Root Cause of Most Mass Shootings in America

[EvilEyeFleegle]

In my lifetime, I have seen a transition in the shootings

In the 60s and 70s it was assasination
JFK, MLK, RFK, John Lennon, Reagan, Ford..

In the 70s and 80s it became serial killings
Son of Sam, BTK, Zodiak killer, DC Sniper

After the 80s it became mass killers
Columbine, Aurora, Sandy Hook, Parkland

The common denominator? Media attention! One incident spawns more..and more. Until there is a new flavor of the decade.

You think the media should have ignored the assasination of JFK?

I do not...obviously. Not a comment calling for action..just an observation over 5 decades..a trend noted. Do you believe that there is no correlation between media frenzy and mass shootings?

 

[Jitss617]

Two graphs because the first only goes to 2015 and the second starts in 1982.

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Americans have always owned guns. My father and his friends took rifles to school to go rabbit hunting afterwards. Machine guns and even cannons were owned by citizens through much of American history.

So what changed during the 1960’s to start this upward trend?

I’ll offer a theory as to what occurred. If you don’t like it, fine. But offer your own theory as to the catalyst that started this.

Since 1962 school children have no longer been told they are special and we are all created equal in the image of God. This was replaced by teaching children they are no more significant than a tree in a forest. Since then the number of Christians in America has been on the decline, replaced by people who now feel no embarrassment about wanting to murder babies after they are born.

The greatest trick Satan ever played was convincing people he does not exist.

If you don’t like the theory, fine. Then offer your own without the personal attacks.

The fatherless rate in the black community went from 17% to 77% current day..
Almost all the mass shooters came from a broken home .. fix the family

And yet the majority of mass shooters are white males? given this fact..what relevance is your citing of Black families with no fathers? I'm sure that the dysfunctional family plays a role in psychosis...and the pathology of mass shooters..but your opening sentence smacks of a darker (pun intended) agenda.

I’m pretty sure close to 300 blacks were shot this weekend that is a mass.. you don’t have to treat them equal or consider that a problem but I do..

ROTFLMAO!

Really?? Nice attempt to conflate two completely different issues...again...your motives are showing..whether or not you care to own them. LOL@own them!
How many Whites, Asians, etc. were shot? What were the demographics? Mass shooters are often white, middle to upper class. There are exceptions..and I'm sure you'll find some...but do try to avoid hammering at the square peg in a vain attempt to make it fit the round hole.

The kind of endemic gun violence you are attempting to label 'mass shootings' is different--a truer picture would show the causal link between poverty and violence..in a rather classic curve.
But thank you for the laugh....

You are factually wrong on every level.. The poorest town in America is in Kentucky and 100% of the population owns guns and there hasn’t been a murder in years .

2nd there are mass shootings of blacks every weekend in towns run by democrats.. are you saying Chicago, Baltimore, Boston, Camden, St. Louis, Detroit, Oakland, aren’t run. By democrats!?
Why don’t you consider their lives worthy of mass deaths EVERY WEEK.??

 

[2aguy]

Most civilized nations do not execute murderers and they do not suffer from the gun violence we do

Sweden has a mass murderer of 70 something people living in a condo and getting out soon. If it works for them, they can have it.

In America execution for taking a life.

Do you really believe euros have a bigger murder rate than the USA?
Unbelievable

If you include the mass murder of 12 million innocent men, women and children by the socialists in Germany with the cooperation of the European governments...yes, their murder rate is higher than ours. You guys just don't count murder by government....

Boy, the blind...
So we are counting Stalin now?
Not hitlers nationalist socialists?
I'm talking Nordic, UK
TODAY
Do you really think theUK is more violent than the Us?
I'm waiting for the knife crime!!
And do you know a violent crime there is bashing someone over the head with a pint glass.?
Please let us know how many years you lived in terror in the UK.
I do, every year.
They laugh at us darlin

Maybe it's because a lot grew up in air raid shelters and our pantywaist USboys are just laughable.
Ps the London knife crime is in a VERY small section.
Most people love the city.
I did, lived there 6 years
You?
Mississippi?

Ps the London knife crime is in a VERY small section.

