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No hope for me......I gotta move.
Works both ways. The President is practicing asymmetrical warfare against ISIS right now. He is fighting them in ways that gives them little wiggle room. And were idiots like you to try a guerrilla war here in the US, there are many of us that would aid in taking you out. You cannot hide in a population that is largely hostile to you.
Your assumption that the population would be "largely hostile" isn't true, and I seriously doubt the president is going to launch airstrikes against American cities. You can't "take anyone out" if you don't know who they are. Meanwhile, the anti-secession politicians will be getting slaughtered.
It may never happen, but it's fun to think about fascist assholes like you scurrying about in mortal terror all day.
I understand exactly how you feel. I would take great pleasure in personally shooting secessionist traitors, watching them plead for their miserable lives while they piss their pants in terror. That sounds like a good day to me.
The difference is you delight at inflicting harm and suffering on innocent people who want nothing more than to be left alone.
That is so beautifully liberal!
Apparently you believe the forces of the seceding states would line up their men and charge into the machine guns like Picket's charge at Gettysburg. Today there is something called "asymmetrical warfare." It a very simple matter to make sure the politicians and judges who oppose secession have very short terms in office. Today someone can easily and cheaply make a remotely piloted bomb by strapping a couple of sticks of dynamite onto a radio controlled airplane. Just fly that over some hypocrite politician's limo and BLAMO! - scratch one vote against secession.
How long do you think that would go on before the vote was in favor of allowing secession?
Unless the military splits, or straight up sides with the secessionists, and Second Civil War attempts are going to end very very fast. I doubt it would take a nuke to end it, but if it did it would likely happen. Nukes were considered in Korea and Vietnam and those were wars the US could afford to walk away from. The Feds simply wouldn't be able to walk away from a US Civil War and if they did start to look like they could actually lose....Yep, all it takes to win are some nukes to the major cities, assuming the military didn't split.
Again, once assassinations start, that would constitute Terrorism. You'd lose the population and you'd be dead within days from a Predator drone strike.Works both ways. The President is practicing asymmetrical warfare against ISIS right now. He is fighting them in ways that gives them little wiggle room. And were idiots like you to try a guerrilla war here in the US, there are many of us that would aid in taking you out. You cannot hide in a population that is largely hostile to you.
Your assumption that the population would be "largely hostile" isn't true, and I seriously doubt the president is going to launch airstrikes against American cities. You can't "take anyone out" if you don't know who they are. Meanwhile, the anti-secession politicians will be getting slaughtered.
It may never happen, but it's fun to think about fascist assholes like you scurrying about in mortal terror all day.
This was all settled at Apomatox Court House. You lost, and this is One Nation. Try such idiocy again, and you may find yourself fighting the sane citizens of this nation even before the Police and Military step in.
My great grandfather was in the 11th Illinois Infantry, Fort Donaldson and Shiloh, all the way to New Orleans. He fought for the preservation of the Union, I am quite willing to do the same, just as the majority of our citizens would be.
The Southern documents of Secession all argue in favor of slavery. You pretty much lose the moral high ground right there. Which by the way, is a huge reason the South lost. Europe wouldn't have minded jumping in and seeing the US split but the South's pro-Slavery stance pretty much ended any hope that would happen.[
Lincoln and the Yankee carpet baggers are the ones who did all the oppressing.
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Lincoln and the Yankee carpet baggers are the ones who did all the oppressing. They burned down and destroyed private property. They looted, raped and pillaged. They killed 50,000 civilians. In the North Lincoln and his thugs arrested and even executed people without a trial. He shut down 300 news papers. He arrested the entire state legislature of Maryland. He instituted involuntary servitude (the draft).
Yeah, there's a guy who believes in freedom and individual rights!
Die or Serve.\There are no secession rules printed anywhere. The Supreme Court that ruled on the issue was populated by a gang of Lincoln appointed hacks. What of the chances that they handed down an objective disinterested ruling? They are about the same as the chance of Harry Reid telling the truth, I imagine.
If there are no rules then there would have to be legal agreements made between the two parties. Armed rebellion is simply treason.
In other words the Southern states would have to get Lincoln to "agree" to let them secede - something he had no intention of doing.
Go fuck yourself.
You don't make a "legal agreement" with someone who's holding a gun to your head.
Your choice.
That's the kind of "choice" that liberals and Nazis always have to offer.
That's the only choice you can make in the situation when you have a gun held to your head.
At least you get to choose. Most of the time, your enemy choose for you to die.
The Southern documents of Secession all argue in favor of slavery. You pretty much lose the moral high ground right there. Which by the way, is a huge reason the South lost. Europe wouldn't have minded jumping in and seeing the US split but the South's pro-Slavery stance pretty much ended any hope that would happen.
The Southern documents of Secession all argue in favor of slavery. You pretty much lose the moral high ground right there. Which by the way, is a huge reason the South lost. Europe wouldn't have minded jumping in and seeing the US split but the South's pro-Slavery stance pretty much ended any hope that would happen.[
Lincoln and the Yankee carpet baggers are the ones who did all the oppressing.
