Seahawks SUCK !!!!
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antiquity
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I think Seattle win over Denver in the Superbowl was very embarrassing for Bronco fans. At least Seattle players didn't give up in the second half like the Denver players..
antiquity
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I don't know why but the Seattle coaching staff seems to have a hard time motivating the players in the first half in a lot of games. I think Carroll should give his half time speech before the start of the game.
In fact it seemed Seattle lack motivation over the first several games. I think it was the lost to Carolina that Seattle final realized they better stop reading and feeling bad about their SuperBowl lost to NE and got their act together.
antiquity
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The Panthers stop passing and when to the running game trying to run down the clock was what got them in trouble. In the mean time Seattle could afford to waste the time on the run and went mainly to the passing game.
HUGGY
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Ya... When the Panthers backed off from running those blitzes Wilson flat tore them up.
I think Carolina surprised themselves how effective the early D-Line push was. After the first 2 TDs it was clear that they would just keep their foot on the Defensive gas up front and it worked great for them.
In the second half the Panthers weren't playing a prevent but they gave Russell more time to throw by not crashing the pocket as much as they did in qtrs 1 and 2. Being ahead 31-0 there was no reason to keep up that pace. NOBODY comes back 31 points in half a football game. The clock was on their side.
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The only way the Seahawks could have pulled themselves out of the fire would be if they played the 3rd qtr like they did the 4th. That 3rd and 20 and the 3rd and the 3rd and 23 when the Seahawks punted were when they needed to go for it on 4th down. The stupid play by Lunch when the Hawks had made the first down and Lynch had lined up too far off the line .. The Hawks couldn't afford any mistakes at that point. They made the same stupid mistakes that cost them games early in the season.
I'm totally done with Cable. I'm done with Lynch.
Bevell calls plays based on the O-Line doing their job...which they don't. Then Wilson jumps up like a faithfull little dog and spouts how it's all on himself. He refuses to grab that tub of shit Okung by his face mask and scream in that dumb nigga's ass face to do his job or get the **** off the field. One of these days it won't be so ******* funny when they are taking Wilson off the field on a cart because of getting slammed off the backside of a play.
Okung makes more mistakes than a damned rookie and when he isn't getting a penalty he is letting some nobody blow by him and blow up the play. Both of Wilson's interceptions were a direct result of Okung not doing his job. That's why the Left Tackle is so important to have a dependable guy at that position. The QB is turned to his right preparing to throw the ball which puts his back to the left of the LOS. Okung has been screwing up all season.
If Carroll can't see what any half assed intelligent fan can CLEARLY see then he should step down. The refusal to assemble an O-Line that will protect Wilson is beyond negligent. It WILL end Wilson's career. If I was Paul Allen I would throw THAT in Carroll's face.
I'm totally done with Cable. I'm done with Lynch.
Bevell calls plays based on the O-Line doing their job...which they don't. Then Wilson jumps up like a faithfull little dog and spouts how it's all on himself. He refuses to grab that tub of shit Okung by his face mask and scream in that dumb nigga's ass face to do his job or get the **** off the field. One of these days it won't be so ******* funny when they are taking Wilson off the field on a cart because of getting slammed off the backside of a play.
Okung makes more mistakes than a damned rookie and when he isn't getting a penalty he is letting some nobody blow by him and blow up the play. Both of Wilson's interceptions were a direct result of Okung not doing his job. That's why the Left Tackle is so important to have a dependable guy at that position. The QB is turned to his right preparing to throw the ball which puts his back to the left of the LOS. Okung has been screwing up all season.
If Carroll can't see what any half assed intelligent fan can CLEARLY see then he should step down. The refusal to assemble an O-Line that will protect Wilson is beyond negligent. It WILL end Wilson's career. If I was Paul Allen I would throw THAT in Carroll's face.
HUGGY
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If I was Russell Wilson I would have a serious private sit down with Allen and Carroll and demand that Okung is cut from the team and replaced with the best available Left Tackle in the NFL. The stats PROVE that Okung had allowed league leading hits and sacks in the first
half of the season and in the first halves of all but a couple games thruout the remainder of the season's games.
Okung has been a liability to the Hawks in winning games but specifically to Wilson's health and the probability of him having a long career. A serious season ending injury could easily result in a career ending injury could and would cost Wilson upwards of one hundred milllion dollars.
Just from a business stand point Wilson should have the right to protect his future.
Russell Wilson has already proven his worth as a professional athlete. Maybe a couple of seasons ago it was just conjecture that Wilson would live up to his promise to be one of if not the best QB ever to play the game. This season he has shown that when allowed to play without constant fear of being creamed within 2 seconds of the snap of the football that he could and DID lead the NFL in %'s and most other QB stats that gauge superiority.
Wilson needs to stop being Carroll's lap dog yes man and demand that the team respect his health and his future.
half of the season and in the first halves of all but a couple games thruout the remainder of the season's games.