PS....U.S. gun crime is in an even tinier section of the U.S.....tiny voting districts controlled by the democrat party....

 

[Wry Catcher]

Two graphs because the first only goes to 2015 and the second starts in 1982.

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Americans have always owned guns. My father and his friends took rifles to school to go rabbit hunting afterwards. Machine guns and even cannons were owned by citizens through much of American history.

So what changed during the 1960’s to start this upward trend?

I’ll offer a theory as to what occurred. If you don’t like it, fine. But offer your own theory as to the catalyst that started this.

Since 1962 school children have no longer been told they are special and we are all created equal in the image of God. This was replaced by teaching children they are no more significant than a tree in a forest. Since then the number of Christians in America has been on the decline, replaced by people who now feel no embarrassment about wanting to murder babies after they are born.

The greatest trick Satan ever played was convincing people he does not exist.

If you don’t like the theory, fine. Then offer your own without the personal attacks.

With the assassination of JFK, RFK and MLK rational people abhorred easy access to guns - it took a generation for the American people to forget, and for the gun manufacturers and the NRA to begin to speak out, using guns as the solution to gun violence and dollars to make guns another wedge issue adopted by the GOP.

 

[2aguy]

We used to execute murderers. Who stopped that?

Most civilized nations do not execute murderers and they do not suffer from the gun violence we do

Sweden has a mass murderer of 70 something people living in a condo and getting out soon. If it works for them, they can have it.

In America execution for taking a life.

Do you really believe euros have a bigger murder rate than the USA?
Unbelievable

If you include the mass murder of 12 million innocent men, women and children by the socialists in Germany with the cooperation of the European governments...yes, their murder rate is higher than ours. You guys just don't count murder by government....

Boy, the blind...
So we are counting Stalin now?
Not hitlers nationalist socialists?
I'm talking Nordic, UK
TODAY
Do you really think theUK is more violent than the Us?
I'm waiting for the knife crime!!
And do you know a violent crime there is bashing someone over the head with a pint glass.?
Please let us know how many years you lived in terror in the UK.
I do, every year.
They laugh at us darlin

The U.K. is more violent than the U.S.....actual research shows this...

Now, tell us that Politifact is biased against the left wing agenda....

Social media post says U.K. has far higher violent crime rate than U.S. does

We thought Bier’s points were reasonable, so we tried to replicate his approach. We looked at the raw violent crime numbers for each country, using statistics for England and Wales for 2012 and for the United States for 2011, in a way that sought to compare apples to apples. (We should note that the United Kingdom includes Scotland and Northern Ireland, but the numbers in the meme appear to be based only on crime in England and Wales, which are calculated separately.)

For England and Wales, we added together three crime categories: "violence against the person, with injury," "most serious sexual crime," and "robbery." This produced a rate of 775 violent crimes per 100,000 people.

For the United States, we used the FBI’s four standard categories for violent crime that Bier cited. We came up with a rate of 383 violent crimes per 100,000 people.

This calculation suggests that there is a higher rate of crime in England and Wales, but the discrepancy is not anywhere near as wide as the one cited in the meme.

 

[2aguy]

Two graphs because the first only goes to 2015 and the second starts in 1982.

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Americans have always owned guns. My father and his friends took rifles to school to go rabbit hunting afterwards. Machine guns and even cannons were owned by citizens through much of American history.

So what changed during the 1960’s to start this upward trend?

I’ll offer a theory as to what occurred. If you don’t like it, fine. But offer your own theory as to the catalyst that started this.

Since 1962 school children have no longer been told they are special and we are all created equal in the image of God. This was replaced by teaching children they are no more significant than a tree in a forest. Since then the number of Christians in America has been on the decline, replaced by people who now feel no embarrassment about wanting to murder babies after they are born.

The greatest trick Satan ever played was convincing people he does not exist.

If you don’t like the theory, fine. Then offer your own without the personal attacks.

With the assassination of JFK, RFK and MLK rational people abhorred easy access to guns - it took a generation for the American people to forget, and for the gun manufacturers and the NRA to begin to speak out, using guns as the solution to gun violence and dollars to make guns another wedge issue adopted by the GOP.