The Southern documents of Secession all argue in favor of slavery. You pretty much lose the moral high ground right there. Which by the way, is a huge reason the South lost. Europe wouldn't have minded jumping in and seeing the US split but the South's pro-Slavery stance pretty much ended any hope that would happen.[
Lincoln and the Yankee carpet baggers are the ones who did all the oppressing.
It doesn't matter what the Southern documents of secession say. The bottom line is that Lincoln did not invade the South to end slavery. Secession did not start the war. Lincoln started the war when he blockaded Southern ports and invaded Virginia.
As usual, the Lincoln apologists all post the same old shopworn arguments, and they're all full of shit.
Works both ways. The President is practicing asymmetrical warfare against ISIS right now. He is fighting them in ways that gives them little wiggle room. And were idiots like you to try a guerrilla war here in the US, there are many of us that would aid in taking you out. You cannot hide in a population that is largely hostile to you.
Your assumption that the population would be "largely hostile" isn't true, and I seriously doubt the president is going to launch airstrikes against American cities. You can't "take anyone out" if you don't know who they are. Meanwhile, the anti-secession politicians will be getting slaughtered.
It may never happen, but it's fun to think about fascist assholes like you scurrying about in mortal terror all day.
I understand exactly how you feel. I would take great pleasure in personally shooting secessionist traitors, watching them plead for their miserable lives while they piss their pants in terror. That sounds like a good day to me.
The difference is you delight at inflicting harm and suffering on innocent people who want nothing more than to be left alone.
That is so beautifully liberal!
What's the matter tough guy, you were so enthusiastic about shooting people a little while ago. Did you lose the courage of your convictions somewhere? A cowardly little shit like you wouldn't even be worth shooting.
Unless the military splits, or straight up sides with the secessionists, and Second Civil War attempts are going to end very very fast. I doubt it would take a nuke to end it, but if it did it would likely happen. Nukes were considered in Korea and Vietnam and those were wars the US could afford to walk away from. The Feds simply wouldn't be able to walk away from a US Civil War and if they did start to look like they could actually lose....Yep, all it takes to win are some nukes to the major cities, assuming the military didn't split.
Works both ways. The President is practicing asymmetrical warfare against ISIS right now. He is fighting them in ways that gives them little wiggle room. And were idiots like you to try a guerrilla war here in the US, there are many of us that would aid in taking you out. You cannot hide in a population that is largely hostile to you.
Your assumption that the population would be "largely hostile" isn't true, and I seriously doubt the president is going to launch airstrikes against American cities. You can't "take anyone out" if you don't know who they are. Meanwhile, the anti-secession politicians will be getting slaughtered.
It may never happen, but it's fun to think about fascist assholes like you scurrying about in mortal terror all day.
I understand exactly how you feel. I would take great pleasure in personally shooting secessionist traitors, watching them plead for their miserable lives while they piss their pants in terror. That sounds like a good day to me.
The difference is you delight at inflicting harm and suffering on innocent people who want nothing more than to be left alone.
That is so beautifully liberal!
What's the matter tough guy, you were so enthusiastic about shooting people a little while ago. Did you lose the courage of your convictions somewhere? A cowardly little shit like you wouldn't even be worth shooting.
No, I will take great delight in shooting any Yankee carpet baggers who choose to invade my state. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of your so-called "ideals."
too bad in some ways that Scotland didn't vote for secession so we could have seen how it would have worked out.
If it was to be done peaceably how would doing it be determined?...... a majority vote?.....that would be truly ironic as most people I've heard advocate such a thing are fond of saying "republic not a democracy".......so would they split off with a majority vote and then fight amongst themselves over determination of who sets the initial rules?
I believe I read one time that Texas has it written right in with their founding documents that they can split into 5 separate states if they wish.
Serious questions: When two sides go to war, do you think they really go to war for the same reason?The Southern documents of Secession all argue in favor of slavery. You pretty much lose the moral high ground right there. Which by the way, is a huge reason the South lost. Europe wouldn't have minded jumping in and seeing the US split but the South's pro-Slavery stance pretty much ended any hope that would happen.[
Lincoln and the Yankee carpet baggers are the ones who did all the oppressing.
It doesn't matter what the Southern documents of secession say. The bottom line is that Lincoln did not invade the South to end slavery. Secession did not start the war. Lincoln started the war when he blockaded Southern ports and invaded Virginia.
As usual, the Lincoln apologists all post the same old shopworn arguments, and they're all full of shit.
You're the one that think Liberals have no respect for the Constitution or for individual people. You folks only talk about secession when it's Liberals in power. Using logic and your own beliefs, you have zero chance of living through a successful secession.If you think the the U.S. government is going to use nukes on it's own people, then you really are one sick despicable fascist asshole. Furthermore, there's this thing called the Constitution which prevents the federal government from wiping out entire American cities. That's just a slight violation of the Constitutional rights of the people living in those cities.
