Scholz rejects ‘dictated peace’ for Ukraine as Europe reels after Trump-Putin call

[Zavulon]

No. Your nukes are your problem.



Nuke us and you will see what's your problem with your nukes. By the way: Nukes are not able to change what's true and as long as you hate truth you will always be able to nuke anyone on the whole planet who is "annoying" you. And to all Germans who should read this: My comment to our 200 years old discussion "Is to murder a tyrant murder?". Don't think so any longer. We should kill Putin, shouldn't we?

I never thought the Krauts essential. They are crude, and unspeakable plain. And for now, I didn't see even a glimmer of potential, even if allied to the proper vision and brain.

 

[zaangalewa]

Why do you keep insisting on providing your Bizzaroland explanations?

"Bizarroland" is a very good description as well for the USA and for Russia. Thanks for this word.

 

[zaangalewa]

I never thought the Krauts essential.

The "Krauts" are not only Celts and Germanics the "Krauts" are also Romans. And we founded in Europe more than one country. Well known are our creations England and France for example. Nearly unknown is our creation (V)andalusia. Common element in all of our creations: We became part of the indigen populations there and they became part of us.

We are much more essential than you are able to imagine in your nationalistic, imperialistic and murderous stupidity, slave of Putin.

They are crude, and unspeakable plain.

Also this, descendant of Genghis Khan's murderous hordes.

And for now, I didn't see even a glimmer of potential,

It's always difficult for spiritually blind people to see anything what's real in clear light. Be less mass-murdeous and criminal in your thoughts then you are perhaps able to turn your platonic airhead to the Neanderthal standing behind you with a solid club at the entrance to your shady, stupid multi-media world.

even if allied to the proper vision and brain.

You seem to be the same kind of lunatic that Goebbels had been. Do you plan to murder your own children when you will follow your master Putin into his suicide?

 

[eagle1462010]

Europe speaks for Europe.



Okay ... but messgeboards are "loud" ... . Counterquestion: What are you?



I do not fight Russia. Russia fights the Ukraine. And I see the worst enemy of Russia in Vladimir Puitin and the worst enemy of the USA in Donald Trump and their criminal gangs. And when I see how most nations of the world agree with Putin and Trump then I do not see a big hope for all mankind.



Germany has no nukes.



Ever thought about to buy a new exachange brain, weirdo?



For what? Example: In case the Russians had started a nuclear war the strategy of the NATO had it been to nuke a city in the centre of Germany so the Soviet armies will be blocked and not able to reach France and Great Britain. I guess this strategy is still strategy today. That this had caused the death of 50%-100% of all Germans was interesting for no one. We are only Germans. Enemies of anyone on the whole planet. Looks like the Ukrainians are also only Ukrainians because the Russian government and the US-American government and the UNO is full of heroic and proud criminals.



If you are ever in Bad Segeberg, come and visit us
We love sawing beech trees at the Bad Segeberg sawmill
The Bad Segeberg sawmill is truly unrivalled
We like to saw oak trees at the Bad Segeberg sawmill

At the Bad Segeberg sawmill we like to saw spruce trees
Which we then pile up nicely here at the sawmill
We like to saw fir trees at the Bad Segeberg sawmill
At the Bad Segeberg sawmill there are sometimes small breakdowns

The Bad Segeberg sawmill is our pride and joy. (Yo.)
There's a lot of sawn wood at the Bad Segeberg sawmill. (Yo.)
The Bad Segeberg sawmill is our pride and joy. (Yo.)
Nobody has 10 fingers at the Bad Segeberg sawmill. (Hey!)

We saw up plane trees at the Bad Segeberg sawmill
Our ancestors built the Bad Segeberg sawmill
At the Bad Segeberg sawmill we like to saw up pine trees
And poplar, walnut and cherry, ash, pear and robinia

At the Bad Segeberg sawmill we like to saw up birch trees
Which first look like slices of birch in the sawmill
We like to saw alders at the Bad Segeberg sawmill
The Bad Segeberg sawmill is full of real blokes

The Bad Segeberg sawmill is our pride and joy. (Yo.)
There's a lot of sawn wood at the Bad Segeberg sawmill. (Yo.)
Your fireplace will be nice and warm with wood from our sawmill. (Yo.)
People like to saw into their arms here at the sawmill. (Hey!)

