Sanders just submitted college for all bill.

[rightwinger]

Once again you fail to identify anything close to "full control"

You want an example? Universal Health insurance. Obama advocated a government controlled health system like Canada or England......Dems were against it

OK...now it's your turn
Ready to give me an example of full government control?

No they weren't, they knew it was to much to force upon us.

but then we have to get hci or else

that's tyranny and not one dem doesn't support it.


forced hci is government control of our lives cradle to the grave. and you didn't even know it.

Let's see...

Demand and example and then throw out any examples provided
Do you know the Rabbi?

truth and facts make you delirious?

I'm still waiting for you to post the one thing you don't want to the government to run

I posted Healthcare...your turn
You have still failed to provide an example of full government control.
Why not just admit you were exaggerating ?

Yet you support Obamacare. If you say that isn't the government running healthcare, you're a retard.

Government says you have to be insured. That is not running healthcare
You have a choice of where you get insurance, your doctors, pharmacy

 

[Conservative65]

No they weren't, they knew it was to much to force upon us.

but then we have to get hci or else

that's tyranny and not one dem doesn't support it.


forced hci is government control of our lives cradle to the grave. and you didn't even know it.

Let's see...

Demand and example and then throw out any examples provided
Do you know the Rabbi?

truth and facts make you delirious?

I'm still waiting for you to post the one thing you don't want to the government to run

I posted Healthcare...your turn
You have still failed to provide an example of full government control.
Why not just admit you were exaggerating ?

Yet you support Obamacare. If you say that isn't the government running healthcare, you're a retard.

Government says you have to be insured. That is not running healthcare
You have a choice of where you get insurance, your doctors, pharmacy

That is not running healthcare

When the government says you have to buy a product you don't want to buy, it's control. When the government can tell you the policy you have you no longer can buy because it doesn't meet standards set by the GOVERNMENT, it's control.

You say all the GOVERNMENT regulations on what has to be a part of it isn't control yet putting restrictions on abortion is controlling a woman's body. Can't work both ways except when Liberals are involved.

 

[Unkotare]

The principle is the same....why should you pay for educating someone else's kid?

Not when the purpose of each isn't the same.

I shouldn't pay to educate someone else's kid. I'm not the one that produced someone else's kids. That, alone, means it's not my place to do a damn thing for them. NOTHING.

You take the point too far. 'Free' college is a very bad idea, but if your house was burning down you'd want the fire department to come. Why should your neighbors pay to save your house?

Please get a clue and understand that those two things can't be compared in the way you do them.

= you can't patch the hole in your premise.

There is no hole in my premise. When it comes to fire protection, EVERYONE pays for the protection EVERYONE gets. When it comes to the college proposal, one group pay for the benefit of someone's kids who aren't paying.

I wasn't talking about college. Read my post again.

 

[Conservative65]

Not when the purpose of each isn't the same.

I shouldn't pay to educate someone else's kid. I'm not the one that produced someone else's kids. That, alone, means it's not my place to do a damn thing for them. NOTHING.

You take the point too far. 'Free' college is a very bad idea, but if your house was burning down you'd want the fire department to come. Why should your neighbors pay to save your house?

Please get a clue and understand that those two things can't be compared in the way you do them.

= you can't patch the hole in your premise.

There is no hole in my premise. When it comes to fire protection, EVERYONE pays for the protection EVERYONE gets. When it comes to the college proposal, one group pay for the benefit of someone's kids who aren't paying.

I wasn't talking about college. Read my post again.

You're the one that used fire departments as an example. Many incorrectly do when talking about issues like this. Since my neighbor pays taxes that fund fire department and so do it, everyone getting protection is paying. When it comes to programs like college tuition, food stamps, welfare, etc., the social welfare handouts, those doing the getting aren't doing then paying and vice versa. When I say I don't owe people a damn thing, it includes those things.

 

[rightwinger]

Let's see...

Demand and example and then throw out any examples provided
Do you know the Rabbi?

truth and facts make you delirious?

I'm still waiting for you to post the one thing you don't want to the government to run

I posted Healthcare...your turn
You have still failed to provide an example of full government control.
Why not just admit you were exaggerating ?

Yet you support Obamacare. If you say that isn't the government running healthcare, you're a retard.

Government says you have to be insured. That is not running healthcare
You have a choice of where you get insurance, your doctors, pharmacy

That is not running healthcare

When the government says you have to buy a product you don't want to buy, it's control. When the government can tell you the policy you have you no longer can buy because it doesn't meet standards set by the GOVERNMENT, it's control.

You say all the GOVERNMENT regulations on what has to be a part of it isn't control yet putting restrictions on abortion is controlling a woman's body. Can't work both ways except when Liberals are involved.

Government says YOU are responsible for being covered. It means we are tired of bailing out your ass when you can't pay your medical bills.

It is called personal responsibility

 

[Unkotare]

You take the point too far. 'Free' college is a very bad idea, but if your house was burning down you'd want the fire department to come. Why should your neighbors pay to save your house?

