Russia will never be awarded Ukraine territory gained by Russia's invasion

[theHawk]

Ukraine is lucky it isn’t going back to the pre-USSR map:

 

[AntonToo]

And what happened in Kosovo in 1999 and in Iraq in 2003?

I'm not going on a deflection tour with you, but it certainly was NOT ANNEXATION

Russian lawless land-grab invasion is unprecedented among modern developed countries, there is no equivalency, which is why Russia was declared an aggressor by UN General Assembly resolution condemning their invasion.


The Chinese delegation voted in favor of the General Assembly resolution, which calls Russia an “aggressor,” according to data published by the Icelandic mission to the UN.

The document A/77/L.65 “Cooperation between the United Nations and the Council of Europe” refers to the “unprecedented challenges” facing Europe “following the aggression of the Russian Federation against Ukraine and earlier against Georgia.”

The resolution also calls for “reparations” for the victims of Russia’s military aggression and “prosecution of all those responsible for violations of international law.”

In addition to China, Kazakhstan and all other post-Soviet republics except Tajikistan and Uzbekistan (which abstained), as well as countries that the Russian authorities call “friendly,” voted in favor of the document. These include India, Brazil, and Turkey.

Votes against came from only five countries. In addition to Russia, these are Belarus, DR Congo, Nicaragua, and Syria. A total of 122 countries were in favor.

China agrees in UN vote that Russia is an “aggressor”

China decided to abandon the practice of "abstention" during this week's UN vote on documents related to Russia's invasion of

georgiatoday.ge

 

[Deadstick]

I am mocking the JoeB131 claim the EU bankrolled protesters.

Most bankrolling came from the CIA, Killery Clinton admitted they had spent $5billion on the coup, it eneded up with this.

How A False Flag Massacre Led To The Proxy War In Ukraine

New research proves that the "Maidan Massacre" used to justify the 2014 coup in Ukraine was a false flag.

the307.substack.com

 

[MisterBeale]

Russia will never be awarded Ukraine territory gained by Russia's invasion​

It matters little if the west accedes to Russian demands. Moscow has clearly won this war, as intelligent folks knew they inevitably would.

NOW. . . .

Russia is obviously going to have that land. . .

The west and Europe will either make peace and find a way to profit from this reality, or they will be destroyed.

 

[Deadstick]

Oh, bullshit.

Yanukovych rejects an awful EU Deal and gets a far better one from Russia, and suddenly, the EU and US are supporting these protestors.

Some would call that, treason.

A $15billion deal from Russia with no strings, unlike the so called EU deal.

 

[Deadstick]

I'm not going on a deflection tour with you, but it certainly was NOT ANNEXATION

Russian lawless land-grab invasion is unprecedented among modern developed countries, there is no equivalency.

Israel anyone?

 

[GLASNOST]

Ignorant dummy, we've had WW2 since then followed by Geneva Conventions where the world decided NEVER AGAIN and to that goal has worked out international law conventions and agreements that just about all countries signed on to.

And what happened in Kosovo and Iraq?

... and Cuba, Iran, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Serbia, Grenada, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Guatemala, Venezuela, Costa Rica, Panama, Nicaragua, Colombia, Ukraine, etc.

 

[Robert W]

Really?

The **** are they going to do about it?

Russia took what they wanted. They want it more than the Euro cucks, so they have it.

The US has checked out. Can Europe stop Putin alone?​

As Trump pulls away from Ukraine, Europe must choose: lead the fight – or face the cost of Russian victory.


By Sergey Maidukov

Ukrainian writer.

The United States was once Ukraine’s most important ally – supplying arms, funding and political cover as Kyiv fought for its sovereignty. But today, Washington is losing interest. President Donald Trump, more at home on the golf course than in a war room, is pulling away from a conflict he no longer seems to care to understand.

Trump has not hidden his disdain. He has echoed Kremlin narratives, questioned NATO’s relevance and reduced Ukraine’s defence to a punchline. Even his recent comment that Russian President Vladimir Putin has “gone absolutely crazy” does little to undo years of indulgence and indifference.

Can Europe meet the moment? Can a loose coalition of willing nations evolve into a durable security bloc? And can it do so without the US?

As of early 2025, Ukraine was meeting roughly 40 percent of its own military needs, according to the Centre for Security and Cooperation in Kyiv. Europe provided 30 percent and the US the remaining 30 percent. To sustain the fight, Europe must now do more – quickly.