Okung has been a liability to the Hawks in winning games but specifically to Wilson's health and the probability of him having a long career. A serious season ending injury could easily result in a career ending injury could and would cost Wilson upwards of one hundred milllion dollars.
Just from a business stand point Wilson should have the right to protect his future.
Russell Wilson has already proven his worth as a professional athlete. Maybe a couple of seasons ago it was just conjecture that Wilson would live up to his promise to be one of if not the best QB ever to play the game. This season he has shown that when allowed to play without constant fear of being creamed within 2 seconds of the snap of the football that he could and DID lead the NFL in %'s and most other QB stats that gauge superiority.
Wilson needs to stop being Carroll's lap dog yes man and demand that the team respect his health and his future.
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"Seahawks SUCK !!!!"
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True.
TrinityPower
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Ok it was downplayed by Carroll because he doesn't use excuses even if there are reasons but the field condition was a big problem. They re-sod the field 6 days before in the middle of a freezin winter, who does that? It was even mentioned that everyone on Seattle team had to change out cleats which took a good piece of time in the 1st half. Go back and watch the first portion again...D was sliding everywhere and falling down. Kinda happens when the turf beneath you ISN'T ATTACHED!! Panthers were made aware of that stuff LONG beforehand and although it isn't said doesn't it make sense that had Seattle staff known about the conditions they would not have had to change out cleats in the middle of the game?? Illegal to not notify...eh...probably not a written rule but for me it sure was questionable and I will go so far to say that it tears a page from the New England Patriots book of ethics.
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Good God Huggy you are either the team's best friend or their worst enemy. Jeez O'Pete man!!
Papageorgio
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Didn't Seattle warm up on the field and have an early warm up before the game? Also doesn't Seattle practice on the same type of field at home?
The had the new cleats attached before the beginning of the second quarter.
You lost, get over it and move on. All the noise about the flag and the turf and on and on. Poor losers come to mind.
The issue was Seattle's offensive line. Good defensive lines have beaten Seattle seven times this year. When you get to Wilson he makes mistakes. The second half Carolina's defense quit blitzing and it gave a lot more time for Wilson to pass.
The Seattle losses, Green Bay, St. Louis twice, Carolina twice, Cincinnati and Arizona, all had good defensive lines. The only team Seattle beat with a decent defensive line was Arizona on the last game of the where Arizona had little motivation to win.
The three wins the Seahawks had against winners was Pittsburgh, not known for defense this year and Minnesota twice. The second game against Minnesota was because the kicker miss a 27 TD field goal.
Seattle, has talent and are scary to play but teams know the offensive line is weak. Until they fix the offensive line, they will continue lose to good defenses because of the pressure it places on Wilson.
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3 years ago Seattle won then lost a heartbreaker the next year. This year was supposed to be redemption but Seattle barely made the playoffs. This year makes last year even more. This team may never make it back. Look at Aaron Rodgers. I think he has one ring. Or Payton manning only 1. Seattle may have missed their window of opportunity is all I'm saying. There are a lot of other teams with a whole lot of talent. Hell the lions should have beat you this year and might next year. Let's face it. Seattle is no Carolina az ne or Denver. Now those are some tough teams. Lol
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I think Seattle is a top four team, they just need help on the offensive line and they are back. The concern is now the salary cap. They will be right up there and will need to balance it out with their needs.
Oh I know I'm just rubbing it in. And you never know. I remember the pistons won in 04 and got screwed against the spurs game 7 in 05 and we never made it back. My god Tim Duncan won before us and after us and could win again. No one on that piston team even plays anymore. Duncan is a machine.
Is Wilson that good? What about that running back. What's wrong with him? I don't remember much of him during the playoffs.
I wouldn't bet against Seattle. They seem to have a good team but something was definitely wrong this year. They won't be getting a good draft pick.
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The Seahawks had all of Saturday and several hours pre game Sunday to look at the field and figure out that the grass wasn't attached. THAT is Carroll's responsibility to find out such information.
If the Panthers had advance knowledge that the grass was not rooted and showed up at kick off with long cleats giving them a distinct advantage and all of the coaches did a walk through including running and cutting before the game and NOBODY said ANYTHING???
Well yes it is a goddamned dirty trick if what you say is true.
It seems to me that in a game that's so important it is our coach's responsibility to understand what advantage the Panthers would have if they knew about the last minute turf change. If the Hawks were so naive as to wait until kickoff to start making cleat changes who's fault is THAT?
In some ways carroll is just plain stupid.
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If what you are saying is true why would Carroll wait until after the kickoff to opt for longer cleats?
How dumb is THAT?
If the Panthers did the turf change last minute on purpose hoping to have an advantage until the Hawks got wise and replaced the players cleats by the start of the 3rd qtr it speaks to how stupid Carroll can be at times.
Of course it would be cheating if it went down like you are alleging.
There is nothing that can be done about it now.
Obviously if the Panthers knew ahead of time to wear extra long cleats THAT would account for the Hawks getting run over like they did in the first half. If the Seahawks started the game with regular cleats expecting the turf to be solid rooted grass then clearly the team with extra long cleats would have a serious traction advantage.