Moron.....as more Americans not only own guns, but as more Americans actually carry guns, the gun murder rate went down 49%, the gun crime rate went down 75%, the violent crime rate went down 72%....

that blows your theory all to hell...

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[2aguy]

We used to execute murderers. Who stopped that?

Most civilized nations do not execute murderers and they do not suffer from the gun violence we do

Na, not really

They have one fifth the murder rate we do

They have one fifth the murder rate we do

Culture.

As they say, a country founded by aggressive convicts and religious nuts.
What do we expect?
We were lynching blacks not that long ago.
Hidden Trump genes still present

We were lynching blacks not that long ago

Wrong....members of the democrat party were lynching blacks not that long ago.....

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Two graphs because the first only goes to 2015 and the second starts in 1982.

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Americans have always owned guns. My father and his friends took rifles to school to go rabbit hunting afterwards. Machine guns and even cannons were owned by citizens through much of American history.

So what changed during the 1960’s to start this upward trend?

I’ll offer a theory as to what occurred. If you don’t like it, fine. But offer your own theory as to the catalyst that started this.

Since 1962 school children have no longer been told they are special and we are all created equal in the image of God. This was replaced by teaching children they are no more significant than a tree in a forest. Since then the number of Christians in America has been on the decline, replaced by people who now feel no embarrassment about wanting to murder babies after they are born.

The greatest trick Satan ever played was convincing people he does not exist.

If you don’t like the theory, fine. Then offer your own without the personal attacks.

The fatherless rate in the black community went from 17% to 77% current day..
Almost all the mass shooters came from a broken home .. fix the family

And yet the majority of mass shooters are white males? given this fact..what relevance is your citing of Black families with no fathers? I'm sure that the dysfunctional family plays a role in psychosis...and the pathology of mass shooters..but your opening sentence smacks of a darker (pun intended) agenda.

I’m pretty sure close to 300 blacks were shot this weekend that is a mass.. you don’t have to treat them equal or consider that a problem but I do..

ROTFLMAO!

Really?? Nice attempt to conflate two completely different issues...again...your motives are showing..whether or not you care to own them. LOL@own them!
How many Whites, Asians, etc. were shot? What were the demographics? Mass shooters are often white, middle to upper class. There are exceptions..and I'm sure you'll find some...but do try to avoid hammering at the square peg in a vain attempt to make it fit the round hole.

The kind of endemic gun violence you are attempting to label 'mass shootings' is different--a truer picture would show the causal link between poverty and violence..in a rather classic curve.
But thank you for the laugh....

You are factually wrong on every level.. The poorest town in America is in Kentucky and 100% of the population owns guns and there hasn’t been a murder in years .

2nd there are mass shootings of blacks every weekend in towns run by democrats.. are you saying Chicago, Baltimore, Boston, Camden, St. Louis, Detroit, Oakland, aren’t run. By democrats!?
Why don’t you consider their lives worthy of mass deaths EVERY WEEK.??

So..you cherry pick some small town in Kentucky..probably with a 40% of the residents on disability..and use this to support your argument?

Do you really believe...that a political party..either one..runs anything..in a large city? Our culture does not depend on either party for its issues. Political parties just attempt to ride the wave..twist whatever is happening to fit an agenda..so they can obtain or perpetuate some semblance of power. Most adults know this. A 400m+ member society has weight and inertia of its own.

This is a national issue..so you have to use national statistics..or you are just pounding your pud. Look at all violence in America..take out race..***ouch*** I know it hurts..but humor me--then use a x/y graph..x=amount of annual income y=shooters. If you really want to get fancy throw in Z=age.

Where do you think the median ends up?

BTW..none of this has jack to do with mass shooting..remember..the topic?

 

[2aguy]

Two graphs because the first only goes to 2015 and the second starts in 1982.

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Americans have always owned guns. My father and his friends took rifles to school to go rabbit hunting afterwards. Machine guns and even cannons were owned by citizens through much of American history.

So what changed during the 1960’s to start this upward trend?

I’ll offer a theory as to what occurred. If you don’t like it, fine. But offer your own theory as to the catalyst that started this.

