Scholz rejects ‘dictated peace’ for Ukraine as Europe reels after Trump-Putin call

[zaangalewa]

I dont need a lecture

You need many lectures. But I give no lectures. Contempt is no lecture.

from a guy from a country that started 2 World Wars

What's just simple wrong.

and has been in the NOSE BLEEDS for over half a century.

Eh?

Do you need a translation?

Could be interesting to read this. Translate please what you said here into Swiss German (=Aleman).

 

[zaangalewa]

You sank our ships WWI,

I will never understand why US-Americans are so absolutelly ignorant idiots. The Lusitania was a British ship. You transported weapons with passenger ships to Great Britain. Accidentally the Lusitania was not torpedoed with a modern weapon. It had normally needed a very long time for this ship to sink. But the amunition you transported exploded and it sank damn fast. The criminal had been the USA in this case.
Two years later you found out that Germany and their allies will win World War 1 and your money you gave to their enemies was lost. So you changed history by taking part in world war 1 two years later - what changed the result of this war so the colonial empires wan against the multi-national empires. By doing so you created the still active modern problems Nazis, Soviets and Islamists - while on the other side all "solutions" of World War 1 exploded and are still exploding. But you doubled your economy.

This change was by the way made from the British secret service who used "their" US-American secret service to fight against US-Americans who were against the idea to send the USA into a war in Europe. In the end you took part in this war because of a total desinformation campaign in the USA. The British and US-American secret services had not even been shy to construct desinformations specially for your president Woodrow Wilson.

and declared War on us WWII.

Hitler declared war on the USA the day after Pearl Harbor. You had been able to ignore this. Germany had not been able to attack the USA. Indeed you did do to Hitler a favor when you attacked Germany.

You fucked around

Germans who "**** around" get babies. But we are dying out.

and found out.

And found out what? ...

 

[eagle1462010]

I will never understand why US-Americans are so absolutelly ignorant idiots. The Lusitania was a British ship. You transported weapons with passenger ships to Great Britain. Accidentally the Lusitania was not torpedoed with a modern weapon. It had normally needed a very long time for this ship to sink. But the amunition you transported exploded and it sank damn fast. The criminal had been the USA in this case.
Two years later you found out that Germany and their allies will win World War 1 and your money you gave to their enemies was lost. So you changed history by taking part in world war 1 two years later - what changed the result of this war so the colonial empires wan against the multi-national empires. By doing so you created the still active modern problems Nazis, Soviets and Islamists - while on the other side all "solutions" of World War 1 exploded and are still exploding. But you doubled your economy.

This change was by the way made from the British secret service who used "their" US-American secret service to fight against US-Americans who were against the idea to send the USA into a war in Europe. In the end you took part in this war because of a total desinformation campaign in the USA. The British and US-American secret services had not even been shy to construct desinformations specially for your president Woodrow Wilson.



Hitler declared war on the USA the day after Pearl Harbor. You had been able to ignore this. Germany had not been able to attack the USA. Indeed you did do to Hitler a favor when you attacked Germany.



Germans who "**** around" get babies. But we are dying out.



And found out what? ...

Did you win either War?

 

[zaangalewa]

Did you win either War?

We never wan any war as far as I know.

 

[eagle1462010]

We never wan any war as far as I know.

Exactly

 

[zaangalewa]

Exactly

And? What's your conclusion or what do you like to say with this statement? When the USA knew that you win any war on Germany - why did you do war on Germany? Why are you now in war on Germany and Europe together with the Russians? Because you like to win? Sure you will win - the question is only what you will win. Why is a destroyed Europe and a destroyed Germany and a dead Ukraine worthful for you?

 

[eagle1462010]

And? What's your conclusion or what do you like to say with this statement? When the USA knew that you win any war on Germany - why did you do war on Germany? Why are you now in war on Germany and Europe together with the Russians? Because you like to win? Sure you will win - the question is only what you will win. Why is a destroyed Europe and a destroyed Germany and a dead Ukraine worthful for you?

I didnt say we wanted a War with you idiot.

I said defend your own back yard. Then I said you started 2 World Wars snd are pushing for another one with Russia.

 

[zaangalewa]

I didnt say we wanted a War with you idiot.

What you want or not want is uninteresting for me. You are in war with Europe and Germany and the Ukraine while fighting for the Stalinist Putin. And you are also in war with yourselve.

I said defend your own back yard.

What we do or not do is what we will do or not do. Calling Russia a backyard of Germany is by the way slightly presumptuous. The German word "vermessen" for "presumptuous" means by the way verbally "wrong measured"

Then I said you started 2 World Wars

What only shows that you prefer to live in wrong propagandistic structures - in wrong narratives. But wrong narratives do not tell you anything about reality.

snd are pushing for another one with Russia.

Eh? Question: Are you an AI? You speak partially totally confused nonsense. What has Germany to do with Putins Stalinistic Russia? Nothing or nothing? What has Germany to do with the USA? Also nothing. Why are all the idiots all around the world doing what they are doing? Why thinks every idiot on this planet he has a god given right to hate Germany?



