Say NO to the Popular Vote

[Aba Incieni]

DODGE! Just because Prop 8 might have been about some personal freedom doesn't invalidate Darkwind's point. You're all for winner take all when it suits you, but if you're the loser from it suddenly you're on the side of 1 man (judge) overrulling the votes of millions of people.

Oh the irony - yes, we need to give the 200,000 registered voters in Wyoming at least ten times the voice of the 18 million registered voters in California.

Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars
Yes, The Electoral College Really Is A Vestige Of Slavery. It's Time To Get Rid Of It.

Wyoming has 3 electoral votes. California has 55.

 

[Fang]

DODGE! Just because Prop 8 might have been about some personal freedom doesn't invalidate Darkwind's point. You're all for winner take all when it suits you, but if you're the loser from it suddenly you're on the side of 1 man (judge) overrulling the votes of millions of people.

Oh the irony - yes, we need to give the 200,000 registered voters in Wyoming at least ten times the voice of the 18 million registered voters in California.

Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars
Yes, The Electoral College Really Is A Vestige Of Slavery. It's Time To Get Rid Of It.

No better way to make an uninformed, partisan argument FOR the popular vote than to tie it to race and slavery. LOL

 

[protectionist]

Oh the irony - yes, we need to give the 200,000 registered voters in Wyoming at least ten times the voice of the 18 million registered voters in California.

Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars
Yes, The Electoral College Really Is A Vestige Of Slavery. It's Time To Get Rid Of It.

But we DON'T do that, so why are you posting such an absurd notion ?

Fact is, California gas 55 electoral votes,Wyoming has only 3. As such, California has 18.33 times as many electoral votes as Wyoming.

 

[norwegen]

DODGE! Just because Prop 8 might have been about some personal freedom doesn't invalidate Darkwind's point. You're all for winner take all when it suits you, but if you're the loser from it suddenly you're on the side of 1 man (judge) overrulling the votes of millions of people.

Oh the irony - yes, we need to give the 200,000 registered voters in Wyoming at least ten times the voice of the 18 million registered voters in California.

Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars
Yes, The Electoral College Really Is A Vestige Of Slavery. It's Time To Get Rid Of It.

The people of Wyoming don't vote for the president, Einstein. The state of Wyoming does.

And even if they did, an individual's vote in Wyoming wouldn't count for any more than an individual's vote in California would.

 

[Wry Catcher]

This is also why Democrats want to keep bringing in illegals and legalize them over time. Although they already have illegals voting fraudulently for them in every election. They could care less about them, just as they turned their backs on all the Democrat caused genocides (such as Syria) in the world. All these scumbags want is the votes, which would give them the power to transform the country into a psuedo-communist shithole such as Venezuela.

Not only do they not care about illegals, the Left doesn't give a shit about the country either, actually they hate America and have a "unique" take on its history.

A biddable kool-aid drinker ^^^

Q. Is he as dumb as he seems, or is he an agent provocateur

NOTE: Vote now, but your vote may not count, we employ a system we call the electoral college, and we will select each member of the college based on gerrymandered considerations.

Vote now, but your vote may not count, we employ a system we call the electoral college, and we will select each member of the college based on gerrymandered considerations.

How would gerrymandering impact 538 electoral votes?
Be as specific as you can.

It can't.

"gerrymandered considerations": Considerations was the operative word, by it I meant fixing the vote to get the outcome desired.

 

[DrLove]

Wyoming has 3 electoral votes. California has 55.

I just did the math on registered voters. If Wyoming has three, then California should have NINETY.

 

[protectionist]

I just did the math on registered voters. If Wyoming has three, then California should have NINETY.

Why ?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

DODGE! Just because Prop 8 might have been about some personal freedom doesn't invalidate Darkwind's point. You're all for winner take all when it suits you, but if you're the loser from it suddenly you're on the side of 1 man (judge) overrulling the votes of millions of people.

