Zone1 *Sacrifice's Of Animals Again On The Jewish Mount!*

[hobelim]

The question is simple,

do you think it is impossible for humanity
to absolve itself of the consequence of sins without
the sacrifice of a human, even if only once, and only a Jew?

No. In fact the opposite is true. It is impossible to be absolved for your own sins by killing any creature, man or beast. Scripture teaches self accountability. Everyone is responsible for the consequences of their own actions whether for good or evil. The only way to be absolved from the inescapable death consequent to sin is to stop sinning and then do what is right.


Here is are two simple questions.

Do you think that killing a farm animal in the name of the Lord in a temple absolves anyone for sin or is this practice itself sinful, the vile and degrading flesh, teaching, of unclean creatures that do not ruminate?

How is this belief better than believing the crucifixion of an innocent man absolves people of sin?

Unethical is unethical, reprehensible is reprehensible, and crazy is crazy.

 

[irosie91]

No. In fact the opposite is true. It is impossible to be absolved for your own sins by killing any creature, man or beast. Scripture teaches self accountability. Everyone is responsible for the consequences of their own actions whether for good or evil. The only way to be absolved from the inescapable death consequent to sin is to stop sinning and then doing what is right.


Here is are two simple questions.

Do you think that killing a farm animal in the name of the Lord in a temple absolves anyone for sin or is this practice itself sinful, the vile and degrading flesh, teaching, of unclean creatures that do not ruminate?

How is this belief better than believing the crucifixion of an innocent man absolves people of sin?

Unethical is unethical, reprehensible is reprehensible, and crazy is crazy.

Silly----the farm animal is LUNCH-----communal
eating is a holy act of RENEWAL ----the issue is not
the (admittedly) unfortunate animal. An innocent
man can NEVER be a renewal lunch

 

[hobelim]

Silly----the farm animal is LUNCH-----communal
eating is a holy act of RENEWAL ----the issue is not
the (admittedly) unfortunate animal. An innocent
man can NEVER be a renewal lunch

Right. Eating LUNCH is the way to salvation from sin. Why a temple? There are supermarkets and restaurants everywhere. Damn rosie, you really do have a lot in common with them catlicks.

Living in a brooklyn wilderness, among the wild BEASTS, has really left its mark on YOU. silly? Sad.

 

[irosie91]

Right. Eating lunch is the way to salvation from sin. Why a temple? There are supermarkets and restaurants everywhere. Damn rosie, you really do have a lot in common with them catlicks.

Living in a brooklyn wilderness, among the wild beasts, has really left its mark on you. silly? Sad.

not your fault----the sunday morn jelly bean classes destroyed your mind. In RENEWAL, the name of the game is:
PRAYER, REPENTENCE and CHARITY.
The lunch represents charity to the landless tribe
of LEVI. The EATING thereof is an affirmation of LIFE

 

[hobelim]

not your fault----the sunday morn jelly bean classes destroyed your mind. In RENEWAL, the name of the game is:
PRAYER, REPENTENCE and CHARITY.
The lunch represents charity to the landless tribe
of LEVI. The EATING thereof is an affirmation of LIFE

Nonsense.

Again, why a temple? Is temple meat holier than other meat? Do you not have even an inkling how absurd your irrational temple/slaughterhouse/restaurant apologetics is? Seriously? Damn.

Without bearing fruit worthy of repentance there is no forgiveness whatever you eat for LUNCH.

Temple worship and ritual slaughter is not an affirmation of life. It is an abject indulgence in death.

And some people don't believe in curses. Imagine that!

 

[irosie91]

Nonsense.

Again, why a temple? Is temple meat holier than other meat? Do you not have even an inkling how absurd your irrational temple/slaughterhouse/restaurant apologetics is? Seriously? Damn.

Without bearing fruit worthy of repentance there is no forgiveness whatever you eat for LUNCH.

Temple worship and ritual slaughter is not an affirmation of life. It is an abject indulgence in death.

And some people don't believe in curses. Imagine that!

nope---"temple meat" is not "holy" ----it is meat.
THE TEMPLE is holy and the people who are
charged with running it are so bereft of "power"
they they do not even own land in an agrarian
BUT even they have to eat. I understand your
confusion----in your world the clerics are
MASSIVELY WEALTHY AND POWERFUL that
everyone swallows their BS and kisses their asses

 

[rylah]

No. In fact the opposite is true. It is impossible to be absolved for your own sins by killing any creature, man or beast. Scripture teaches self accountability. Everyone is responsible for the consequences of their own actions whether for good or evil. The only way to be absolved from the inescapable death consequent to sin is to stop sinning and then do what is right.