Since 1962 school children have no longer been told they are special and we are all created equal in the image of God. This was replaced by teaching children they are no more significant than a tree in a forest. Since then the number of Christians in America has been on the decline, replaced by people who now feel no embarrassment about wanting to murder babies after they are born.

The greatest trick Satan ever played was convincing people he does not exist.

If you don’t like the theory, fine. Then offer your own without the personal attacks.

The fatherless rate in the black community went from 17% to 77% current day..
Almost all the mass shooters came from a broken home .. fix the family

And yet the majority of mass shooters are white males? given this fact..what relevance is your citing of Black families with no fathers? I'm sure that the dysfunctional family plays a role in psychosis...and the pathology of mass shooters..but your opening sentence smacks of a darker (pun intended) agenda.

Number of people killed by all mass public shooters in 2018?

93.

Number of people killed by majority gang and other criminals in 2017....?

10,982....

Mass public shooters are not a big problem.....democrats allowing repeat gun offenders in minority neighborhoods to kill each other and other innocents is the much larger problem....that you don't care about.

 

[MacTheKnife]

Justice delayed is justice denied.

When a suspect in a mass shooting is caught there needs to be a speedy trial and if found guilty...executed immediately....there should be no appeals or any other kind of delays allowed....it should be a public execution....a hanging....without a hood...it should be televised....such justice would destroy all the illusions these idiots have of wanting to be famous...willing to comitt the most heinous crime to get famous...that is how sick they are and it is contagious....time to destroy that demonic disease....and I am convinced a speedy trial and execution is the way to do it.

 

[2aguy]

Two graphs because the first only goes to 2015 and the second starts in 1982.

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Americans have always owned guns. My father and his friends took rifles to school to go rabbit hunting afterwards. Machine guns and even cannons were owned by citizens through much of American history.

So what changed during the 1960’s to start this upward trend?

I’ll offer a theory as to what occurred. If you don’t like it, fine. But offer your own theory as to the catalyst that started this.

Since 1962 school children have no longer been told they are special and we are all created equal in the image of God. This was replaced by teaching children they are no more significant than a tree in a forest. Since then the number of Christians in America has been on the decline, replaced by people who now feel no embarrassment about wanting to murder babies after they are born.

The greatest trick Satan ever played was convincing people he does not exist.

If you don’t like the theory, fine. Then offer your own without the personal attacks.

The fatherless rate in the black community went from 17% to 77% current day..
Almost all the mass shooters came from a broken home .. fix the family

And yet the majority of mass shooters are white males? given this fact..what relevance is your citing of Black families with no fathers? I'm sure that the dysfunctional family plays a role in psychosis...and the pathology of mass shooters..but your opening sentence smacks of a darker (pun intended) agenda.

I’m pretty sure close to 300 blacks were shot this weekend that is a mass.. you don’t have to treat them equal or consider that a problem but I do..

ROTFLMAO!

Really?? Nice attempt to conflate two completely different issues...again...your motives are showing..whether or not you care to own them. LOL@own them!
How many Whites, Asians, etc. were shot? What were the demographics? Mass shooters are often white, middle to upper class. There are exceptions..and I'm sure you'll find some...but do try to avoid hammering at the square peg in a vain attempt to make it fit the round hole.

The kind of endemic gun violence you are attempting to label 'mass shootings' is different--a truer picture would show the causal link between poverty and violence..in a rather classic curve.
But thank you for the laugh....

the causal link between poverty and violence..in a rather classic curve.

The actual cause is broken homes...headed by single, teenage mothers raising children from multiple boyfriends without a father in the home...that is what causes poverty and violence.....and leads to young, male sociopaths killing people...

If you finish highschool, get any job, don't have a criminal record.........and get married before you have children, the chances your children will be criminals or poor are reduced drastically....

 

[2aguy]

The fatherless rate in the black community went from 17% to 77% current day..
Almost all the mass shooters came from a broken home .. fix the family

And yet the majority of mass shooters are white males? given this fact..what relevance is your citing of Black families with no fathers? I'm sure that the dysfunctional family plays a role in psychosis...and the pathology of mass shooters..but your opening sentence smacks of a darker (pun intended) agenda.