The alternative would be disastrous. The Kiel Institute for the World Economy has estimated that if Russia were to occupy Ukraine, it could cost Germany alone 10 to 20 times more than maintaining current levels of support – due to refugee flows, energy instability, economic disruptions and defence risks.

One of Ukraine’s most urgent needs is ammunition – particularly artillery shells. Until recently, the US was the main supplier. As American deliveries decline, Ukraine is burning through its reserves. Europe is now scrambling to fill the gap.

The problem is scale. Europe’s arms industry has long been underdeveloped. It is only now beginning to respond. According to European Union Commissioner for Defence and Space Andrius Kubilius, the bloc aims to produce 2 million artillery shells annually by the end of 2025. This would just meet Ukraine’s minimum battlefield requirements.

A particularly ambitious initiative is a Czech-led plan to procure and deliver up to 1.8 million shells to Ukraine by the end of next year. Confirmed by Czech President Petr Pavel in May and backed by Canada, Norway, the Netherlands, Denmark and other countries, the effort is one of the few on track to make a meaningful impact – if it arrives on time.

 

[GLASNOST]

I am mocking the JoeB131 claim the EU bankrolled protesters.

Oh.

 

[GLASNOST]

Russian lawless land-grab invasion is unprecedented among modern developed countries, there is no equivalency.

So, you've never heard of Israel, huh? And what countries do you claim Russia "land-grabed"? I'm waiting.

 

[GLASNOST]

The US has checked out. Can Europe stop Putin alone?

Stop him from doing what ...... Selling oil at cheap prices?

 

[AntonToo]

Ukraine is lucky it isn’t going back to the pre-USSR map:

Thanks for your input useful idiot

 

[GLASNOST]

 

[AntonToo]

Hr signed the whole agreement not just part of it, and the fascist mob didn't give him time to implement anything

Lets go over this again:

He agreed to sign order to return to 2004 Constitution within 48 hours.

48 Hours ended and meanwhile he ran off to Russia, having not signed anything.


What the **** are you talking about?

 

[Deadstick]

Wtf? Just because Yanukovich ran off to Russia doesn't mean democracy ended in Ukraine.

On the contrary, Ukrainian government continued it's work, Yanukovich party parliamentarians remaining where they were, Supreme Court intact, interim President assigned in accordance with the law and new elections held 3 months later to elect new President.

You can compare that to Russia where people have NEVER voted in an actual change in power and executive office.

Well it did because Yanukovych was not removed by an election, i am said to live in a Democracy but if i decided to storm Parliament with arms that would be a coup, but we still live in a democracy just about so votes will decide, or if something extreme happened and they decided to have a vote of no confidence in the Government which would result in another election.

 

[AntonToo]

Well it did because Yanukovych was not removed by an election

What part of HE RAN OFF do you not get?

Nobody removed him, he remained as the absent President until a new one was elected as per agreement he signed.

 

[Deadstick]

Lets go over this again:

He agreed to sign order to return to 2004 Constitution within 48 hours.

48 Hours ended and meanwhile he ran off to Russia, having not signed anything.


What the **** are you talking about?

I am talking about the mob attacking Government buildings and hunting for Yanukovych less than twenty four hours after the signing, if they had caught Yanukovych what do you think they would have done sat round holding hands singing Kumbaya?

 

[AntonToo]

I am talking about the mob attacking Government buildings and hunting for Yanukovych

What was Yanukovich doing at that time?

Working on agreed to order? **** no, he packed up his mansion and was on the other side of Ukraine trying to catch a flight out to Russia.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/03/12/what-did-yanukovych-take-with-him-as-he-fled-his-mansion-paintings-guns-and-a-small-dog-according-to-new-video/

He never had any interest in following through with the agreement.

 

[Robert W]

Stop him from doing what ...... Selling oil at cheap prices?

Your idea is wrong.

 

[Deadstick]

What part of HE RAN OFF do you not get?

Nobody removed him, he remained as the absent President until a new one was elected as per agreement he signed.

There was a fascist lynch mob after him what would you have done tried to reason with the mob?

What was Yanukovich doing at that time?

Working on agreed to order? **** no, he packed up his mansion and was on the other side of Ukraine trying to catch a flight out to Russia.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/03/12/what-did-yanukovych-take-with-him-as-he-fled-his-mansion-paintings-guns-and-a-small-dog-according-to-new-video/

He never had any interest in following through with the agreement.

He did follow the agreement but with peaceful demonstrators like this looking for him he escaped.