Here is are two simple questions.

Do you think that killing a farm animal in the name of the Lord in a temple absolves anyone for sin or is this practice itself sinful, the vile and degrading flesh, teaching, of unclean creatures that do not ruminate?

How is this belief better than believing the crucifixion of an innocent man absolves people of sin?

Unethical is unethical, reprehensible is reprehensible, and crazy is crazy.

Finally, we're discussing the issue in a common language.
And it seems we agree that sacrifice offering and sin
are essentially separate themes.

However, the point of preventing the consequence of sin,
and the Temple service, including animal sacrifices,
is to return closer to G-d, and in that partner
all material and living worlds.

The unique thing about Judaism,
it teaches that freedom of choice gives humanity a way to not only absolve,
but turn the sins into good deeds, Tshuvah turns them upside down from the root.

 

[rylah]

 

[hobelim]

However, the point of preventing the consequence of sin,
and the Temple service, including animal sacrifices,
is to return closer to G-d, and in that partner
all material and living worlds.

Sin is disobedience to the law of God. The consequence is death. Whether you have made great errors in your own speculations, or whether you have been misled yourself, to mislead others about the figurative words and hidden subjects of Law, the will of God, amounts to intentional sin.

Remember? One cannot comply with the literal meaning of the words used in the law without violating the deeper implications of the exact same law as in the command to refrain from the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. Both ways do not fulfill the law's demands. There is only one way to comply with the law that fulfills the promise of life. Make up your mind already.

There are not enough animals in the world that you could slaughter to escape the condemnation of God for being diverted by iniquitous arcane lore, your failure to comprehend the will of God, which only requires a second grade education, and a genuine love for God and truth to do it

 

[BreezeWood]

Silly----the farm animal is LUNCH-----communal
eating is a holy act of RENEWAL ----the issue is not
the (admittedly) unfortunate animal. An innocent
man can NEVER be a renewal lunch

“Take your son to the land of Moriah and kill your son there as a sacrifice for me. This must be Isaac, your only son, the one you love. Use him ...

God commands Abraham to offer his son Isaac as a sacrifice. After Isaac is bound to an altar, a messenger from God stops Abraham before the sacrifice finishes, saying "now I know you fear God". Abraham looks up and sees a ram and sacrifices it instead of Isaac.

... a messenger from God stops Abraham - - no, the jews abandoned the almighty . for themselves . paterfamilias.

that's the problem of the jews - they love themselves above all else. that's what the liar and murderer moses - taught them . they know the same for their false 10 commandments they substituted instead the true message from the heavens - who destroyed the tablets.

 

[irosie91]

... a messenger from God stops Abraham - - no, the jews abandoned the almighty . for themselves . paterfamilias.

that's the problem of the jews - they love themselves above all else. that's what the liar and murderer moses - taught them . they know the same for their false 10 commandments they substituted instead the true message from the heavens - who destroyed the tablets.

OH how interesting

 

[rylah]

Sin is disobedience to the law of God. The consequence is death. Whether you have made great errors in your own speculations, or whether you have been misled yourself, to mislead others about the figurative words and hidden subjects of Law, the will of God, amounts to intentional sin.

Remember? One cannot comply with the literal meaning of the words used in the law without violating the deeper implications of the exact same law as in the command to refrain from the flesh of unclean creatures that do not ruminate. Both ways do not fulfill the law's demands. There is only one way to comply with the law that fulfills the promise of life. Make up your mind already.

There are not enough animals in the world that you could slaughter to escape the condemnation of God for being diverted by iniquitous arcane lore, your failure to comprehend the will of God, which only requires a second grade education, and a genuine love for God and truth to do it

This is all gibberish,
you open with 'disobedience to law',
next sentence it's 'errors in speculations',
and then the all time lazy 'figurative words' joker.

But when bringing up salt... and "do not murder" you change colors...remember?

Look at the answers of the Jews in this thread,
you assume it's about sin, but for Jews it's a
royal feast...the Temple inauguration
is too collective for personal sin,
even on Yom Kippur.

 

[hobelim]

This is all gibberish,
you open with 'disobedience to law',
next sentence it's 'errors in speculations',
and then the all time lazy 'figurative words' joker.