Longing is the name of an old taiga song
That my mother sang back then
Longing was in the play of the balaleika
When it sounded outside the house in the evening

And today only short dreams remain
That often arise before me on long nights
And a thousand fears that I'll miss it
To see the beloved taiga once more.

Longing is the many hot tears
And the hope that resonates in my heart
Longing is still in the notes
In the evening, when the old song rings out

Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-dei-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da

The endless steppes and the deep forests
That often appear before me like gray shadows,
Misty rivers, dew-covered fields
I'd like to see it all again once, once

Longing is the old song of the taiga
That my mother sang back then
Longing was in the play of the balaleika
When it sounded outside the house in the evening

 

[cnm]

Fine then Jack, you pay the damn bills.

The thing you'll really start to appreciate is that it is more and more likely the US $ won't be the currency used to pay them. The US is providing the ultimate incentive for countries to not rely on the country or the currency.

Might as well enjoy your 'reserve' status while you've got it.

 

[cnm]

We never wan any war as far as I know.

Franco-Prussian not counted?

 

[zaangalewa]

Franco-Prussian not counted?

No idea what you speak about. The support of Hitler for Franko in Spain? ... Oh - the stupid war on France in 1870. The Prussian king became emperor of an artificial national construct which had been created with violence, lies, deceit and bribery. One of Germany's biggest defeats. In 1845 in the so called German revolution the Prussian king was offered to become emperor by the peoples grace. He was upset. Now the Prussians became emperors from god's grace in the tradition of Napoleon Bonaparte and the absolutism of Versailles. The joke: The Prussians provoked the French to declare war on Germany so all Germans had been forced "to defend" Prussia = Germany. A short time before Prussia had conquered many German nations/cuntries and had called them "colony of Prussia". British imperialistic and colonialistic influence. Indeed this will lead to the absurde situation that the Brit and Prussian Willhelm II - Prussian emperor over Germany - will make Germany "british". This will bring the Brits to the idea to fight on Germany because they saw in Germany grow their own way of colonialistic and imperialistic politics.

Indeed the Prussians had wiped out Germany completely for a short time of history when they had founded the so called "Norddeutscher Bund" (1866-1871).

Here a card from the year 1850

 

[Correll]

You did do two times war on Germany together with Russia. Although Germany never had done anything bad to the USA. Not before World War 1, not in World War 1, not between World War 1+2, not in World War 2 and not after World War 2. Nevertheless you are the worst enemy Germany ever had and you control and weaken Germany since decades now. Nevertheless we also do not do anything bad to you now in front of World War 3 when you will perhaps again attack us and Europe together with Russia. What do you say what can't happen in history, grandson?

....

We are negotiating a peace deal to end the war in Ukraine.

That is NOT an alliance with russia to attack Germany.


You want us out of germany or out of europe, all you have to do is get your fellow germans or fellow europeans to ask US to leave and we will leave. Hell, I'm half ready to leave if you DON'T ask US.


At this point it seems you disagreement is with your fellow germans, not US.

 

[Zavulon]

What had Cathrine to do with the university in Königsberg in 1758? Nothing or nothing? Her husband came in 1762 in power and she had to replace this drunkard about 9 month later also in 1762.

On March 15, 1770, Christoph Langhansen (1691-1770), who had been full professor of mathematics since 1719, died: one of the eight full-time positions in the Faculty of Philosophy could be filled. From the surviving correspondence between Kant, the university, the government and the ministry, it is clear that Kant, with the consent of King Frederick II, had arranged for an exchange of posts, which resulted in the transfer of Friedrich Johann Buck (1722-1786), who had been Professor of Logic and Metaphysics since 1759, to the professorship of mathematics vacated by Langhansen's death and led to Kant's own successful application for the vacant professorship of Logic and Metaphysics.

Source: Kant als Professor - Kant in Olsztyn

And Immanuel Kant was not Polish and was no Russian. He had been only a German but spoke many languages.

Back in 1758 Kant was a Master of Philosophy in Köningberg university and a loyal subject of Russian Empire (coz Eastern Prussia was a part of Russian Empire in time), when Her Imperial Majestu Empress Elizabeth (not Catherine) was a leader of Russia. He begged for being appointed on the position of Professor. But Russia (likely, Andrey Bolotov, who was interested in studing of German philosophy) chosed Master Buck, and only twelve years later Kant became a professor.

So, according your logic, if everyone who lived in Ukraine back in 2014 were Ukrainians, than, of course, Immanuel Kant, back in 1758 was a Russian, because he lived in Russia. Right?

 

[Zavulon]

No.

Read about it. It might be useful for you

No. I am a German who speaks only German. English is for me only a German dialect.

Actually, English is one of German "languages", not "dialects", but anyway.

Who is "we". And believe it or not: Still I am not dead - what's partially also my own fault.

The philosophical question is simple. Do Germans (with or without including in this group English-speakers) think as proper human beings (i.e. Russians) or you just imitate the process of thinking?

Do you ask wether I understand slaves of Vladimir Putin and spitlickers of Donald Trump? Your spirit is strange - your words are empty - but why not? It's not easy to understand why criminals like you are doing what they are doing - but it is not impossible.

