Putin rejects compromise on Ukraine despite Trump’s push for peace

[JimH52]

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Russian President Vladimir Putin gave a clear indication Wednesday that he will not compromise on his demands for Ukraine to cede territory despite US President Donald Trump’s intensifying push for peace.

In a combative speech delivered as US and European leaders engage in frantic diplomatic efforts to secure a peace agreement, Putin lashed out at Ukraine’s European allies and said Russia would take territory by force if necessary.

The trump plan is coming together. trump pushes Zelensky to give Russia practically everything they wants and when Putin wants more, trump will blame Zelensky. trump is afraid of Putin. If you can't see that, you are not watching. Maybe time for another red carpet meeting?

 

[Rawley]

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Russian President Vladimir Putin gave a clear indication Wednesday that he will not compromise on his demands for Ukraine to cede territory despite US President Donald Trump’s intensifying push for peace.

In a combative speech delivered as US and European leaders engage in frantic diplomatic efforts to secure a peace agreement, Putin lashed out at Ukraine’s European allies and said Russia would take territory by force if necessary.

The trump plan is coming together. trump pushes Zelensky to give Russia practically everything they wants and when Putin wants more, trump will blame Zelensky. trump is afraid of Putin. If you can't see that, you are not watching. Maybe time for another red carpet meeting?

I'll bite. Why is the President afraid of Putin?

 

[theHawk]

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Russian President Vladimir Putin gave a clear indication Wednesday that he will not compromise on his demands for Ukraine to cede territory despite US President Donald Trump’s intensifying push for peace.

In a combative speech delivered as US and European leaders engage in frantic diplomatic efforts to secure a peace agreement, Putin lashed out at Ukraine’s European allies and said Russia would take territory by force if necessary.

The trump plan is coming together. trump pushes Zelensky to give Russia practically everything they wants and when Putin wants more, trump will blame Zelensky. trump is afraid of Putin. If you can't see that, you are not watching. Maybe time for another red carpet meeting?

It’s just a response to Zelensky making unreasonable demands. Russia isn’t going to give up the land they won in war.

Of course warmongers will just claim this is President Trump giving in to Putin. The reality is Ukraine lost and is barely being propped up by the US.

 

[excalibur]

Zelensky hasn't allowed elections in years. And the leftoids have no problem with that. You know, the 'muh, democracy' crowd.

 

[Muhammed]

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Russian President Vladimir Putin gave a clear indication Wednesday that he will not compromise on his demands for Ukraine to cede territory despite US President Donald Trump’s intensifying push for peace.

In a combative speech delivered as US and European leaders engage in frantic diplomatic efforts to secure a peace agreement, Putin lashed out at Ukraine’s European allies and said Russia would take territory by force if necessary.

The trump plan is coming together. trump pushes Zelensky to give Russia practically everything they wants and when Putin wants more, trump will blame Zelensky. trump is afraid of Putin. If you can't see that, you are not watching. Maybe time for another red carpet meeting?

You're a moron. Nobody in Donbas or Crimea ever voted for Zelensky

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I'll bite. Why is the President afraid of Putin?

For the same reason everyone is. Because Putin is a maniac who is making offensive nuclear threats.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You're a moron. Nobody in Donbas or Crimea ever voted for Zelensky

Well thats a lie, as far as Donbas is concerned.

Of course Russia had already invaded and stolen Crimea, by 2019. People in Crimea won't get to vote in a real election for a very long time, apparently.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Such a shame we get democrat presidents. Under dem presidents, Putin invades and steals land. They only behave if Trump is president.

Yet this is ANOTHER mess that Trump inherited from Biden. Remember what Biden told Putin about invading? "Don't." Putin said **** you you old child molesting senile slob. Trump told Putin if you invade Ukraine we will bomb Moscow. He behaved until Trump was out of office. Putin fears the **** out of Trump.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Such a shame we get democrat presidents. Under dem presidents, Putin invades and steals land.

This ^^ is why we need more people to go to college, not fewer.