Please get a clue and understand that those two things can't be compared in the way you do them.

= you can't patch the hole in your premise.

There is no hole in my premise. When it comes to fire protection, EVERYONE pays for the protection EVERYONE gets. When it comes to the college proposal, one group pay for the benefit of someone's kids who aren't paying.

I wasn't talking about college. Read my post again.

You're the one that used fire departments as an example. Many incorrectly do when talking about issues like this. Since my neighbor pays taxes that fund fire department and so do it, everyone getting protection is paying. .

You never attended grade school?

 

[Conservative65]

truth and facts make you delirious?

I'm still waiting for you to post the one thing you don't want to the government to run

I posted Healthcare...your turn
You have still failed to provide an example of full government control.
Why not just admit you were exaggerating ?

Yet you support Obamacare. If you say that isn't the government running healthcare, you're a retard.

Government says you have to be insured. That is not running healthcare
You have a choice of where you get insurance, your doctors, pharmacy

That is not running healthcare

When the government says you have to buy a product you don't want to buy, it's control. When the government can tell you the policy you have you no longer can buy because it doesn't meet standards set by the GOVERNMENT, it's control.

You say all the GOVERNMENT regulations on what has to be a part of it isn't control yet putting restrictions on abortion is controlling a woman's body. Can't work both ways except when Liberals are involved.

Government says YOU are responsible for being covered. It means we are tired of bailing out your ass when you can't pay your medical bills.

It is called personal responsibility

When the government makes the rules about what the coverage must include, it's control.

I'm tired of bailing out those who aren't responsible, too. Your answer is to involved the government, as usual. Mine is don't bail them out. If they aren't responsible enough to do what they should be doing, let them go without.

 

[Conservative65]

Please get a clue and understand that those two things can't be compared in the way you do them.

= you can't patch the hole in your premise.

There is no hole in my premise. When it comes to fire protection, EVERYONE pays for the protection EVERYONE gets. When it comes to the college proposal, one group pay for the benefit of someone's kids who aren't paying.

I wasn't talking about college. Read my post again.

You're the one that used fire departments as an example. Many incorrectly do when talking about issues like this. Since my neighbor pays taxes that fund fire department and so do it, everyone getting protection is paying. .

You never attended grade school?

Your comparison was free college with fire departments.

 

[Unkotare]

= you can't patch the hole in your premise.

There is no hole in my premise. When it comes to fire protection, EVERYONE pays for the protection EVERYONE gets. When it comes to the college proposal, one group pay for the benefit of someone's kids who aren't paying.

I wasn't talking about college. Read my post again.

You're the one that used fire departments as an example. Many incorrectly do when talking about issues like this. Since my neighbor pays taxes that fund fire department and so do it, everyone getting protection is paying. .

You never attended grade school?

Your comparison was free college with fire departments.

No, it wasn't. Your feeble reading skills are a good example of how 'free' education can fail.

 

[rightwinger]

I posted Healthcare...your turn
You have still failed to provide an example of full government control.
Why not just admit you were exaggerating ?

Yet you support Obamacare. If you say that isn't the government running healthcare, you're a retard.

Government says you have to be insured. That is not running healthcare
You have a choice of where you get insurance, your doctors, pharmacy

That is not running healthcare

When the government says you have to buy a product you don't want to buy, it's control. When the government can tell you the policy you have you no longer can buy because it doesn't meet standards set by the GOVERNMENT, it's control.

You say all the GOVERNMENT regulations on what has to be a part of it isn't control yet putting restrictions on abortion is controlling a woman's body. Can't work both ways except when Liberals are involved.

Government says YOU are responsible for being covered. It means we are tired of bailing out your ass when you can't pay your medical bills.

It is called personal responsibility

When the government makes the rules about what the coverage must include, it's control.

I'm tired of bailing out those who aren't responsible, too. Your answer is to involved the government, as usual. Mine is don't bail them out. If they aren't responsible enough to do what they should be doing, let them go without.

Government makes rules on how fast you can drive, how you build your house and how you can raise your kids

It's part of belonging to a civilized society

 

[Ringel05]

Heck if one looks at the job market, required Bachelor degrees are the new high school diplomas and have been for quite a while, especially with government jobs. Given that, while I'm not necessarily for or against it, it makes sense to provide schooling up through the first four years of college.

 

[Unkotare]

Yet you support Obamacare. If you say that isn't the government running healthcare, you're a retard.

Government says you have to be insured. That is not running healthcare
You have a choice of where you get insurance, your doctors, pharmacy

That is not running healthcare

When the government says you have to buy a product you don't want to buy, it's control. When the government can tell you the policy you have you no longer can buy because it doesn't meet standards set by the GOVERNMENT, it's control.

You say all the GOVERNMENT regulations on what has to be a part of it isn't control yet putting restrictions on abortion is controlling a woman's body. Can't work both ways except when Liberals are involved.

