Russia Formally Warns US to Stop Arming Ukraine!

[Kondor3]

Russia spent way more on its nuclear logistics than on its conventional logistics.

The reason for this is simple, Russia (Soviets) had a different operational sphere than today.

They had 2,000,000 soldiers in Poland and East Germany ready to pour into France along railways and highways.

They didn't expect to ever have to operate in open ground (Ukraine and Belarus) where German breakouts in WW2 caused fronts to collapse or be enveloped in open field warfare.

Russia is confronting a problem it was never prepared for, it did its best to update and modernize but that takes time, and it is doing its best to control costs. 200,000 soldiers to do a job the Soviets expected it'd need 10,000,000 to do.

In the battle of Kursk which took place in the same areas as war today, the Donbas region alone had 2,000,000 soldiers operating against the Germans.

Do not mistake that the Russians have two legacies. A conventional (described above), and the strategic.

The Russian strategic advantage is nightmarish and real.

The Russian Army is the second-best Army in Ukraine...

 

[rightwinger]

Why would you believe more CIA trash?

Azov Battalion, the pride of Ukraine, is now all dead. ALL DEAD. They were Ukraine's best fighters. But go on, believe the CIA lol.

When Putin starts reporting his deaths on a daily basis and honoring his dead, I will believe his claims

 

[DarthTrader]

Hey. Smart ass. CV stands for Carrier Vessel. Not for cruiser. You are not qualified to ridicule people based on your knowledge.

This thread needs to stop until this ******* dumb ass respects the fact that CV stands for "Cruiser Voler" and not for "Carrier vessel" precisely because the original Aircraft Carriers were themselves...cruiser class hulls.

I will not accept anything less than my dick being sucked.

I'm tired of you dumb shits not knowing what you're talking about so you don't understand how you're all being lied to.

 

[DarthTrader]

The Russian Army is the second-best Army in Ukraine...

Is that why Ukraine is a smoldering ruin and lost 100% of its oil and gas fields? You'd think the best army in Ukraine would repel only the second best.

 

[rightwinger]

How is your economy doing comrade? Now Sweden and Finland will have joined NATO by end of year. At the rate Russia's GDP is collapsing, it will be equal to Sweden's Next year. How is Putin going to stay in power when his people are starving?

So many Russobots on this board. Not very efficient.

Yes, Putin has accomplished so much with his invasion

20,000 dead and no end in sight
Exposed the weakness of his military
Solidified the Western Alliance
Sweden and Finland join NATO
Destroyed his economy
Made Russia an international pariah

Looks like Trump was right, Putin is a Genius

 

[DarthTrader]

When Putin starts reporting his deaths on a daily basis and honoring his dead, I will believe his claims

Well considering that only 1,500 confirmed Russian dead have been identified by the Western side, I'd say the "20,000" dead is highly suspect.

Especially since the Russians only started with a combat force of ~150,000. And that combat force is still pulverising Ukraine. Where are the "replacements" then?

 

[DarthTrader]

Yes, Putin has accomplished so much with his invasion

20,000 dead and no end in sight
Solidified the Western Alliance
Sweden and Finland join NATO
Destroyed his economy
Made Russia an international pariah

Looks like Trump was right, Putin is a Genius

Sweden and Finland both won't join NATO. LOL.

You are sure guilty of claiming victories where there are none.

Russia's economy isn't destroyed. As I said, 2x earnings this year versus last year.

Russia isn't an international pariah. Europe can't stop importing their oil and gas, and India doesn't give a shit. Neither does China.

I think 3/7ths of the world's population outweighs 1/8th in the "vote for most pariah status".

 

[Zincwarrior]

Is that why Ukraine is a smoldering ruin and lost 100% of its oil and gas fields? You'd think the best army in Ukraine would repel only the second best.

You seem angry. Did you lose some buddies when they assaulted Kiev?

 

[justoffal]

Jesus-H-Tap-Dancing-Christ-on-a-Crutch, mods... just how many Russian trolls are you going to allow online here?

What are you talking about? Surely you have not assumed that Western media is towing the mark on this one. Russia is in a war yes but they have been for the past ten years. The reason we are seeing more now is because the DC swamprats are losing their CIA constructed playground and no show job provider for their miscreant offspring courtesy of the American Tax Payer.

 

[justoffal]

Sweden and Finland both won't join NATO. LOL.

You are sure guilty of claiming victories where there are none.

Russia's economy isn't destroyed. As I said, 2x earnings this year versus last year.

Russia isn't an international pariah. Europe can't stop importing their oil and gas, and India doesn't give a shit. Neither does China.

I think 3/7ths of the world's population outweighs 1/8th in the "vote for most pariah status".

I have pointed out time and again that Moscow's back door relationship with China trade-wise is more than enough to replace whatever the west thinks they can remove. The Ruble is currently stable. At least the ruble isn't 90% debt like the dollar is.

