Russia Formally Warns US to Stop Arming Ukraine!

[DarthTrader]

We meant to do that

Meant to do what? I'm trying to give you PERSPECTIVE.

You're being told that a 12,000 ton displacement cruiser is the "pride" of Russia's fleet.

You realize that's the equivalent of an US Arleigh Burke class right?

Which again, USS Cole - destroyed by a dinghy.

 

[SC Patriot]

I worked for DoD for 40 years

I am aware of the difficulty of launching an amphibious assault from 90 miles away
See that ship yesterday?
China would lose many, many more

Thank you for you service

 

[SC Patriot]

You keep fantasizing that Russia could win a nuclear war

You don’t have the logistics to win a conventional war, how are you going to supply after a nuclear attack?

there are no winners in a nuclear war.

That is a fact.

 

[rightwinger]

God damn do you even know 1 ******* thing about anything?

BBC ON THIS DAY | 4 | 1982: Argentines destroy HMS Sheffield

news.bbc.co.uk

Looks like Russia didn’t learn a lesson from the Sheffield

 

[rightwinger]

Thank you for you service

I was a civilian but thanks anyway

 

[rightwinger]

there are no winners in a nuclear war.

That is a fact.

Very true

That is why MAD has worked for 70 years

 

[DarthTrader]

It was the flag ship of the Black Sea fleet dumfuk

Flag ship is wherever the commander sits, in the US Navy this is also usually an Arleigh Burke given their flexibility in their operational use and comms.

You're the dumb ****. It's like you've never even served in a Navy.

S-100-H.001 S-100-H.001 USS Bunker Hill (CV 17) burning after kamikaze attack - 11 May 1945

www.history.navy.mil

You people are dumber than shit.

CV stands for CRUISER because aircraft carriers were originally cruiser classes. To this day the US Navy does not operationally use modern Aircraft carriers as flag ships in active naval war zones, this is an operational doctrine, it's never been enforced because the US doesn't go to war against nations with real navies.

And these cruiser class ships is a wide range. Slava is at the very bottom range of tonnage.

 

[sartre play]

Find it most interesting that people who did not know where Ukraine was a month ago now now are experts on the situation.
What we do know is that civilians are being killed. Men women & children, there homes being destroyed. Non military Russian population suffers also. Nothing good about war.

 

[Failzero]

Looks like Russia didn’t learn a lesson from the Sheffield

Or the General Belgrano

 

[justoffal]

This mythos is simply not true with Nuclear weapons....but I don't know where to begin fixing your misconceptions.

It is with the bigger megatonnage. You don't have to fix my misconceptions they don't need fixing. Unleashing several hundred megatons in total anywhere inside the ecosystem of the Earth will eventually eliminate agriculture globally in less than 5 years.

There won't be a single food source left that will be useful.

The Tsar Bomba was an isolated blast and that shock wave did three full circles around the world... we're talking about a dispersed coverage. The results to the global ecosystem would probably be irreversible.

 

[DarthTrader]

Looks like Russia didn’t learn a lesson from the Sheffield

You sound like an idiot.

There's no "lesson" to be learned.

It's operational specific. If you have to clear a room with a gun and there's a guy in there with a suicide vest. You don't have "options". What happens happens, you might get lucky. It's not like there's some magic bullet that changes the mission.

Pathetic spineless shits like you don't even know why veterans don't hug walls in fire fights but stand 1-2 feet off the wall. It's because bullets will ricochete down walls for some distance coming out in random places.

You simply don't know what you're talking about and act because the US doesnt' talk about its own casualties that the US doesn't have casualties.

The US has 40,000+ amputees and over 30,000 of them are multiple amputees from Iraq.

But you just ******* don't know.

 

[rightwinger]

Is that why Ukraine's army is in the Donbas pocket and Ukraine lost 50% of its GDP? lol

50 days in and Ukraine is still fighting and there is no end in sight.

What was envisioned as a quick invasion with quick Ukrainian capitulation has turned into a quagmire.

