Scholz rejects ‘dictated peace’ for Ukraine as Europe reels after Trump-Putin call

[1srelluc]

Scholz rejects ‘dictated peace’ for Ukraine as Europe reels after Trump-Putin call

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Thursday said a deal to end the Ukraine war should not be imposed on Kyiv as European leaders warned of security implications on the continent after US President Donald…

www.france24.com

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Thursday said a deal to end the Ukraine war should not be imposed on Kyiv as European leaders warned of security implications on the continent after US President Donald Trump agreed to open negotiations with Russian President Vladimir Putin in a phone call.

Fine then Jack, you pay the damn bills.

They're welcome to join Ukraine if they want to have more of a say and become the main benefactors of the grift instead of the dems and gop neocons.

LOL, Europe tells the US what they want, hell, without the US there is NO NATO and NO Europe, Ukraine is certainly in no position to negotiate with Putin, and neither are the EU weenies like Scholz.

 

[Leo123]

Scholz rejects ‘dictated peace’ for Ukraine as Europe reels after Trump-Putin call

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Thursday said a deal to end the Ukraine war should not be imposed on Kyiv as European leaders warned of security implications on the continent after US President Donald…

www.france24.com

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Thursday said a deal to end the Ukraine war should not be imposed on Kyiv as European leaders warned of security implications on the continent after US President Donald Trump agreed to open negotiations with Russian President Vladimir Putin in a phone call.

Fine then Jack, you pay the damn bills.

They're welcome to join Ukraine if they want to have more of a say and become the main benefactors of the grift instead of the dems and gop neocons.

LOL, Europe tells the US what they want, hell, without the US there is NO NATO and NO Europe, Ukraine is certainly in no position to negotiate with Putin, and neither are the EU weenies like Scholz.

Friggin Kraut. Germans hate America anyway.

 

[jwoodie]

Germany is increasingly irrelevant.

 

[1srelluc]

Friggin Kraut. Germans hate America anyway.

I bet my long-passed uncle's jaw (vet of ETO Battle of Hürtgen Forest/ Battle of the Bulge/ POW) would drop to the floor if he was alive to see what abject pussys the squareheads have become.

 

[Litwin]

Scholz

Friggin Kraut. Germans hate America anyway.

Germany is increasingly irrelevant.

There is nothing more to add.

in the same time :

 

[zaangalewa]

Scholz rejects ‘dictated peace’ for Ukraine as Europe reels after Trump-Putin call

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Thursday said a deal to end the Ukraine war should not be imposed on Kyiv as European leaders warned of security implications on the continent after US President Donald…

www.france24.com

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Thursday said a deal to end the Ukraine war should not be imposed on Kyiv as European leaders warned of security implications on the continent after US President Donald Trump agreed to open negotiations with Russian President Vladimir Putin in a phone call.

Fine then Jack, you pay the damn bills.

His prename is "Olaf" not "Jack".

They're welcome to join Ukraine if they want to have more of a say and become the main benefactors of the grift instead of the dems and gop neocons.

LOL, Europe tells the US what they want, hell, without the US there is NO NATO

Wrong. In reality, the USA has betrayed Europe and left the NATO with its unreliability. Nevertheless likes Donald Trump to be the leader of this defense alliance. Donald Trump speaks not for anyone else in the world than the USA. Also not for the NATO or for Europe. And whether Putin likes to speak with him is not clear at all.

and NO Europe,

Now you are more than only stupid. The USA is a European nation born in the European enlightenment.

Ukraine is certainly in no position to negotiate with Putin,

You want to disempower Ukraine and Ukrainians? This is also what Putin wants to do. Who gave Donald Trump any right to speak in the name of the Ukraine?

and neither are the EU weenies like Scholz.

Distance USA-Ukraine 9000 km. Distance Germany-Ukraine 1500 km. When the Russians under the Stalinist Putin will conquer the Ukraine we will have to calculate in Germany 10 million more refugees from the Ukraine. In gernrela the Ukrainians don't like to be wiped out from the Russians - as the Russians did do with so many nations and populations. The USA for sure will not help Ukrainian refugees.