I’m pretty sure close to 300 blacks were shot this weekend that is a mass.. you don’t have to treat them equal or consider that a problem but I do..

ROTFLMAO!

Really?? Nice attempt to conflate two completely different issues...again...your motives are showing..whether or not you care to own them. LOL@own them!
How many Whites, Asians, etc. were shot? What were the demographics? Mass shooters are often white, middle to upper class. There are exceptions..and I'm sure you'll find some...but do try to avoid hammering at the square peg in a vain attempt to make it fit the round hole.

The kind of endemic gun violence you are attempting to label 'mass shootings' is different--a truer picture would show the causal link between poverty and violence..in a rather classic curve.
But thank you for the laugh....

You are factually wrong on every level.. The poorest town in America is in Kentucky and 100% of the population owns guns and there hasn’t been a murder in years .

2nd there are mass shootings of blacks every weekend in towns run by democrats.. are you saying Chicago, Baltimore, Boston, Camden, St. Louis, Detroit, Oakland, aren’t run. By democrats!?
Why don’t you consider their lives worthy of mass deaths EVERY WEEK.??

So..you cherry pick some small town in Kentucky..probably with a 40% of the residents on disability..and use this to support your argument?

Do you really believe...that a political party..either one..runs anything..in a large city? Our culture does not depend on either party for its issues. Political parties just attempt to ride the wave..twist whatever is happening to fit an agenda..so they can obtain or perpetuate some semblance of power. Most adults know this. A 400m+ member society has weight and inertia of its own.

This is a national issue..so you have to use national statistics..or you are just pounding your pud. Look at all violence in America..take out race..***ouch*** I know it hurts..but humor me--then use a x/y graph..x=amount of annual income y=shooters. If you really want to get fancy throw in Z=age.

Where do you think the median ends up?

BTW..none of this has jack to do with mass shooting..remember..the topic?

Yes....the political party that controls judge appointments.....prosecutors and the laws that govern sentencing guidelines for violent gun offenders drives the crime rate in these democrat party controlled cities.

Analysis | The surprising way gun violence is dividing America

In the most Democratic regions, gun violence is more often committed against another, crimes that probably generate more news coverage and fear. In the most Republican areas, it is more often committed against oneself, suicides that may not attract as much attention.

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As the below charts show, Democratic areas (measured by the party that controls the congressional district) are far more likely to experience almost all forms of malicious gun violence than Republican areas.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Two graphs because the first only goes to 2015 and the second starts in 1982.

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Americans have always owned guns. My father and his friends took rifles to school to go rabbit hunting afterwards. Machine guns and even cannons were owned by citizens through much of American history.

So what changed during the 1960’s to start this upward trend?

I’ll offer a theory as to what occurred. If you don’t like it, fine. But offer your own theory as to the catalyst that started this.

Since 1962 school children have no longer been told they are special and we are all created equal in the image of God. This was replaced by teaching children they are no more significant than a tree in a forest. Since then the number of Christians in America has been on the decline, replaced by people who now feel no embarrassment about wanting to murder babies after they are born.

The greatest trick Satan ever played was convincing people he does not exist.

If you don’t like the theory, fine. Then offer your own without the personal attacks.

The fatherless rate in the black community went from 17% to 77% current day..
Almost all the mass shooters came from a broken home .. fix the family

And yet the majority of mass shooters are white males? given this fact..what relevance is your citing of Black families with no fathers? I'm sure that the dysfunctional family plays a role in psychosis...and the pathology of mass shooters..but your opening sentence smacks of a darker (pun intended) agenda.

Number of people killed by all mass public shooters in 2018?

93.

Number of people killed by majority gang and other criminals in 2017....?

10,982....

Mass public shooters are not a big problem.....democrats allowing repeat gun offenders in minority neighborhoods to kill each other and other innocents is the much larger problem....that you don't care about.

You do not get to define just what I do or do not care about...in truth..I don't really 'care' about any of it--I like to comment on social issues...I firmly believe that solutions are inherent in the system and take decades to implement. I live in a vastly majority white state..and look..people kill people! Go figure?