We like to saw pine trees at the Bad Segeberg sawmill
Which we deliver from the sawmill to France and Spain
We like to saw yew trees at the Bad Segeberg sawmill
Which we then distribute in France and Spain

We like to saw lime trees at the Bad Segeberg sawmill
The slices can then be found in France and Spain
We saw chestnuts at the Bad Segeberg sawmill
We deliver them from the sawmill to France and Spain

The Bad Segeberg sawmill is our pride and joy. (Yo.)
There's a lot of sawn wood at the Bad Segeberg sawmill. (Yo.)
The Bad Segeberg sawmill is the most beautiful thing here. (Yo.)
Nobody plays the piano at the Segeberg sawmill anymore. (Hey!)

The Bad Segeberg sawmill is in the centre of Bad Segeberg
And when I feel like sawing, I drive quickly to the sawmill
I don't need a sat nav because I remember all the routes myself
Before I get tired and sluggish, I quickly drive to Bad Segeberg
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The Bad Segeberg sawmill is our pride and joy. (Yo.)
There's a lot of sawn wood at the Bad Segeberg sawmill. (Yo.)
Working here at the sawmill is a dream come true for us. (Yo.)
It's nice here in the sawmill. There's a thumb up ahead. (Yo.)

You do not fight Russia.

Exactly. Made my point

 

[Zavulon]

The "Krauts" are not only Celts and Germanics the "Krauts" are also Romans. And we founded in Europe more than one country. Well known are our creations England and France for example. Nearly unknown is our creation (V)andalusia. Common element in all of our creations: We became part of the indigen populations there and they became part of us.

We are much more essential than you are able to imagine in your nationalistic, imperialistic and murderous stupidity, slave of Putin.



Also this, descendant of Genghis Khan's murderous hordes.



It's always difficult for spiritually blind people to see anything what's real in clear light. Be less mass-murdeous and criminal in your thoughts then you are perhaps able to turn your platonic airhead to the Neanderthal standing behind you with a solid club at the entrance to your shady, stupid multi-media world.



You seem to be the same kind of lunatic that Goebbels had been. Do you plan to murder your own children when you will follow your master Putin into his suicide?

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As I said. No manners, no dignity, not even the slightest shade of erudition. Especially with someone with a lion on the avatar. Didn't you watch Lion King cartoon?

 

[Correll]

By not speaking with the brave people who are dying for the freedom of the western world and by tyring to steal their ressources and to give away land of them to their enemy and to let live them in the danger to be genocided? And by increasing the danger of a nuclear war with a totally wrong from of appeasement politics? Don't be kiddy - or better: Be much more childdy. Not even a child would make such a bad deal which might even end with the suicide of the USA.



What Donald Trump really wants to see and to do you have not any lousy idea about, slave of Trump,.



No one likes to see only one killed Ukrainian. No one, superasshole. Except the Russians. The Ukrainians fight for the survival of their country. They like to be a free and independent country under free and independent countries and like not to be transformed into soulless slaves of Russian fake-Borgs.

Again: They fight for the survival of their country and the future of their people. That's why many Ukrainian heroes and freedom fighters give their life. But many more will perhaps die now - perhaps the Ukraine will lose at all - because of the wrong politics of the USA under the criminal high traitor Donald Trump.

Whatever you say - I say: Dear Ukrainians, whatever will happen and how limited our own ressources might be - we Germans will always be at the side of a free and independent democratic republic for all Ukrainians. Not only in victory but also in defeat. You are not alone - as helpless as we might be sometimes on our own.
....

YOu really didn't say anything there, other than spam... some negative sounding... .... I don't even know what they were. Vague ideas of yours about what might happen?


"danger to be genocided"? What does that mean? That there is a force nearby that could committ genocide? By that standard EVERYONE on the planet is in that danger.


My point stands. I want peace. You oppose me, but your reasons are incoherent.

 

[zaangalewa]

You do not fight Russia.