 

[Rawley]

For the same reason everyone is. Because Putin is a maniac who is making offensive nuclear threats.

seems like a legitimate fear.

 

[elektra]

trump is afraid of Putin.

Me too, I am afraid of an KGB Marxist now the dictator of Russia with his finger on the button to launch nuclear war.

Fools are not afraid ...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

seems like a legitimate fear.

Indeed. Putin needs to go. Yesterday. At least the Cold War was based on defensive nuclear postures. Putin has jumped the shark, and he must go.

 

[Rawley]

Indeed. Putin needs to go. Yesterday. At least the Cold War was based on defensive nuclear postures. Putin has jumped the shark, and he must go.

Agree. Any suggestions as to how we make him go?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Agree. Any suggestions as to how we make him go?

What we are doing is about it. Try to make his country and his oligarchs suffer, until the trash takes itself out.

 

[struth]

MSN

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Russian President Vladimir Putin gave a clear indication Wednesday that he will not compromise on his demands for Ukraine to cede territory despite US President Donald Trump’s intensifying push for peace.

In a combative speech delivered as US and European leaders engage in frantic diplomatic efforts to secure a peace agreement, Putin lashed out at Ukraine’s European allies and said Russia would take territory by force if necessary.

The trump plan is coming together. trump pushes Zelensky to give Russia practically everything they wants and when Putin wants more, trump will blame Zelensky. trump is afraid of Putin. If you can't see that, you are not watching. Maybe time for another red carpet meeting?

Putin has no pressure for peace he will keep killing Ukrainians so long as the dems are undermining any peace plan

 

[kyzr]

I'll bite. Why is the President afraid of Putin?

What makes you think he's afraid of Putin?
He could be just looking for middle ground.

 

[Yarddog]

What we are doing is about it. Try to make his country and his oligarchs suffer, until the trash takes itself out.

That and try to make it more uncomfortable for any other country offering him support.

 

[Zavulon]

Indeed. Putin needs to go. Yesterday. At least the Cold War was based on defensive nuclear postures.

Of course no. There were a lot of offensive conceptions. Actually, Deterrence Type II (Providing Multistability in modern language) is all about attacking nuclear postures.

Putin has jumped the shark, and he must go.

It is neither Russia, nor Shanghai Block deploying Russian forces in Canada and genociding White AngloSaxon Protestants. It is NATO came pretty close to Russian borders and it is NATO proxies who are killing Russian people.

 

[Zavulon]

Putin has no pressure for peace he will keep killing Ukrainians so long as the dems are undermining any peace plan

Any person has a pressurre for peace. At least peace is much less expensive and money is a good pressure for anyone. The problem, that your decision-makers failed to recognise is that right now Russia doesn't act in the logic of "oversea raid", comparing losses and profits, and if losses are larger than profis, it's time to damage control and taking leave. Right now Russians are acting in the logic of "elimination of threat". "We are under attack", and more dangerous and devastating is enemies attack - then more Russians are interested in the elimination of the threat. Because if they don't eliminate this threat - this threat will eliminate them.

Americans would fight even more fierce if they face the threat of "decolonisation of North America" (meaning elimination of all Americans of European, Asian or African heritage).

 

[Zavulon]

Agree. Any suggestions as to how we make him go?

It won't change a thing. Russians are not a zombie horde lead by a King of Night or something. They are smart and basically free people. You kill Putin - Medvedev or Mishustion or anybody else will continue his work.
There is no "party of peace" in Russia, because you can't be a Russian politician and support genocide of Russians. Oversimplificating, there are party of "coercers" who believe that by combination of diplomatic, economic and military efforts Russia can coerce West in mutually acceptable peace, and there is a party of "eliminators", who believe that its all wasting time and resources and Russia should just eliminate them all. Of course, the difference between them is arbitrary and fuzzy, because "coercers" believe that the threat of total annihilation is essential to keep control of escalation and "eliminators" are ready to accept unconditional surrender of the defeated enemy.