Zone1 *Sacrifice's Of Animals Again On The Jewish Mount!*

[BreezeWood]

Let's say the point about hurting other humans, if own consciousness is what differentiates us from the animal world, addresses others, but immediately bears the side of the question it doesn't address - what if the sacrifice is the self?

Remember, I've initially said the subject is - Your desire.
Appeasement is an essential will, but can't suffice
to define a Monotheist relationship.

is that being serious ...

“Take your son to the land of Moriah and kill your son there as a sacrifice for me. This must be Isaac, your only son, the one you love. Use him ...

no, that would be a sacrifice for humanity, the evils of nepotism, judaism - didn't do it though and made up - it was just a test.

- the downhill slide never stops.

 

[rylah]

is that being serious ...



no, that would be a sacrifice for humanity, the evils of nepotism, judaism - didn't do it though and made up - it was just a test.

- the downhill slide never stops.

But it doesn't make sense without enough pathos.

Stop pretending, make your point.

 

[BreezeWood]

But it doesn't make sense without enough pathos.

Stop pretending, make your point.

pretending what, beanie - its in the post. the erstwhile common thread for the three desert religions - paterfamilias ... the persecution and victimization of the innocent - go murder a lamb, for your feast.

 

[flacaltenn]

Got my arm twisted just enough to realize the GREAT parts of this thread are more important than procedural things.

Help moderation OUT here. Realize that the rules have changed to Civil Discussion since this thread was created. Go read what we're asking for in the Sticky Section of this forum listings. No personal poking at all. No profanity. And keep it close to the various "religious nations" views of biblical prophesy and the significance of Jerusalem to all of them.

 

[flacaltenn]

re-opened.

 

[rylah]

rylah

My next guess is that a human sacrifice isn't tolerated is because mankind was created 'in our image, in our likeness'. And thus, sacrificing a human being is something like a desecration of this image.

Beautifully put my friend,
better than I could explain,
sums it up short and simple.

The angle usually taken in the Beit Midrash
to reach this conclusion logically, is the Binding of Yitzhak,
as the example to all humanity, Yitzhak is made of human soul and cow...
if the body of Yitzhak was sacrificed, the human character isn't addressed.

 

[rylah]

Landmark Passover Offering Practice |Rabbi Cherki

Shalom to everybody, my respected, each to their respect - today we are expressing longings.
Also those who don't believe in the realization of the longings immediately, should be longing, even more, to hope for the realization of the longings in the future.

But what future?
As much closer.

But what are we longing for?
In the exodus of Egypt it is said "Attribute and take yourself a Passover offering" (Shemot 12,21), our sages taught "pull your hands from foreign service" (see Rashi, acc. to Midrash Halachah). What is 'foreign service' ('Avodah Zarah)? Whichever enslaves the human.
On the other hand, the service of HaShem is that which liberates humanity.

As Rabbi Yehudah HaLevi said - 'Servant of HaShem only he is free'.

Currently, the world is in a deep moral crisis.
The entire world doesn't believe in the possibility
to turn this world into Paradise upon Earth, despite today's
technology and resources at our disposal, it's needed for the human
to have faith in the ability to overcome his dark inclinations, only when a human
believes in his liberty. The human who's really free, has faith more in the good urge,
rather than the bad inclination. And the beginning of liberation from the bad inclination,
which began with the initial rebellion against 'Avodah Zarah - was the offering of Passover.

One who longs for the bringing forth the offering of Passover,
is longing for true liberty. It's the longing for the renewal of
the human force that is capable to correct the entire world,
in G-d's kingdom.

Therefore we are not working today,
G-d forbid for 'primitive service', return to
service that has supposedly been outdated.

We are indeed progressing forward towards the
renewal of the human liberty in its fullest stature.

Thank You very much.

 

[rylah]

Itay David - Yerushalayim

Yerushalyim the city of Kingdom
Rise up already from the revolution
And don Your garments of splendor

Realize the prophecies
Written for me in the books
And ascend from here above to heights

A beautiful day comes and the broken heart rebuilds
Turns around and changes and we shall see again no war,
Only one complete Kingdom, and He stands waiting for the children
To return from the battle home, and You sit and You are all yearning,
Till gathered are all the tears and broken pieces...

And if You build me the Third House!
Guard it with us, guard it with me, and if You
Bring Mshiach, and if You bring Shalom then bring it today!

 

[rylah]

UPDATE: G-d’s name appearing in Jerusalem​

Last year, there were several reports of the name of G-d appearing on the Eastern Wall in Jerusalem. The location is by Sha'ar HaRahamim — the Gate of Mercy, otherwise known
as the Golden Gate, where it's said Moshiach will enter to the Temple Mount.

I was fascinated by this story but couldn't find any updates since the summer.
So here it is — the current status of this possibly miraculous sign from HaShem.

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,

1. Stay tuned August 8th is just near.
2. Could be thats when the Temple Mounts get *Cleanthes*.
3. Could be what we are waiting the Jews have been waiting for a long time.
4. Oh holy night when the destruction begins.
5. Will it be August 8th?
6. G-D only knows.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[rylah]

Sorry bout that,

1. Stay tuned August 8th is just near.
2. Could be thats when the Temple Mounts get *Cleanthes*.
3. Could be what we are waiting the Jews have been waiting for a long time.
4. Oh holy night when the destruction begins.
5. Will it be August 8th?
6. G-D only knows.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Guessing dates is a recipe for weakening morale.
Let me suggest a challenge - picture the construction,
in most practical terms, as a progression of earthly order.