Oh the irony - yes, we need to give the 200,000 registered voters in Wyoming at least ten times the voice of the 18 million registered voters in California.

Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars
Yes, The Electoral College Really Is A Vestige Of Slavery. It's Time To Get Rid Of It.

need to give the 200,000 registered voters in Wyoming at least ten times the voice of the 18 million registered voters in California.

Wyoming has 3 electoral votes, California has 55.
Looks like your math is off.

 

[Nia88]

Of course Republicans don't want to abolish the electoral college. They would never win another election if we got rid of it.

No other free nation on Earth has such a system. The majority is supposed to decide who runs their country . The will of the people. The electoral system takes the will of the people away.

So, you supported Prop 8 in California where the will of the people was to determine that marriage was between one man and one woman, right? You thought that the courts should not have overturned a clear majority vote win, right?

We're talking apple and oranges here. We're discussing how our leaders are elected. The issue with prop 8 was that it infringed upon personal freedoms. It's like how people in the south would've preferred to keep segregation but they it was discrimination.

Electing a leader isn't going to infringe upon someone's personal rights.

you mean like getting to determine who you choose to do business with?
or that you must allow men to pee in the ladies room?
or that guns are under attack and if they can't get those, ban bullets?

you mean rights like those would never be lost depending on who was in office?

You're comparing civil rights legislation with electing a leader. Those are two separate things. You cannot compare the two.

 

[DrLove]

Wyoming has 3 electoral votes, California has 55.
Looks like your math is off.

Ok not ten times - just almost TWICE

Even you can do that math. 18 million registered voters in CA and 200,000 into Wyoming.
Divide the second number into the first one and get NINETY - not 55

 

[Aba Incieni]

Wyoming has 3 electoral votes. California has 55.

I just did the math on registered voters. If Wyoming has three, then California should have NINETY.

If you moved to wyoming, your vote would count for more than a Californians.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Wyoming has 3 electoral votes, California has 55.
Looks like your math is off.

Ok not ten times - just almost TWICE

Even you can do that math. 18 million registered voters in CA and 200,000 into Wyoming.
Divide the second number into the first one and get NINETY - not 55

Ok not ten times - just almost TWICE

Yes, I noticed your HUGE ******* ERROR.

 

[DrLove]

I just did the math on registered voters. If Wyoming has three, then California should have NINETY.

Why ?

Because one man should equal one vote not 1.6 - Duh?

 

[Aba Incieni]

Of course Republicans don't want to abolish the electoral college. They would never win another election if we got rid of it.

No other free nation on Earth has such a system. The majority is supposed to decide who runs their country . The will of the people. The electoral system takes the will of the people away.

So, you supported Prop 8 in California where the will of the people was to determine that marriage was between one man and one woman, right? You thought that the courts should not have overturned a clear majority vote win, right?

We're talking apple and oranges here. We're discussing how our leaders are elected. The issue with prop 8 was that it infringed upon personal freedoms. It's like how people in the south would've preferred to keep segregation but they it was discrimination.

Electing a leader isn't going to infringe upon someone's personal rights.

you mean like getting to determine who you choose to do business with?
or that you must allow men to pee in the ladies room?
or that guns are under attack and if they can't get those, ban bullets?

you mean rights like those would never be lost depending on who was in office?

You're comparing civil rights legislation with electing a leader. Those are two separate things. You cannot compare the two.

Republicans voted for the CRA in higher percentages than did their democratic counterparts.

 

[DrLove]

Wyoming has 3 electoral votes. California has 55.

I just did the math on registered voters. If Wyoming has three, then California should have NINETY.

If you moved to wyoming, your vote would count for more than a Californians.

Thanks but no thanks

 

[Aba Incieni]

Wyoming has 3 electoral votes. California has 55.

I just did the math on registered voters. If Wyoming has three, then California should have NINETY.

If you moved to wyoming, your vote would count for more than a Californians.

Thanks but no thanks

Then use your half a vote to lose more elections. Your call.