Until you comply with command command to circumcise the flesh of the foreskin of your mind, the yetzer hara, the law will stretch out way above your addled dickhead from horizon to horizon like a crystal clear vault and you will be abandoned by God to your delusory belief that you are doing something holy by defiling yourself with the work of human hands and attributing a barbaric tradition to God. You may be a dedicated actor and lying fraud, just not a very good one. Joker.

So, if God is God, unless you stand on the law by doing it you will remain under its curse. Unless you repent of perjuring yourself in the name of God you will never enter the sanctuary of God no matter how many times you build a bloody slaughterhouse headed by a glorified butcher and dedicate it with all its abominations and superstitious and ignorant man made traditions to God.

 

[BreezeWood]

This is all gibberish,
you open with 'disobedience to law',
next sentence it's 'errors in speculations',
and then the all time lazy 'figurative words' joker.

But when bringing up salt... and "do not murder" you change colors...remember?

Look at the answers of the Jews in this thread,
you assume it's about sin, but for Jews it's a
royal feast...the Temple inauguration
is too collective for personal sin,
even on Yom Kippur.

Look at the answers of the Jews in this thread,
you assume it's about sin , ... but for Jews it's a
royal feast...

then sacrifice one of your own, what was told to them by the heavens.

Abraham looks up and sees a ram and sacrifices it instead of Isaac.

- their royal feast, as phony as their 10 commandments.

 

[irosie91]

Until you comply with command command to circumcise the flesh of the foreskin of your mind, the yetzer hara, the law will stretch out way above your addled dickhead from horizon to horizon like a crystal clear vault and you will be abandoned by God to your delusory belief that you are doing something holy by defiling yourself with the work of human hands and attributing a barbaric tradition to God. You may be a dedicated actor and lying fraud, just not a very good one. Joker.

So, if God is God, unless you stand on the law by doing it you will remain under its curse. Unless you repent of perjuring yourself in the name of God you will never enter the sanctuary of God no matter how many times you build a bloody slaughterhouse headed by a glorified butcher and dedicate it with all its abominations and superstitious and ignorant man made traditions to God.

word salad. There are lots of medications for
"thought disorder"----the latest ones less harmful
than the OLD ONES----you can take them without
worrying too much about tardive dyskinesia

 

[hobelim]

word salad. There are lots of medications for
"thought disorder"----the latest ones less harmful
than the OLD ONES----you can take them without
worrying too much about tardive dyskinesia

Is that really the best that you can do old rosie? Damn. Shameful.

Again, Living in a brooklyn wilderness, among the wild BEASTS, has really left its mark on YOU.

 

[irosie91]

Is that really the best that you can do old rosie? Damn. Shameful.

Again, Living in a brooklyn wilderness, among the wild BEASTS, has really left its mark on YOU.

gee---that's what I get for EXCELLENT ---uhm.....
well ----I would not think of charging you.......

 

[hobelim]

gee---that's what I get for EXCELLENT ---uhm.....
well ----I would not think of charging you.......

Gee I bet you blame your sweet disposition on those catlick meanies that you always cry about. Poor you, hemorrhaging for decades over grade school injuries. I'm thinking about charging you.


You have the right to remain silent. Anything that you say can and will be used against you.

 

[rylah]

Until you comply with command command to circumcise the flesh of the foreskin of your mind, the yetzer hara, the law will stretch out way above your addled dickhead from horizon to horizon like a crystal clear vault and you will be abandoned by God to your delusory belief that you are doing something holy by defiling yourself with the work of human hands and attributing a barbaric tradition to God. You may be a dedicated actor and lying fraud, just not a very good one. Joker.

So, if God is God, unless you stand on the law by doing it you will remain under its curse. Unless you repent of perjuring yourself in the name of God you will never enter the sanctuary of God no matter how many times you build a bloody slaughterhouse headed by a glorified butcher and dedicate it with all its abominations and superstitious and ignorant man made traditions to God.

No, but saying that with more pathos would give you some credit.
What commandment were you referring to exactly?

Quote it.

 

[rylah]

then sacrifice one of your own, what was told to them by the heavens.



- their royal feast, as phony as their 10 commandments.

It makes my life to offer one of my own sheep in sacrifice at the Temple.
And the commandments are there in the holy of hollies.

Question rather why must you resist its reality?