 

[Seymour Flops]

There is nothing more to add.

Yes, wow! I hadn't thought of that.

You are absolutely correct that when Russia leaves Ukraine, the conflict will be over and the problem solved.

So, only one question for you: When will that happen, and what will prompt it? Okay, that's two questions. But if you and that chick in the picture are so confident, two questions should be nothing.

 

[zaangalewa]

Friggin Kraut. Germans hate America anyway.

Our problem is more that we never did do anything bad to the USA in all history of mankind. Not before World War 1, not in World War 1, not between World War 1+2, not in World War 2 and not after World War 2. You are like naughty grandchildren for us. On the other side: The USA hates Germany because of the crimes of the USA on Germany and the many German nations - like for example the Bohemians - who the allies of World War 1+2 wiped out. That's why you bomb down Germany since more than 100 years now with your totally stupid and blind war propaganda.

But now we could get a new problem. What will be when the USA will become a threat for the survival of all mankind?

 

[Litwin]

When will that happen,...?

when we stop putin´s pirate- tanker fleet

Why putin's "SHADOW PIRATE FLEET" Needs to be Stopped

I have a simple, historically used solutions to just this problem. Privateers (state sponsored piracy) AND Just use “Shadow Mines”: millions of unmarked sea mines surrounding Mongol - 🇷🇺🇸🇦Muscovite horde with no known country of origin. 👍

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[1srelluc]

His prename is "Olaf" not "Jack".



Wrong. In reality, the USA has betrayed Europe and left the NATO with its unreliability. Nevertheless likes Donald Trump to be the leader of this defense alliance. Donald Trump speaks not for anyone else in the world than the USA. Also not for the NATO or for Europe. And whether Putin likes to speak with him is not clear at all.



Now you are more than only stupid. The USA is a European nation born in the European enlightenment.



You want to disempower Ukraine and Ukrainians? This is also what Putin wants to do. Who gave Donald Trump any right to speak in the name of the Ukraine?



Distance USA-Ukraine 9000 km. Distance Germany-Ukraine 1500 km. When the Russians under the Stalinist Putin will conquer the Ukraine we will have to calculate in Germany 10 million more refugees from the Ukraine. In gernrela the Ukrainians don't like to be wiped out from the Russians - as the Russians did do with so many nations and populations. The USA for sure will not help Ukrainian refugees.

You people gave up on working for a solution so do you mind if someone without grift on their mind tries it?

 

[Seymour Flops]

when we stop putin´s pirate- tanker fleet

Why putin's "SHADOW PIRATE FLEET" Needs to be Stopped

I have a simple, historically used solutions to just this problem. Privateers (state sponsored piracy) AND Just use “Shadow Mines”: millions of unmarked sea mines surrounding Mongol - 🇷🇺🇸🇦Muscovite horde with no known country of origin. 👍

www.usmessageboard.com

Wait, it's on us?

I thought Russia was just supposed to leave, simple as that.

Why do we have to take all the risk?

 

[Kruska]

Scholz rejects ‘dictated peace’ for Ukraine as Europe reels after Trump-Putin call

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Thursday said a deal to end the Ukraine war should not be imposed on Kyiv as European leaders warned of security implications on the continent after US President Donald…

www.france24.com

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Thursday said a deal to end the Ukraine war should not be imposed on Kyiv as European leaders warned of security implications on the continent after US President Donald Trump agreed to open negotiations with Russian President Vladimir Putin in a phone call.

Fine then Jack, you pay the damn bills.

Those who kicked off the Ukraine-Russian war, need to pay the bills - you moron

And those two would be the US administrations that starting with BUSH sen. - promoted and enforced the NATO eastward-expansion, and Putin attacking Ukraine in 2014 and 2022.

Now with your tail between your legs YOU the USA wants to run to Mama - just as with Afghanistan and try to play the smart-ass with Europe.

FUCK US Foreign policy - FUCK TRUMP.

 

[Leo123]

Those who kicked off the Ukraine-Russian war, need to pay the bills - you moron

And those two would be the US administrations that starting with BUSH sen. - promoted and enforced the NATO eastward-expansion, and Putin attacking Ukraine in 2014 and 2022.