But if you think that my words are "empty", it means that you didn't truly understand them. And hence we are returning to the same question. Why didn't you understand us? One could see some possibilities - you don't want to understand us, because you are too evil, or you simply can't understand us, because you are too stupid.

 

[zaangalewa]

We are negotiating a peace deal to end the war in Ukraine. ...

No. Russia gives you their not existing right to force the Ukraine to give you their natural ressouces which they will need rebuilding Ukraine after the war - and you give Russians your not existing right to exclude the Ukraine from the NATO forever and your not existing right to rob big parts of the Ukraine.

In other words: You both - and no one else - are distributing the Ukrainian cake that is not due to either of you but is due to the Ukrainian crumbs that you both care less than nothing about. This is what enemies of all mankind are doing - but not what someone is doing who has a feeling for justice and the neccessities of life.

But I'm sure if Trump and Putin would negotiate about your house since the Mafia continuously attacks you then you will be damn happy that your are not able to call the police stopping this Mafia and a judge who forbids Trump and Putin to sell to each other parts of your house.

 

[zaangalewa]

Back in 1758 Kant was a Master of Philosophy in Köningberg university and a loyal subject of Russian Empire (coz Eastern Prussia was a part of Russian Empire in time) ...

No. "East Prussia" ... more exact the kingdom Prussia - was in the origin a Polish kingdom - not for Poles but for Prusens. The Prusens disappeared because of marriages with Baltic Germans, Poles and Lithuanians. The Prince of Brandenburg became in 1701 King in Prussia as the legal successor to the dynasty that died out there. And since this time the king in/of Prussia always only had been the prince of Brandenburg and never a Russian dynasty. You occupied [East-]Prussia after world war 2. You murdered and displaced (=genocided) the population of Prussia - which is now called "Oblast Kaliningrad". Since world war 2 live Russians there.

So your story is absurde - but I guess I never got a story from Russia about history which not had been totally absurde. I fear you are the worst historians of the planet. Better to ask: What is the name of your planet at all? Only Russia?

 

[sparky]

YANKEE GO HOME - does that ring a bell?? - remember why??

We've spent a century defending you from yourselves , helped rebuild you , helped you join the 'world community' , helped you stand up on your own

I won't speak for all Americans, but i'll wager most have no problem pulling out of your end of this rock

you ingrates deserve to be on your own

~S~

 

[Zavulon]

No. Russia gives you their not existing right to force the Ukraine to give you their natural ressouces which they will need rebuilding Ukraine after the war - and you give Russians your not existing right to exclude the Ukraine from the NATO forever and your not existing right to rob big parts of the Ukraine.

In other words: You both - and no one else - are distributing the Ukrainian cake that is not due to either of you but is due to the Ukrainian crumbs that you both care less than nothing about. This is what enemies of all mankind are doing - but not what someone is doing who has a feeling for justice and the neccessities of life.

But I'm sure if Trump and Putin would negotiate about your house since the Mafia continuously attacks you then you will be damn happy that your are not able to call the police stopping this Mafia and a judge who forbids Trump and Putin to sell to each other parts of your house.

No. Russia and America together (at least at the level of rhetoric) want to build a system of equal rights and equal safety for all good people and find a positive, mutually profitable solution. While EU, and, specifically, Germany, defend the stupid and suicidal position of "non-existing right" of Ukrainian nationalists to abuse and kill local Russians and the "non-existing right" of Germans to deploy troops and weapons in Ukraine (to attack Russian Federation) and delusional possibility of "winning the war with Russia".

Russian, and (at least at the level of rhetoric) American position - is pro-Russian, pro-American and even pro-European and pro-Ukrainian. Your position is anti-Russian, anti-American, and it is, in fact, anti-European.

 

[Tyrion234]

His prename is "Olaf" not "Jack".



Wrong. In reality, the USA has betrayed Europe and left the NATO with its unreliability. Nevertheless likes Donald Trump to be the leader of this defense alliance. Donald Trump speaks not for anyone else in the world than the USA. Also not for the NATO or for Europe. And whether Putin likes to speak with him is not clear at all.



Now you are more than only stupid. The USA is a European nation born in the European enlightenment.



You want to disempower Ukraine and Ukrainians? This is also what Putin wants to do. Who gave Donald Trump any right to speak in the name of the Ukraine?



Distance USA-Ukraine 9000 km. Distance Germany-Ukraine 1500 km. When the Russians under the Stalinist Putin will conquer the Ukraine we will have to calculate in Germany 10 million more refugees from the Ukraine. In gernrela the Ukrainians don't like to be wiped out from the Russians - as the Russians did do with so many nations and populations. The USA for sure will not help Ukrainian refugees.

Who gave Trump any right?!?! Um Ukraine did when they took our ******* money you dumb ****

 

[sparky]

Russia and America together (at least at the level of rhetoric) want to build a system of equal rights and equal safety for all good people and find a positive, mutually profitable solution.

we're the two big dogs Zav, it's up to us , not these obnoxious ankle biters ....~S~