Screwing over the military...

[Correll]

a. Liberals.

b. Demographic shift.

c. Over half the country is against illegal immigration.

a. you are more liberal than I am.

b. what demographic is being shifted?

c. so am I. Why do you lump me in with those that are not? Seems sort of dishonest.

a. People generally identify as groups, based on "skin color". It effects the cultures they embrace and have real world consequences that effect me and mine. D'uh.

b. Obviously that is a big part of it.

a. Is that a good thing? Skin color is purely a function of biology, logically it makes no sense to separate people by it.

b. you know it is a big part of it, yet you see some grand conspiracy going on also.

a. People separate themselves into groups. That you find it "illogical" doesn't change that, nor the consequences from it.

b. Your use of the term "conspiracy" is just spin. Consider it dismissed. My point stands. Obviously what you cited, is a part of it. But the immigration act of 65 is also an even bigger part of it.

We are having the conversation. It is a small conversation, on a internet forum, unlikely to have much impact. And it is likely only a matter of time, before you or some other lib, manages to bog down any discussion with the standard lib package, (race card, personal attacks,ect)

Because people like you, expect to be able to pepper a debate, with personal insults and slurs and then act like the aggrieved party, when someone calls you on it.


It is an tactic designed to prevent real debate. Because on some level, you know that your position is bullshit.

So, you claim to know "people like me" tactics, but you still fall for them and let them drive you off your message. Is that on you or "people like me"?[/QUOTE]


People like you. Your actions are on you. That you want to shift the blame for your actions to another, is ironically, a standard liberal tactic.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Does anyone know what papers we need to carry on our bodies at all times to prove we are a US citizen? (I'm serious)

I'm beginning to feel like we should have a number on our body or the stamp of the beast on our forehead.

As a liberal, you should already have one!

 

[Lesh]

What's being missed is that this is yet another attack on LEGAL immigrants...this time, those serving in the military

Well, they aren't being denied citizenship. Rather they are being forced to go though bureaucratic bullshit. Why. We do have non-citizens serving in the military, usually people who enlisted while residing in the US. When Obama was potus, people who were brought here as infants could enlist and gain citizenship through service. Does Trump want to deny citizenship to the children on these soldiers? dunno.

It would seem so. Or at least Steven Miller does...and he has Trump's ear (why for God's sake does a racist speech writer determine policy?)

 

[Harpy Eagle]

a. People separate themselves into groups. That you find it "illogical" doesn't change that, nor the consequences from it.

It is not the separating into groups that I find illogical, it is the doing it based upon something nobody has any control over. The color of one's skin is pretty much a meanliess biological trait.

People like you. Your actions are on you. That you want to shift the blame for your actions to another, is ironically, a standard liberal tactic.

Yes, my actions are on me. Yet you will not accept your own actions, you blame them on me also. You are blaming "people like me" for how you act and respond.

Why are you using this standard liberal tactic? Could it be because you are more liberal than I am?

 

[bendog]

What's being missed is that this is yet another attack on LEGAL immigrants...this time, those serving in the military

Well, they aren't being denied citizenship. Rather they are being forced to go though bureaucratic bullshit. Why. We do have non-citizens serving in the military, usually people who enlisted while residing in the US. When Obama was potus, people who were brought here as infants could enlist and gain citizenship through service. Does Trump want to deny citizenship to the children on these soldiers? dunno.

It would seem so. Or at least Steven Miller does...and he has Trump's ear (why for God's sake does a racist speech writer determine policy?)

Yeah, this is what its about. Birthright citizenship. If a Dreamer enlists and is willing to be injured or killed serving, his kid is not a citizen if born outside the US.
Trump's setting up factual scenarios to show the Gop Sup Ct what it thinks would show how birthright citizenship is unfair to those brave souls, when in fact birthright citizenship is and Always was about preventing the US from ever again importing a group of foreign laborers whom it can deny citizen's rights while breeding it for generations.

 

[regent]

Perbaps the Trump government will not send servicemen to foreign nations unless they agree to obey his edicts?

 

[Correll]

a. People separate themselves into groups. That you find it "illogical" doesn't change that, nor the consequences from it.

It is not the separating into groups that I find illogical, it is the doing it based upon something nobody has any control over. The color of one's skin is pretty much a meanliess biological trait.

Yes, I got that. That is why I addressed it in my post.

People like you. Your actions are on you. That you want to shift the blame for your actions to another, is ironically, a standard liberal tactic.

Yes, my actions are on me. Yet you will not accept your own actions, you blame them on me also. You are blaming "people like me" for how you act and respond.

Why are you using this standard liberal tactic? Could it be because you are more liberal than I am?

I'm not. YOu are being silly.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Trump administration says children of US troops born overseas do not have automatic citizenship

EDIT.....

I was wrong and falsely stated how the change worked. My apologies to all.

Some children born overseas to certain US troops may not automatically have American citizenship, Trump administration says


"This only affects children who were born outside the United States and were not US citizens. This does NOT impact birthright citizenship. This policy update does not deny citizenship to the children of US government employees or members of the military born abroad,

Well done, not many would own it.