Now with your tail between your legs YOU the USA wants to run to Mama - just as with Afghanistan and try to play the smart-ass with Europe.

FUCK US Foreign policy - FUCK TRUMP.

Europe needs to step up or shut up.

 

[Kruska]

Europe needs to step up or shut up.

No YOU guy's need to shut up - and stop lying to yourself about paying for the European NATO.

Our common European defense budget is at around US$ 440 billion - and that of Russia is at around US$ 90 billion - last year - before that the average annual Russian defense budget since 1990 was at around US$ 45 billion - and that of Europe around US$ 300 billion.

How much the USA spends to maintain it's GLOBAL Hegemony is not our issue.
And those US assets in e.g. Germany and the UK - since 1990 have NEVER been needed nor used against Russia - but were essential for the USA to direct it's attention/policies towards Libya and the Middle-East. And to maintain it's political control over Europe.

Germany alone spend about 60% of Russia's defense budget from 1990 - 2022. FACT.
Check the internet - those figures are all available, instead of sprouting Trump bull.

FUCK US foreign policy - FUCK TRUMP

YANKEE GO HOME - does that ring a bell?? - remember why??

 

[Leo123]

No YOU guy's need to shut up - and stop lying to yourself about paying for the European NATO.

Our common European defense budget is at around US$ 440 billion - and that of Russia is at around US$ 90 billion - last year - before that the average annual Russian defense budget since 1990 was at around US$ 45 billion - and that of Europe around US$ 300 billion.

How much the USA spends to maintain it's GLOBAL Hegemony is not our issue.
And those US assets in e.g. Germany and the UK - since 1990 have NEVER been needed nor used against Russia - but were essential for the USA to direct it's attention/policies towards Libya and the Middle-East. And to maintain it's political control over Europe.

Germany alone spend about 60% of Russia's defense budget from 1990 - 2022. FACT.
Check the internet - those figures are all available, instead of sprouting Trump bull.

FUCK US foreign policy - FUCK TRUMP

YANKEE GO HOME - does that ring a bell?? - remember why??

You weren't meeting your 'budget' apparently.

 

[BackAgain]

Germany is increasingly irrelevant.

Don’t get them riled up. You know how they behave every half century or less.

 

[zaangalewa]

You people

Am I you people, you people?

gave up on working for a solution so do you mind if someone without grift on their mind tries it?

Which solution? Putin started a stupid, senseless and criminal war on Europe in the Ukraine. He has to end this war by leaving the Ukraine with all of his soldiers! Yesterday! If he has a different proposal or if the Ukraine makes a different proposal - I'm happy to consider it. But watching Donald Trump kissing Putin's ass to get some kind of advantage for himself is beyond my comprehension.

The man is simply embarrassing and a shame to watch in his arrogant super-stupidity. How many relevant political parties does the USA have that its president and his lickspittles can afford to try to pillory other nations like Germany internationally for allegedly suppressing freedom of opinion by officially supporting German Nazis who are not even supported by the most right-wing parties in Europe's democracies?

 

[Baron]

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz

LOL
Of course Donald has interest for his opinion

 

[Seymour Flops]

Those who kicked off the Ukraine-Russian war, need to pay the bills - you moron

And those two would be the US administrations that starting with BUSH sen. - promoted and enforced the NATO eastward-expansion, and Putin attacking Ukraine in 2014 and 2022.

Now with your tail between your legs YOU the USA wants to run to Mama - just as with Afghanistan and try to play the smart-ass with Europe.

FUCK US Foreign policy - FUCK TRUMP.

What?

You were going good there, as you described the fuckups of Bush, Obama, and Biden.

Russia left Ukraine alone when Trump was in office. Now he'll end that conflict as best as he can.

Or do you seriously want the killing to continue just to try and save Zelensky's ego?

 

[Kruska]

You weren't meeting your 'budget' apparently.

If I would be the German government, I would have never agreed to 2% - since our GDP is proportionately to our population far higher then that of e.g. France or the UK.