 

[Jitss617]

The fatherless rate in the black community went from 17% to 77% current day..
Almost all the mass shooters came from a broken home .. fix the family

And yet the majority of mass shooters are white males? given this fact..what relevance is your citing of Black families with no fathers? I'm sure that the dysfunctional family plays a role in psychosis...and the pathology of mass shooters..but your opening sentence smacks of a darker (pun intended) agenda.

I’m pretty sure close to 300 blacks were shot this weekend that is a mass.. you don’t have to treat them equal or consider that a problem but I do..

ROTFLMAO!

Really?? Nice attempt to conflate two completely different issues...again...your motives are showing..whether or not you care to own them. LOL@own them!
How many Whites, Asians, etc. were shot? What were the demographics? Mass shooters are often white, middle to upper class. There are exceptions..and I'm sure you'll find some...but do try to avoid hammering at the square peg in a vain attempt to make it fit the round hole.

The kind of endemic gun violence you are attempting to label 'mass shootings' is different--a truer picture would show the causal link between poverty and violence..in a rather classic curve.
But thank you for the laugh....

You are factually wrong on every level.. The poorest town in America is in Kentucky and 100% of the population owns guns and there hasn’t been a murder in years .

2nd there are mass shootings of blacks every weekend in towns run by democrats.. are you saying Chicago, Baltimore, Boston, Camden, St. Louis, Detroit, Oakland, aren’t run. By democrats!?
Why don’t you consider their lives worthy of mass deaths EVERY WEEK.??

So..you cherry pick some small town in Kentucky..probably with a 40% of the residents on disability..and use this to support your argument?

Do you really believe...that a political party..either one..runs anything..in a large city? Our culture does not depend on either party for its issues. Political parties just attempt to ride the wave..twist whatever is happening to fit an agenda..so they can obtain or perpetuate some semblance of power. Most adults know this. A 400m+ member society has weight and inertia of its own.

This is a national issue..so you have to use national statistics..or you are just pounding your pud. Look at all violence in America..take out race..***ouch*** I know it hurts..but humor me--then use a x/y graph..x=amount of annual income y=shooters. If you really want to get fancy throw in Z=age.

Where do you think the median ends up?

BTW..none of this has jack to do with mass shooting..remember..the topic?

90% of all daily gun violence happens in towns run by democrats in cities with huge revenue and blacks continue to struggle, Because of democrat policy.
Mass blacks shootings are happening every week by black shooters.. not whites.. call me every few years when whites shoot up a place .. MASS SHOOTINGS ARE DONE BY BLACKS FAR MORE THEN WHITES.

 

[2aguy]

The fatherless rate in the black community went from 17% to 77% current day..
Almost all the mass shooters came from a broken home .. fix the family

And yet the majority of mass shooters are white males? given this fact..what relevance is your citing of Black families with no fathers? I'm sure that the dysfunctional family plays a role in psychosis...and the pathology of mass shooters..but your opening sentence smacks of a darker (pun intended) agenda.

I’m pretty sure close to 300 blacks were shot this weekend that is a mass.. you don’t have to treat them equal or consider that a problem but I do..

ROTFLMAO!

Really?? Nice attempt to conflate two completely different issues...again...your motives are showing..whether or not you care to own them. LOL@own them!
How many Whites, Asians, etc. were shot? What were the demographics? Mass shooters are often white, middle to upper class. There are exceptions..and I'm sure you'll find some...but do try to avoid hammering at the square peg in a vain attempt to make it fit the round hole.

The kind of endemic gun violence you are attempting to label 'mass shootings' is different--a truer picture would show the causal link between poverty and violence..in a rather classic curve.
But thank you for the laugh....

You are factually wrong on every level.. The poorest town in America is in Kentucky and 100% of the population owns guns and there hasn’t been a murder in years .

2nd there are mass shootings of blacks every weekend in towns run by democrats.. are you saying Chicago, Baltimore, Boston, Camden, St. Louis, Detroit, Oakland, aren’t run. By democrats!?
Why don’t you consider their lives worthy of mass deaths EVERY WEEK.??

So..you cherry pick some small town in Kentucky..probably with a 40% of the residents on disability..and use this to support your argument?

