Russia is systematically targeting civilians to pressure Zelensky to surrender.
These people are animals
Russia’s Primary Military Strategy: War Crimes
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Russia is systematically targeting civilians to pressure Zelensky to surrender.
These people are animals
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toobfreak
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FA_Q2
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They may be but they are going to do what works.
And this seems to be what is working. One reason this really needed to be ended early but everyone seems unwilling to accept that they are not going to get what they want.
para bellum
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Bombing cities has never made anyone capitulate, it's not going make Ukraine give up either. They know this is an existential threat.
The attacks only harden their resolve, and the more cities that are destroyed, the greater the desire for revenge.
In case no one has told Putin, Ukraine does not want to be "liberated".
FA_Q2
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And yet....
Things are not going well for Ukraine atm and Russia is advancing. If you think suppressing the people violently never works they you are just ignoring most of human history.
para bellum
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Russian advances are measured in meters per day when they are advancing at all. And they aren't really advancing at the moment- they are making probing maneuvers towards Siversk and Sloviansk and Bakhmut, and getting repelled by the UA each time.
What gains they made in the past couple months are important to Putin because he needs to claim at least Luhansk and Donetsk for political reasons, but the cities of Severodonetsk and Lysychansk are not strategically important. They do not open up any new avenues of attack for Russian forces.
Ukraine paid a high price to defend those cities (at least SDonetsk), and so did Russia to take them. May was the worst month of the war for Ukraine.
Whether Russia can take Sloviansk, we will just have to see. It doesn't have a forest adjacent to hide in like Severodonetsk does. And Ukraine had no way to hit their rear logistics effectively in May/June. That has changed. Dramatically.
The big picture is static. The territory Russia had at the end of April is just about exactly what they hold today. Tiny slivers of territory have shifted back and forth, and a bunch of villages have been razed.
Russia shot out their best artillery tubes taking SDonetsk- an artillery barrel is good for about 2000 full charge rounds before it has to be replaced or relined. I am pretty sure the Russian reserve artillery park is not well maintained, the pieces that were placed in reserves were the already ones that needed new barrels.
Their large ammunition storage sites have been blown to hell. You can see it in the NASA FIRES maps. For the first time, there are more fires on the Russian side of the LOC than on the Ukrainian side.
Also, FYI. Russian propaganda has a thing- they like to show a column of vehicles, and claim it's advancing on Ukrainian positions when it's really somewhere way back in the rear.
This is supposedly a BMPT heading to Siversk. Not likely- a lone BMP with a big Russian flag, followed by 3 civilian vehicles, and the driver has no helmet. Siversk to Lysychansk is an active combat area, and there are no pock marks in the fields.
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para bellum
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I said bombing cities does not make a country capitulate. Yes, humans have been subjugating other humans throughout history. 2 different things.
Bombing cities didn't work when Germany bombed London, or the allies bombed German cities, or the US bombed Japanese cities. It doesn't work for Hamas in Israel or the Houthis in KSA.
Infantry is what takes ground. Only infantry. Targeting civilian infrastructure causes pain, it does not weaken resolve.
Baron
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NATO, sorry, Bandera gangs permanently use civilians as shields ( like in all countries NATO had devastated before )
I see you don't know much about war. This is the norm.
Everywhere. Everywhen. Forever.
I take no notice of any of it and don't read about it: if it's war, it assumes atrocities and what you call "war crimes."
When atom bombs are normalized (prob. soon) it will be a lot worse, so be glad it's no worse now.
Ringo
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"When worms are driven out of a cat, it is a special operation for a doctor, war for worms, and cleansing for a cat."
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Ringo
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British mercenary Aiden Aislin said that the United States is sending weapons to Kurdish terrorists (YPG - Yekîneyên Parastina Ge) through Ukraine:
“The weapons are used against Turkey, which is a NATO ally of the United States. The funny thing about it is that it's a weird circle.”
Let's clarify the situation a little (we have been dealing with this problem and are preparing a lot of material):
1 -In reality, weapons do not even arrive in Ukraine
2 -It enters the countries of Eastern Europe (Poland and Romania) from where to Kuwait, where it is "legalized", and then through Iraq and the El Walid border crossing to Syria, where it is already passing to the Kurds
3 -Such a strange route is associated with a large number of opponents (in the United States) of maintaining the American military presence in Syria
4 -What about Ukraine?! And the local military simply stamp marks on the receipt of weapons and their further write-off in the combat zone
At the moment, this scheme is beneficial to everyone. Well, unless Turkey, in the event of the start of its operation in northern Syria, may be very surprised at the armament of the Kurds.
“The weapons are used against Turkey, which is a NATO ally of the United States. The funny thing about it is that it's a weird circle.”
Let's clarify the situation a little (we have been dealing with this problem and are preparing a lot of material):
1 -In reality, weapons do not even arrive in Ukraine
2 -It enters the countries of Eastern Europe (Poland and Romania) from where to Kuwait, where it is "legalized", and then through Iraq and the El Walid border crossing to Syria, where it is already passing to the Kurds
3 -Such a strange route is associated with a large number of opponents (in the United States) of maintaining the American military presence in Syria
4 -What about Ukraine?! And the local military simply stamp marks on the receipt of weapons and their further write-off in the combat zone
At the moment, this scheme is beneficial to everyone. Well, unless Turkey, in the event of the start of its operation in northern Syria, may be very surprised at the armament of the Kurds.
para bellum
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So Ukraine is an animal. Ukrainians are worms, and Russia is the doctor.
And Ukrainians are the Nazis...
para bellum
Diamond Member
Good for the world to see this, since coerced statements from prisoners is a war crime, as was sentencing him to death...
Ringo
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Do you talking about Assange? Or about prisoners in Guantanamo? Make your mind!
Baron
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Both of them are nothing in comparison to the true crimes
The Dark Secret of America's WWII German Death Camps
The great final war crime of World War II was committed by the U.S.
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