Exactly. Made my point

I do not fight Russia and I do not fight the USA. But Russia and the USA fight Germany and Europe (and fight also Russia and the USA). Currently I have no solution for this problem but I'm able to imagine what universal laws say to this problem: "We hate it. We will wipe out Europe, Asia and America". And then the Chinese and Indians will answer: "Ahem, dear universe. Did you forget that we live also on this planet?" And the universe will answer "Damn!" and will start to think a few billionths of a second long. Looks like we are somehow alone now - the Ukraine and Germany. And Germany is also under heavy propagandistic fire of the Russian slaves and the US-American spitlickers who both support Nazis from the political party AfD in Germany - what is also causing heavy problems.

 

[zaangalewa]

As I said. No manners, no dignity, not even the slightest shade of erudition. Especially with someone with a lion on the avatar. Didn't you watch Lion King cartoon?

Aha - next step of extremist propaganda - what means you have not any real love and any real rationality in your thoughts and emotions any longer - if you ever had at all. When you will win - and it looks like you will win with the help of the USA, poor 'we-Russian' - then Satan will win. ... Oh ... now I understand why so many people use the 'laugh out loud' emoji in a wrong way. I guess Satana loves this wrong from of amusement. Whatever.

 

[zaangalewa]

... I want peace. ...

I don't think so, spitlicker of Dagobert Trump. "You" (= the USA under Dagobert Trump and All-Is Murks) want money, power and glory. Human beings are totally unimportant for them and their ally Putin.



After standing and walking, you learnt the trick
How to swallow tears, push away feelings
It's been ages since you stood in front of me
Crying snot and water
Back then I knew exactly
Which of the plasters you needed
We killed the monsters, many a bottle of wine
Downed up on the roof
Philosophised about the perfect toast
And by the way
Fixed our world
Ask me if you're freezing too

There's no wind that doesn't turn
No circle that doesn't close
I want you to know, I want you to know
There's someone who sees you
Even if you think no one can hear you here
And your own laughter disturbs you
I want you to know, I want you to know

I didn't notice you drifting away
Almost losing your way in the ocean of silence
Come on, let's take up the armour today so we don't sink
Let's turn free
Passing by the rivers
Come, take my hand and we'll shrink the world
Just for one day like David Bowie's hero
Looking for the golden grave, not looking back
Into the labyrinth of thoughts, ey we can do it
Looking for the easy in the sense

There's no wind that doesn't turn
No circle that doesn't close
I want you to know, I want you to know
There's someone who sees you
Even if you think no one here can hear you
And your own laughter disturbs you
I want you to know, I want you to know

I'm here for you
When your house is on fire
When nothing moves your heart
I'll be there
I'll paint you flowers on the tarmac
I'll be your shore, give you support
I'll be there

...

 

[Ringo]

 

[zaangalewa]

Did you say something, fan of the devilish tyrant Stalin?

 

[Correll]

I don't think so, spitlicker of Dagobert Trump. "You" (= the USA under Dagobert Trump and All-Is Murks) want money, power and glory. Human beings are totally unimportant for them and their ally Putin.

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Except, you are on the side that wants to keep spending human beings so that we can bleed Putin's russia dry.


That is YOU and YOUR SIDE, not caring about the human beings.


I am the one dismissing all the supposed benefits of the war, and putting the human lives of the ukrainians above all of that.

 

[zaangalewa]

Except, you are on the side that wants to keep spending human beings so that we can bleed Putin's russia dry.


That is YOU and YOUR SIDE, not caring about the human beings.


I am the one dismissing all the supposed benefits of the war, and putting the human lives of the ukrainians above all of that.

Nice way to say "Let the USA plunder Ukraine and give it away to Russia. This will decisively dishonour Europe and finally eliminate Attic democracy. Long live tyranny."

Undear superidiot mine: The survival of millions of people and their country is not a question of US-American entertainment by the political superidiot Dagobert Trump. The Ukrainians fought 3 years - with much more success than anyone was able to imagine - and now they will have to become victims of a comic book education? How absurde and contemptuous of humanity is this?

 

[Correll]

Nice way to say "Let the USA plunder Ukraine and give it away to Russia. This will decisively dishonour Europe and finally eliminate Attic democracy. Long live tyranny."

Undear superidiot mine: The survival of millions of people and their country is not a question of US-American entertainment by the political superidiot Dagobert Trump.