 

[DarthTrader]

You seem angry. Did you lose some buddies when they assaulted Kiev?

I just lament the fact that you dumb asses have nothing valid to say.

I've explained to you ship classes, weapons statistics, Ukraine war situations on the map, real GDP numbers.

And you all believe dumb shit on CNN, it's pathetic. No wonder Biden is a moron and Russia is winning.

 

[DarthTrader]

I have pointed out time and again that rushes back to a relationship with China trade-wise is more than enough to replace whatever the west thinks they can remove. The Ruble is currently stable. At least the ruble isn't 90% debt like the dollar is.

The irony is that to buy oil in Rubles you must "loan" Rubles from the Russian Central Bank at 20% interest. But, dumb ass Democrats don't know the first thing about running a business so there's that...

 

[justoffal]

Boy you're so dumb you don't know the first thing about Russia.

Q12022 Russia exports 2x value of Q12021 exports.

Russia made 2x more money this year than last so far LOLOL

What's your hearing and seeing is all the product of Western propaganda rags and media channels. All them would do well to tune out MSNBC, CNN and fox and start listening to the BBC and Al Jazeera. The coverage is vastly different.

 

[AZrailwhale]

If Iran or any other country is attacked by the US, we can most likely conclude that the invaded country will be armed by Russia and will have the capability of destroying a large US warship.

The complection of proxy wars is forever changed, regardless of whether Russia's ship was hit by a missile.

UHH, you are about seventy years too late with that. North Korea was supplied by the Soviets when it launched its unprovoked attack on South Korea in 1950, North Vietnam was supplied by the Soviet Union when it launched its attack on South Vietnam in the early sixties and was completely rearmed and trained by the Soviets when it launched its new war of conquest against South Vietnam in 1975. Egypt and the other Arab countries were armed by the Soviets when they launched their various attacks on Israel. I could go on and on. What is Russia going to do that the Soviets haven't been doing to the entire western world ever since 1945?

 

[Vastator]

If Iran or any other country is attacked by the US, we can most likely conclude that the invaded country will be armed by Russia and will have the capability of destroying a large US warship.

The complection of proxy wars is forever changed, regardless of whether Russia's ship was hit by a missile.

Yup. Because this isn’t your typical proxy war, as we are used to fighting them. For us it’s usually proxy vs proxy. No so in this case. It’s the US using a proxy to directly engage Russia on its border. No matter how you “feel” about the war, its totally different from the Russians perspective. And continuing to supply Ukraine risks Americans being attacked. And if I were in Russias position, I can’t say I’d do differently.
We need to mind our own ******* business.

 

[AZrailwhale]

I'm only looking at the possibility of Russia finding a way out of their mess that isn't peaceful.
You might be able to do this Joe?

Russia wasn't peaceful when it invaded Ukraine and seized Crimea, it wasn't peaceful when it invaded Georgia and seized Ossetia, it wasn't peaceful when it sent "volunteers" from its army into Donbass to foment a revolution against Ukraine, and it certainly wasn't peaceful when it invaded Ukraine in its failed attempt to conquer the entire country and that's all within the past decade. Then there's the Hungarians, Czechs and Poles who got invaded by Russia for trying to object to being ruled form Moscow.

 

[DarthTrader]

What's your hearing and seeing is all the product of Western propaganda rags and media channels. All them would do well to tune out MSNBC, CNN and fox and start listening to the BBC and Al Jazeera. The coverage is vastly different.

I go to Al Jazeera for news that makes me a shit ton of money in the markets. Because knowing reality earns you money. Whodathunk.

 

[Kondor3]

Is that why Ukraine is a smoldering ruin and lost 100% of its oil and gas fields? You'd think the best army in Ukraine would repel only the second best.

The only thing you a$$hole$$ have going for you is Quantity... not Quality... man-for-man, and vehicle-for-vehicle, they are kicking your a$$e$...

 

[DarthTrader]

Russia wasn't peaceful when it invaded Ukraine and seized Crimea, it wasn't peaceful when it invaded Georgia and seized Ossetia, it wasn't peaceful when it sent "volunteers" from its army into Donbass to foment a revolution against Ukraine, and it certainly wasn't peaceful when it invaded Ukraine in its failed attempt to conquer the entire country and that's all within the past decade. Then there's the Hungarians, Czechs and Poles who got invaded by Russia for trying to object to being ruled form Moscow.

Ukraine was genociding Russians in Crimea and Donbas. This is a fact. Look up the Azov Battalion.

 

[DarthTrader]

The only thing you a$$hole$$ have going for you is Quantity... not Quality... man-for-man, and vehicle-for-vehicle, they are kicking your a$$e$...

Uh no. LOLOL.

Ukraine has lost 6x the vehicles Russia has lost proportional to their stockpile of vehicles.

But typical American, Results don't matter. Only virtue signalling and feel-good moralism.