Less drama,
more realism.

 

[hobelim]

Guessing dates is a recipe for weakening morale.
Let me suggest a challenge - picture the construction,
in most practical terms, as a progression of earthly order.

Less drama,
more realism.

Here's some realism.

If you believe that the sanctuary of God can be built by human hands then the more you proceed toward fulfilling that irrational fantasy the further you will recede from God and the more you will receive the exact opposite of your professed intentions for doing so.

 

[BreezeWood]

Sorry bout that,

1. And I support whatever the Jews do.
2. Rake off that crap ontop the Jewish Mount and rebuild The Temple.
3. Whats needed now, is a happy accident.
4. A ground leveling accident.
5. GO JEWS!!!!!
6. Palestinians threaten violence on Jewish ‘provocations’ on Temple Mount

Sample:
"Leaders of several Palestinian factions in the Gaza Strip have called on Palestinians to converge on al-Aqsa Mosque compound (Temple Mount) on Friday to protect it against “provocations by Zionist criminals.”

7. Bring it, let the Jews mow you down if you come.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

jeepers ...

The Al-Aqsa Mosque is the name of the mosque that sits atop the Temple Mount in Jerusalem

it's the muslums that are preventing the jews from building their temple ... a curious twist of fate, guess the rebuild is put on indefinite hold - like forever.

- as likely as a change in their attitude, either side.

and about as sorry bout that as - chessy ...

 

[chesswarsnow]

jeepers ...



it's the muslums that are preventing the jews from building their temple ... a curious twist of fate, guess the rebuild is put on indefinite hold - like forever.

- as likely as a change in their attitude, either side.

and about as sorry bout that as - chessy ...

Sorry bout that,

1. The stuff ontop the Mount is as good as gone.
2. Its just a matter of a few days.
3. Bye Bye bullshit!

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[BreezeWood]

Sorry bout that,

1. The stuff ontop the Mount is as good as gone.
2. Its just a matter of a few days.
3. Bye Bye bullshit!

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

maybe you can clear up the confusion ...

The structure, Al-Aqsa Mosque is situated on a flat elevated plaza known to Muslims as al-Ḥaram al-Sharīf (“The Noble Sanctuary”) and to Jews as the Temple Mount (the site where the Temple of Jerusalem once stood).

are you a texas - knight - or somewhere else ... you sound like you sit at a square table than round, must be the desert influence.

 

[rylah]

God commanded Moses to make a bronze statue of a serpent for people to turn to for healing during the time of testing in the wilderness. True?

Hezekiah destroyed this statue and was credited for doing what is right in the eyes of God. True?

My question is if it was right for Hezekiah to destroy the statue was it ever right for anyone to turn to it for healing? Of course it was never right to turn to a statue of a serpent for healing. Duh.

The point is that no one should blindly do what God commands because it could be just a test.

Moses said that after his death the people would turn aside from then way that he taught to follow [the law],become corrupt, and defile themselves with the work of their hands.

The temple is made by human hands. Smarten up. The sanctuary of God can't be made by man.

So you conclude that G-d intended Moshesh to fail, because Hezekaiah was credited for destroying the serpent statue, and that he failed, despite never being warned or punished?

Look you can say everything i a test, and all your perversions are allowed,
this is essentially the default Christian joker to turning a pig kosher.

The answer is simple - G-d ordered the serpent statue to be made,
and destroyed, and ordered the Temple built by human hands,
and rebuilt. But here is the main question - how does it really
matter to you?

 

[rylah]

jeepers ...



it's the muslums that are preventing the jews from building their temple ... a curious twist of fate, guess the rebuild is put on indefinite hold - like forever.

- as likely as a change in their attitude, either side.

and about as sorry bout that as - chessy ...

Like Muslims tried to prevent the Jewish return to the land,
to build the country and fulfill dozen other prophecies
in less than a century?

Curious twist of...

 

[BreezeWood]

So you conclude that G-d intended Moshesh to fail, because Hezekaiah was credited for destroying the serpent statue, and that he failed, despite never being warned or punished?

Look you can say everything i a test, and all your perversions are allowed,
this is essentially the default Christian joker to turning a pig kosher.

The answer is simple - G-d ordered the serpent statue to be made,
and destroyed, and ordered the Temple built by human hands,
and rebuilt. But here is the main question - how does it really
matter to you?

But here is the main question - how does it really
matter to you?

you have'nt answered - why not one of yours when you do so to the lamb ...

for those who have an affinity for the innocent ...

as, who then are the sinners.

 

[rylah]

Here's some realism.

If you believe that the sanctuary of God can be built by human hands then the more you proceed toward fulfilling that irrational fantasy the further you will recede from God and the more you will receive the exact opposite of your professed intentions for doing so.

Irrational fantasy?

It's like saying to a pregnant woman,
who lost 2 children, that believing women
can give life, only results in further infanticide.

And her man would be right to teach you some rational.

 

[BreezeWood]

Like Muslims tried to prevent the Jewish return to the land,
to build the country and fulfill dozen other prophecies
in less than a century?

Curious twist of...

you kid yourself - muslims are opposed to anyone but themselves returning to any land in the middleeast.