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Russia plans to hold several accession referendums in Ukraine

toomuchtime_

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I provided evidence for my claim the US was responsible for Russia's economic failure in the 1990s; why can't you find a single credible source that refutes my allegations?

The Harvard Boys Do Russia

"The architect of privatization was former First Deputy Prime Minister Anatoly Chubais, a darling of the U.S. and Western financial establishments.

"Chubais’s drastic and corrupt stewardship made him extremely unpopular.

"According to The New York Times, he 'may be the most despised man in Russia.'

"Essential to the implementation of Chubais’s policies was the enthusiastic support of the Clinton Administration and its key representative for economic assistance in Moscow, the Harvard Institute for International Development.

"Using the prestige of Harvard’s name and connections in the Administration, H.I.I.D. officials acquired virtual carte blanche over the U.S. economic aid program to Russia,"
You provided no evidence that the US was responsible for Russia's failure in the 1990's. Your link states only that the billions in aid the US sent to Russia and the advisors sent to Russia were unable to prevent the Russian leaders from screwing up the attempted transition from communism to democracy and a market-based economy. The other former Soviet states attempted to make the same transition and all succeeded but Russia because then as now Russia is the most corrupt state in Europe. The only people who made a profit from Russia's failure in the 1990's were corrupt Russians.
 

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So what you are saying is President Victor Yanukovich was one of Putin stooges. And now the Ukraine has a real leader willing to stand up to Russia. God bless the Ukraine. Others will follow. Russia has subjugated people in what we now call Russia. Soon to be a plethora of free Nations.
As I understand it, Yanukovych was presented with a pair of 15 billion dollar loans, one from the IMF and another from Russia. The former came with the usual conditionalities; eliminate subsidies and privatize state owned resources and infrastructure.

The Russian loan offer did not require similar conditions.

A majority of Ukrainians voted for Yanukovych in 2010, unwilling to become the next Greece in order to support the Divine Right of US Capital.
 
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Once again, there are no facts to support your claim that " the US helped instigate an illegal coup that drove a duly elected president from office."
Once again you reveal your inability to comprehend what you (may or may not) read:

How and why the U.S. Government Perpetrated the 2014 Coup in Ukraine

"Clearly, Victoria Nuland, U.S. President Barack Obama’s central agent overseeing the coup, at least during the month of February 2014 when it climaxed, was crucial not only in overthrowing the existing Ukrainian Government, but in selecting and installing its rabidly anti-Russian replacement.

"The 27 January 2014 phone-conversation between her and America’s Ambassador in Ukraine, Jeffrey Pyatt was a particularly seminal event, and it was uploaded to youtube on 4 February 2014..." "Nuland there and then abandoned the EU’s hope for a still democratic but less corrupt future government for Ukraine, and Nuland famously said, on that call 'Fuck the EU,' and she instructed Pyatt to choose instead the rabidly anti-Russian, and far-right, Arseniy Yatsenyuk.

"This key event occurred 24 days before Ukraine’s President Victor Yanukovych was overthrown on February 20th, and 30 days before the new person to head Ukraine’s Government, Yatsenyuk, became officially appointed to rule the now clearly fascist country.

"He won that official designation on February 26th. However, this was only a formality: Obama’s agent had already chosen him, on January 27th."
 

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The UN General Assembly overwhelmingly adopted a resolution on Wednesday demanding that Russia immediately end its military operations in Ukraine.
Known informally as the world’s “town hall”, the Assembly is where all 193 UN Member States have a voice. A total of 141 countries voted in favour of the resolution, which reaffirms Ukrainian sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity.

Assembly President Abdulla Shahid struggled to read the results of the vote as ambassadors began applauding, and then standing up, as he started speaking.

'Unconditionally withdraw'​

The resolution demands that Russia “immediately, completely and unconditionally withdraw all of its military forces from the territory of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders.”

It was sponsored by more than 90 countries and needed a two-thirds majority in the Assembly to pass.

Five countries - Belarus, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (more commonly known as North Korea) Eritrea, Russia and Syria - voted against it, while 35 abstained.

The voting capped off a rare special emergency session of the General Assembly that began on Monday, during which countries took to the podium to declare their positions on the crisis, now entering a second week.

Global elites continue to bow before the US Empire and do its bidding in forums like the UN. The global population is not nearly so timid; they recognize the greatest threat to world peace hasn't changed its intentions over the past fifty years:
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Russia cares a putrid f... about possible reaction of the West which wants to swallow its natural resources for free

Russia's persistence to hold an accession referendum in Ukraine continues unabated. The party led by Russian President Vladimir Putin, United Russia, has proposed holding several simultaneous referendums in the provinces occupied by Russian troops to decide on their accession to the Federation. These include the Lugansk and Donetsk regions, which make up the Donbas, and other regions such as Kherson, Zaporiyia and Nikolayev.


Every region holding a vote will not be part of Russia and they will lose the Crimea
 

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Ukraine should celebrate with concentrated M777 fire. Spread the love!
 

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