You will never convince nay sayers like PoppedhisGooGoo that if what you are suggesting are facts that it would have made any difference. That is why I say it is entirely on Carroll and his staff and the feedback from the players to realize the trick turf trick was being played on the Seahawks and they had better replace their regular cleats with the extra long ones. Waiting until after the kickoff to "see how it goes" and then make the switch would just highlite Carroll's stupidity.
I did see Seahawk players slipping and sliding as did everyone. And come to think of it I saw no such slippage on the part of the Panthers. You know very well that dishonest pukes like PoppedHisGoo will just say that is because the Panthers are just superior athletes.
I say that it is up to our coach to be aware of any possible DOABLE shenanigans to be ferreted out before the game starts. There are just so many things that can be done to give one team an unfair and dishonest advantage over another in a football game. Intentionally creating a loose turf and hoping the other team doesn't catch on until it is too late could be one of them.
I have a question. How do you know the Hawk's cleats were replaced with longer ones? If it is true why didn't the Seahawks discover the problem way before kick off and just replace their regular cleats with much longer ones? Who's fault is THAT?
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Carolina Panthers uninterested in Seattle Seahawks' turf complaints
Smuggy, your sleezesucks as the article brings out, complained about the field BEFORE the game. The preface show talked about the heavy rains in the Carolinas over the last couple months, they also said the turf is usually replaced after the regular season and before the playoffs.
During the game, the announcers talked about the sleezesucks putting on the longer cleats during the first quarter. In fact the TV went to the sidelines and showed the players changing to the longer cleats. You were probably to drunk to realize it.
Both teams practiced on the turf, both teams played on the same turf. Face it your sleezesucks screwed up again, just like losers do.
And just like loser fans, Smuggy, you make excuses because you have no clue about football. It was to hot, it was to cold, the turf is loose, the wind was blowing, Wilson had a hang nail...you have tons of excuses and somehow think your silly team is the only team that plays with bad weather, bad turf and injuries.
Some day perhaps you Seahawk fans will grow up and realize the league doesn't revolve around you, you again prove what sore losers Seattle fans are. Go ahead and whine and cry, it isn't Cam that needs the bigger towel, it is you, big baby.
Smuggy, your sleezesucks as the article brings out, complained about the field BEFORE the game. The preface show talked about the heavy rains in the Carolinas over the last couple months, they also said the turf is usually replaced after the regular season and before the playoffs.
During the game, the announcers talked about the sleezesucks putting on the longer cleats during the first quarter. In fact the TV went to the sidelines and showed the players changing to the longer cleats. You were probably to drunk to realize it.
Both teams practiced on the turf, both teams played on the same turf. Face it your sleezesucks screwed up again, just like losers do.
And just like loser fans, Smuggy, you make excuses because you have no clue about football. It was to hot, it was to cold, the turf is loose, the wind was blowing, Wilson had a hang nail...you have tons of excuses and somehow think your silly team is the only team that plays with bad weather, bad turf and injuries.
Some day perhaps you Seahawk fans will grow up and realize the league doesn't revolve around you, you again prove what sore losers Seattle fans are. Go ahead and whine and cry, it isn't Cam that needs the bigger towel, it is you, big baby.
TrinityPower
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It was stated by the announcers. A few minutes before the game Erin Andrews said many Seattle players noticed the turf was trash. They only replaced the middle of the field not the sides. During warm ups they usually do not go to the middle to do warm ups, most if I recall is done more to the side, not right in the middle. They started noticing slippage late in warm ups and it was stated by announcers that it would take a few series on offense and defense to change out the cleats. Carroll did state that hauschka did the best anyone could to on the onside kick and getting it as high as he could but had the turf been sound could have gotten better leverage on it but he didn't hold it against him at all. Carroll did not make te turf a reason for the loss. It was not mentioned but the truth of the matter was that the surface was trash and our players looked like they had mayo on their shoes for most of the first half. Changing out cleats is not just a simple matter of changing shoes. For some of the spikes the trainer has to unscrew each one and replace it. That's why it took so long to change out. Seattle is a class team and they won't make excuses but think about it or go back and watch footage, they were slipping everywhere.
TrinityPower
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They had at least two weeks to have re sodded but they waited til 6 days before to do so knowing their team was in the playoffs. If their last regular season game was at home they had at LEAST two weeks to have prepared the field. If they had their last regular season game on te road then that is three weeks. If they had heavy rain in weeks prior they should have postponed doing it til later playoffs or no. Think other teams would deliberately not prepare for such a thing if they knew of it? Get real!
antiquity
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Seattle hasn't had a high draft pick for years...Seattle's management and coaching staff can see talent in low draft picks and undrafted players where other team can't. Both Seattle wide receivers were not drafted and Baldwin lead the league in receiving touchdowns and Kearse had 11 catches against the Panthers. What other team in the NFL can say they were built on low drafted and undrafted players?
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