 

[Wry Catcher]

DODGE! Just because Prop 8 might have been about some personal freedom doesn't invalidate Darkwind's point. You're all for winner take all when it suits you, but if you're the loser from it suddenly you're on the side of 1 man (judge) overrulling the votes of millions of people.

Oh the irony - yes, we need to give the 200,000 registered voters in Wyoming at least ten times the voice of the 18 million registered voters in California.

Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars
Yes, The Electoral College Really Is A Vestige Of Slavery. It's Time To Get Rid Of It.

The people of Wyoming don't vote for the president, Einstein. The state of Wyoming does.

And even if they did, an individual's vote in Wyoming wouldn't count for any more than an individual's vote in California would.

We could keep the electoral college, and yet require the voter's in the electoral college to reflect the percentage of the vote in each state. For example, in CA HRC won 61.5% of the vote, and Trump 31.5, so 61 & 31 of the electoral college from CA ought to represent the vote in CA. And in Texas, 52.2 voted for Trump, and 43.2 voted for HRC. Thus, the EC from TX ought to have 52 for trump, and 43 for Clinton.

The balance of the votes should go to the percentage greater than one to minor party candidates.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

DODGE! Just because Prop 8 might have been about some personal freedom doesn't invalidate Darkwind's point. You're all for winner take all when it suits you, but if you're the loser from it suddenly you're on the side of 1 man (judge) overrulling the votes of millions of people.

Oh the irony - yes, we need to give the 200,000 registered voters in Wyoming at least ten times the voice of the 18 million registered voters in California.

Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars
Yes, The Electoral College Really Is A Vestige Of Slavery. It's Time To Get Rid Of It.

The people of Wyoming don't vote for the president, Einstein. The state of Wyoming does.

And even if they did, an individual's vote in Wyoming wouldn't count for any more than an individual's vote in California would.

We could keep the electoral college, and yet require the voter's in the electoral college to reflect the percentage of the vote in each state. For example, in CA HRC won 61.5% of the vote, and Trump 31.5, so 61 & 31 of the electoral college from CA ought to represent the vote in CA. And in Texas, 52.2 voted for Trump, and 43.2 voted for HRC. Thus, the EC from TX ought to have 52 for trump, and 43 for Clinton.

The balance of the votes should go to the percentage greater than one to minor party candidates.

We could keep the electoral college, and yet require the voter's in the electoral college to reflect the percentage of the vote in each state.

We could, but we won't.

 

[peach174]

I just did the math on registered voters. If Wyoming has three, then California should have NINETY.

Why ?

Because one man should equal one vote not 1.6 - Duh?

So how does the lesser populated areas in ideology get represented for our Presidents if the EC was gone?

 

[peach174]

DODGE! Just because Prop 8 might have been about some personal freedom doesn't invalidate Darkwind's point. You're all for winner take all when it suits you, but if you're the loser from it suddenly you're on the side of 1 man (judge) overrulling the votes of millions of people.

Oh the irony - yes, we need to give the 200,000 registered voters in Wyoming at least ten times the voice of the 18 million registered voters in California.

Electoral College is 'vestige' of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars
Yes, The Electoral College Really Is A Vestige Of Slavery. It's Time To Get Rid Of It.

The people of Wyoming don't vote for the president, Einstein. The state of Wyoming does.

And even if they did, an individual's vote in Wyoming wouldn't count for any more than an individual's vote in California would.

We could keep the electoral college, and yet require the voter's in the electoral college to reflect the percentage of the vote in each state. For example, in CA HRC won 61.5% of the vote, and Trump 31.5, so 61 & 31 of the electoral college from CA ought to represent the vote in CA. And in Texas, 52.2 voted for Trump, and 43.2 voted for HRC. Thus, the EC from TX ought to have 52 for trump, and 43 for Clinton.

The balance of the votes should go to the percentage greater than one to minor party candidates.

That still is not fair for each states individual counties which differ in ideologies.