Not winning is losing for Russia

20,000 dead is not winning
A sunk cruiser is not winning
The destruction of the Russian economy is not winning

 

[DarthTrader]

It is with the bigger megatonnage. You don't have to fix my misconceptions they don't need fixing. Unleashing several hundred megatons in total anywhere inside the ecosystem of the Earth will eventually eliminate agriculture globally in less than 5 years.

There won't be a single food source left that will be useful.

Megatons isn't what's important. Most nuclear warheads are in the 150kt to 350kt range and designed to blow-up airports and specific hardened targets.

What matters is the surplus of neutrons. But you really don't know what that means, at all.

 

[DarthTrader]

50 days in and Ukraine is still fighting and there is no end in sight.

What was envisioned as a quick invasion with quick Ukrainian capitulation has turned into a quagmire.

Not winning is losing for Russia

20,000 dead is not winning
A sunk cruiser is not winning
The destruction of the Russian economy is not winning

Who envisioned quick capitulation? CNN?

Because Russia doesn't seem to have believed that at all. They don't operate like it.

20,000 dead? Russia doesn't admit to that. But Ukraine does have over 40,000 dead, and that's admitted to. So who's counting.

You seem to know so much bullshit but you can't see reality.

Reality is the map, and Russia now controls 50% of Ukraine's economic wealth.

 

[justoffal]

Megatons isn't what's important. Most nuclear warheads are in the 150kt to 350kt range and designed to blow-up airports and specific hardened targets.

What matters is the surplus of neutrons. But you really don't know what that means, at all.

All one needs to do is observe Fukushima.... There is no need to go into the details of particle physics. We're talking about deadly pollution with absolutely no way to mitigate it. There's no such thing as speedy dry for nuclear radiation.

 

[Failzero]

50 days in and Ukraine is still fighting and there is no end in sight.

What was envisioned as a quick invasion with quick Ukrainian capitulation has turned into a quagmire.

Not winning is losing for Russia

20,000 dead is not winning
A sunk cruiser is not winning
The destruction of the Russian economy is not winning

Yep Argentina knows about all of that

 

[DarthTrader]

50 days in and Ukraine is still fighting and there is no end in sight.

What was envisioned as a quick invasion with quick Ukrainian capitulation has turned into a quagmire.

Not winning is losing for Russia

20,000 dead is not winning
A sunk cruiser is not winning
The destruction of the Russian economy is not winning

Argentina lost the falklands war but sank a few UK ships. So your "points" are not real points. You just don't understand that wars are messy. What matters is the map.

Falklands War ends | June 14, 1982 | HISTORY

After suffering through six weeks of military defeats against Britain’s armed forces, Argentina surrenders to Great B...

www.history.com

You're just too ******* stupid to look a map.

 

[DarthTrader]

All one needs to do is observe Fukushima.... There is no need to go into the details of particle physics. We're talking about deadly pollution with absolutely no way to mitigate it. There's no such thing as speedy dry for nuclear radiation.

Fukushima is not even remotely similar. Nuclear fuel by its nature has excess (surplus) neutrons.

Nuclear warheads by their nature, do not. Except for a specific class of nuclear warhead, all nuclear detonations have net-deficit of neutrons. Meaning the final result is relatively low radiation.

Look at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

 

[justoffal]

Who envisioned quick capitulation? CNN?

Because Russia doesn't seem to have believed that at all. They don't operate like it.

20,000 dead? Russia doesn't admit to that. But Ukraine does have over 40,000 dead, and that's admitted to. So who's counting.

You seem to know so much bullshit but you can't see reality.

Reality is the map, and Russia now controls 50% of Ukraine's economic wealth.

There was never any doubt in my mind that Russia would eventually prevail...and yes we are being fed Garbage news by Western media. Zalensky is a nit wit....all he had to do is sign a few papers and agree to talk...instead he chose to destroy his whole country.

 

[Failzero]

Argentina lost the falklands war but sank a few UK ships. So your "points" are not real points. You just don't understand that wars are messy. What matters is the map.

Falklands War ends | June 14, 1982 | HISTORY

After suffering through six weeks of military defeats against Britain’s armed forces, Argentina surrenders to Great B...

www.history.com

You're just too ******* stupid to look a map.

The Belgrano was the largest Ship of its kind sunk since WW2 ( Until THE Moskova)