Government says YOU are responsible for being covered. It means we are tired of bailing out your ass when you can't pay your medical bills.

It is called personal responsibility

When the government makes the rules about what the coverage must include, it's control.

I'm tired of bailing out those who aren't responsible, too. Your answer is to involved the government, as usual. Mine is don't bail them out. If they aren't responsible enough to do what they should be doing, let them go without.

Government makes rules on how fast you can drive, how you build your house and how you can raise your kids

It's part of belonging to a civilized society

You both suck at negotiating the social contract.

 

[Unkotare]

Heck if one looks at the job market, required Bachelor degrees are the new high school diplomas and have been for quite a while, especially with government jobs. Given that, while I'm not necessarily for or against it, it makes sense to provide schooling up through the first four years of college.

No, it doesn't.

 

[dblack]

No they weren't, they knew it was to much to force upon us.

but then we have to get hci or else

that's tyranny and not one dem doesn't support it.


forced hci is government control of our lives cradle to the grave. and you didn't even know it.

Let's see...

Demand and example and then throw out any examples provided
Do you know the Rabbi?

truth and facts make you delirious?

I'm still waiting for you to post the one thing you don't want to the government to run

I posted Healthcare...your turn
You have still failed to provide an example of full government control.
Why not just admit you were exaggerating ?

Yet you support Obamacare. If you say that isn't the government running healthcare, you're a retard.

Government says you have to be insured. That is not running healthcare.

It's even worse.

 

[dblack]

Government says you have to be insured. That is not running healthcare
You have a choice of where you get insurance, your doctors, pharmacy

That is not running healthcare

When the government says you have to buy a product you don't want to buy, it's control. When the government can tell you the policy you have you no longer can buy because it doesn't meet standards set by the GOVERNMENT, it's control.

You say all the GOVERNMENT regulations on what has to be a part of it isn't control yet putting restrictions on abortion is controlling a woman's body. Can't work both ways except when Liberals are involved.

Government says YOU are responsible for being covered. It means we are tired of bailing out your ass when you can't pay your medical bills.

It is called personal responsibility

When the government makes the rules about what the coverage must include, it's control.

I'm tired of bailing out those who aren't responsible, too. Your answer is to involved the government, as usual. Mine is don't bail them out. If they aren't responsible enough to do what they should be doing, let them go without.

Government makes rules on how fast you can drive, how you build your house and how you can raise your kids

It's part of belonging to a civilized society

You both suck at negotiating the social contract.

Near as I can tell, their version of the social contract is - "Obey".

 

[Ringel05]

Heck if one looks at the job market, required Bachelor degrees are the new high school diplomas and have been for quite a while, especially with government jobs. Given that, while I'm not necessarily for or against it, it makes sense to provide schooling up through the first four years of college.

No, it doesn't.

Depends on one's perspective, don't it.........

 

[Unkotare]

Heck if one looks at the job market, required Bachelor degrees are the new high school diplomas and have been for quite a while, especially with government jobs. Given that, while I'm not necessarily for or against it, it makes sense to provide schooling up through the first four years of college.

No, it doesn't.

Depends on one's perspective, don't it.........

No.

 

[Ringel05]

Heck if one looks at the job market, required Bachelor degrees are the new high school diplomas and have been for quite a while, especially with government jobs. Given that, while I'm not necessarily for or against it, it makes sense to provide schooling up through the first four years of college.

No, it doesn't.

Depends on one's perspective, don't it.........

No.

Oh yeah, I forgot the only opinion that matters in the world is yours, I bet you even walk on water.........

 

[Unkotare]

When the government says you have to buy a product you don't want to buy, it's control. When the government can tell you the policy you have you no longer can buy because it doesn't meet standards set by the GOVERNMENT, it's control.

You say all the GOVERNMENT regulations on what has to be a part of it isn't control yet putting restrictions on abortion is controlling a woman's body. Can't work both ways except when Liberals are involved.

Government says YOU are responsible for being covered. It means we are tired of bailing out your ass when you can't pay your medical bills.

It is called personal responsibility

When the government makes the rules about what the coverage must include, it's control.

I'm tired of bailing out those who aren't responsible, too. Your answer is to involved the government, as usual. Mine is don't bail them out. If they aren't responsible enough to do what they should be doing, let them go without.

Government makes rules on how fast you can drive, how you build your house and how you can raise your kids

It's part of belonging to a civilized society

You both suck at negotiating the social contract.

Near as I can tell, their version of the social contract is - "Obey".

Some sure seem to want it that way.

 

[Unkotare]

Heck if one looks at the job market, required Bachelor degrees are the new high school diplomas and have been for quite a while, especially with government jobs. Given that, while I'm not necessarily for or against it, it makes sense to provide schooling up through the first four years of college.

No, it doesn't.

Depends on one's perspective, don't it.........

No.

......I bet you even walk on water.........

You can too, if it's cold enough.