The final deal will NOT involve the death of millions of ukrainians, nor of their country.

You are talking shit to try to hide the fact that you are on the side of not caring about human beings on this issue.

The final deal with bring peace to Ukraine, they can live and rebuild and have lives. Hopefully nice ones.


YOU will not admit it, nor ever apologize for the terrible, shitty and false things you have said about me or maga voters, or Trump.

 

[zaangalewa]

The final deal will NOT involve the death of millions of ukrainians, nor of their country.

You are talking shit to try to hide the fact that you are on the side of not caring about human beings on this issue.

The final deal with bring peace to Ukraine, they can live and rebuild and have lives. Hopefully nice ones.


YOU will not admit it, nor ever apologize for the terrible, shitty and false things you have said about me or maga voters, or Trump.

DAMN ALIEN ASSHHOLE. YOU HAVE NOT TO DECIDE WHAT ONLY UKRAINIANS ARE ABLE TO DECIDE.

The Ukrainians have to give to the USA not one cent. If they could have foreseen your pitiful behaviour, they could have surrendered immediately and would not have had to defend themselves for three hard years against an overpowering enemy.

I suggest to all NATO members to leave the NATO and to found a new NATO without USA. This would be equivalent to throw out the USA of the NATO without to have to ask them wether they like to stay or not.

 

[Correll]

DAMN ALIEN ASSHHOLE. YOU HAVE NOT TO DECIDE WHAT ONLY UKRAINIANS ARE ABLE TO DECIDE.

The Ukrainians have to give to the USA not one cent. If they could have foreseen your pitiful behaviour, they could have surrendered immediately and would not have had to defend themselves for three hard years against an overpowering enemy.

Funny, you made an accusation that we were going to impose a deal with certain negative results.

When I promised that that would not happen, instead of being relieved, you attacked me...


How odd. It's almost like you didn't really care about the accusations you made. Because you knew they were bullshit.


You are upset, because you know I am right. YOU and your side, is the one that is using human beings as a spendable resource, while Trump and I am trying to save them.

 

[Deadstick]

Of course they will those bastards have always grovelled before the Empire, look at that tin pot King of Jordan when he met Trump, he looked like he had been summoned to the headmasters office, he looked on the verge of a breakdown, that is how pathetic these people are, even lowering themselves to be complicit in Genocide.

 

[zaangalewa]

Funny, you made an accusation that we were going to impose a deal with certain negative results.

When I promised that that would not happen, instead of being relieved, you attacked me...


How odd. It's almost like you didn't really care about the accusations you made. Because you knew they were bullshit.


You are upset, because you know I am right. YOU and your side, is the one that is using human beings as a spendable resource, while Trump and I am trying to save them.

Go to hell on your own. Don't try to send others to hell. Nearly u-n-b-e-l-i-e-v-a-b-l-e how stupid US-Americans are able to be if they like to be stupid. You come near to us - but we are much more perfect. If we will get stupid then ...

 

[zaangalewa]

Of course ...

Do you see a message from Ringo?

 

[Zavulon]

DAMN ALIEN ASSHHOLE. YOU HAVE NOT TO DECIDE WHAT ONLY UKRAINIANS ARE ABLE TO DECIDE.

If they want to allow Ukrainians to decide by themselves - they should open borders, and you shouldn't pay them, to make their decisions truly independent. You didn't "support Ukrainians". You just hired some crooks and Neo-Nazi militants to suppress local opposition and force them to kill Russians. Corrupted Ukrainian, American and European politicians got their billions. Corrupted Ukrainian head-hunters and servants of regime got their millions. Ordinary Ukrainians are dying in the unwinnable war, and ordinary western people are losing their money.

I suggest to all NATO members to leave the NATO and to found a new NATO without USA. This would be equivalent to throw out the USA of the NATO without to have to ask them wether they like to stay or not.

And we all know, how you'll name it. The Fourth Reich.

We may not agree on everything with Americans. Actually, there are a lot of things we disagree. But, at least, they are pragmatical. They are not suicidal mass-murders as Europeans. United and unleashed Europe means a big war. Really big. In in this war you'll be defeated, and, may be, even eliminated.