you helping the dems with their agenda??

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

You don't need military rifles, no one does.

But what if I need to kill some assholes who are attacking me?

Or if I want to do target practice?

Or if I think they look pretty as decoration?

 

[martybegan]

if the dems get their way reality will be none of us will be able to own any weapon let alone a gun,,

so why are you helping the dems with their agenda??

How am I doing that?

 

[progressive hunter]

How am I doing that?

by giving an inch when they respond by taking a mile,,

no one said freedom is easy or safe,, we allow idiots to drive cars while they are killing thousands of people a yr and driving is not even a right,,

 

[martybegan]

by giving an inch when they respond by taking a mile,,

no one said freedom is easy or safe,, we allow idiots to drive cars while they are killing thousands of people a yr and driving is not even a right,

How is saying convicted felons can't have guns giving an inch?