Montrovant
Fuzzy bears!
Put another way, Blair Walsh was 32 of 33 on FGs inside of 30 yards prior to that game. I don't know if his one miss was a miss or a block. He also missed only 1 extra point in 109 attempts prior to the distance change this season.
I don't know if I can find stats on the Seahawks from inside the 5 or something like that, but I would guess the percentage is lower for them scoring TDs than Walsh's kicking percentage.
To put it another way. It was just a comment.
The point was not to make an exact statistical comparison. It was about the similar despair the losing fans experienced as each team snatched a loss from the jaws of victory in the last seconds of the games. There were exactly 26 seconds left in both games as the tables were tuned.
I was asking if Seattle fans should feel bad for the Vikings fans. I decided not as there were no consultation messages offer me or any that I saw from NE fans directed toward Seahawk fans.
What you did was compare the plays as being about luck. Seattle did not block the kick, nor disrupt it particularly. It was bad play by the Vikings. New England called the correct play on defense in the Super Bowl, their player made a great play, it wasn't just some duck thrown by Wilson into the Patriots' hands, the Hawks receiver didn't fall down on the play, nothing like that. As usual you refuse to give credit to the Patriots for the play.
The difference between the plays, the huge difference, is that New England absolutely deserves credit for the Super Bowl play and absolutely it was a good defensive play that made it happen, while in the Vikings game the Seahawks did nothing special to cause the miss, it was just a bad kick.
Fans of every team that lose a close game in the last seconds are upset. You compared the two plays as both being nothing but luck, which is, again, where calling you a homer comes in.![]()
The kick previous to the missed kick was almost blocked by Sherman. Richard missed the block by less than an inch. The Vikings kicker did not shank or miss kick the ball. It went straight. I'm thinking he kicked the ball to the left of center intentionally to prevent the ball being blocked. But....
You are STILL missing the point I was making.
I couldn't care less if you think I am a "homer". Obviously I am a fan of the Hawks. That's not up for debate nor is it a secret.
I WAS TALKING ONLY ABOUT IF SEAHAWK FANS SHOULD HAVE EMPATHY FOR VIKINGS FANS BECAUSE OF THE GUT WRENCHING TURN OF EVENTS AND THEIR LOSS.
In BOTH situations the Hawks and the Vikings were mere seconds from an almost certain victory. Whether one situation was more or less almost certain is irrelevant to the point I was attempting to make.
BOTH teams made mistakes that caused their losses. The Hawks could have called a different play featuring different personnel such as a fake inside run with Wilson operating the dive/run/option with him running around one or the other end and keeping the ball. THAT play has been used MANY times and almost always successful. The Viking kicker could have just frigging kicked the ball straight. Again THAT is not the debate I was attempting to inspire.
I was simply questioning if Hawk fans should offer some kind of condolences towards Vikings fans. As I recall the NE fans here and at the other sites I view offered no such empathy.
Do you get it YET??? Probably not. I'm guessing you get lost frequently. Even with maps and GPS available...simply because you ignorantly believe you are right in all circumstances.
What point you are trying to make doesn't change the fact that you went about it by comparing the two plays as being based on luck. What, do you think the only thing that matters is the main point of your post and all the details should just be ignored?![]()
Where did I post that both play's outcomes were based on luck? The only thing for sure is that both plays had unexpected last second outcomes. Both team's fans were pretty sure they had the game won. Both teams ended with losses. Should the Hawk's fans be any more empathetic than the NE fans were to the Hawk's faithful? THAT is the ONLY point I was attempting to bring up. All that minutia won't change how the fans should deal with the loss...or the win. Recent history suggests that the winners shouldn't give a damn what the loser's are going though.
You said this :
NE got lucky with probably the dumbest play/personnel call in Super Bowl History on the part of Daryll Bevell and Ricardo Lockette being the slant receiver with no experience as a slant receiver.
when describing how the plays were similar. I don't know if you've ever said anything which would indicate that New England called the right play and that Butler made a great play on the throw. It's always about how it was a terrible play by Seattle, New England was lucky, yadda yadda. That's how you always post : everything is about the Seahawks, not the other teams. It's actually surprising that you haven't been painting this game as being about Seattle's greatness somehow.
I don't care if Seattle fans are empathetic about the way the game ended or not. I'm just pointing out how everything you post regarding the Seahawks, no matter the circumstance, is homerish. Objective analysis seems beyond you when it comes to Seattle.