Do you really believe...that a political party..either one..runs anything..in a large city? Our culture does not depend on either party for its issues. Political parties just attempt to ride the wave..twist whatever is happening to fit an agenda..so they can obtain or perpetuate some semblance of power. Most adults know this. A 400m+ member society has weight and inertia of its own.

This is a national issue..so you have to use national statistics..or you are just pounding your pud. Look at all violence in America..take out race..***ouch*** I know it hurts..but humor me--then use a x/y graph..x=amount of annual income y=shooters. If you really want to get fancy throw in Z=age.

Where do you think the median ends up?

BTW..none of this has jack to do with mass shooting..remember..the topic?

Democrat policy....

DC Won’t Allow Concealed Carry, But Takes It Easy On Armed, Violent Criminals

The problems stem from the city’s Youth Rehabilitation Act, legislation implemented in the 1980s to provide leniency to criminal offenders under the age of 22, even violent ones, with murder convictions being the only exception. It allows judges to disregard mandatory minimums meant to dissuade criminals, often to disastrous effects. The homicide rate spiked by 54 percent in the District in 2015, and 22 of the murderers were previously sentenced for crimes under the Youth Rehabilitation Act, according to an investigation by The Washington Post.

A man released on probation in 2015 under the law was involved in the July shooting death of Deeniquia Dodds, a transgender man. Just over 120 people previously sentenced under the Youth Rehabilitation Act have subsequently been convicted of murder since 2010.

“I knew they were going to let me off easy,” Tavon Pinkney, an 18-year old convicted of homicide in 2015, told The Washington Post regarding his previous sentencing under the youth law. “Nothing changed … They just gave me the Youth Act and let me go right back out there. They ain’t really care.”
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Democrat policies....

Cook County, IL: 14-Year-Old Charged With Shooting Two, Freed Without Supervision - The Truth About Guns

Welcome to Cook County, Illinois, where crime often has no meaningful consequences. Between a State’s Attorney’s Office reluctant to file charges and judges who mollycoddles defendants, Chicagoland has become the modern Wild West.

Case in point: a 14-year-old who (reportedly) shot and tried to kill two in a nice uptown neighborhood was released by a judge Friday to his parent with no bond – not even electronic home monitoring.


The Cook County judge claims the police failed to bring this suspected would-be gang killer (pictured above, right) in front of a judge quickly enough. So the judge, in order to penalize the police, released the kid without conditions other than to report to court next week.

Of course, the judge is really only penalizing the community as the accused certainly missed his calling as a choir boy.

The police, on the other hand, said they had concerns about the young man’s safety. Police released images of the suspects to the media in an effort to identify them and the media published them.

The Chicago mainstream media refer to the accused as a “boy.” Even though this “boy”reportedly shot one man in the back, abdomen, buttocks and groin and the other in the head.
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16 year old shooter released on 10,000 bond.....Cuomo's Raise the age bill for family court let this shooter go free on bail...

https://www.dailywire.com/news/44304/case-16-year-old-accused-shooting-bronx-street-hank-berrien

Bronx Supreme Court Justice John Collins made Garcia’s release contingent on either $10,000 bail or $25,000 bond, he made bail and he was freed. As The New York Post explains, “The law already guarantees that he can’t be held in a jail that also houses adults — and if convicted, his sentencing judge would have to take his age into account.”
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On Monday, prosecutor Daniel Defilippi indicated he would try to stop the case from being transferred to Family Court. Assemblywoman Nicole Malliotakis, referring to the case as a “prime example” of the problems with the Raise the Age bill, said, “One of the things we brought up during debate was how this encourages gang recruitment. Gangs can recruit young people to do dirty work because they won’t be treated the same when caught.
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Residents of the neighborhood acknowledged that the neighborhood has become a frightening place to live; one said, “We don’t go out. We don’t go to the park. I keep my kids in the house. We’re scared.” Another commented, “People don’t feel safe. People shooting in the street like that? No one is safe.” A third commented of the young girl, “She is lucky. Like an angel is watching over her because she was really close.”

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Democrat policies...

But Democrat State’s Attorney Julia Reitz cut a deal to let Robbie Patton, a sociopathic predator who will never contribute anything but sewage and sadness to our society, avoid serving hard time for attempted murder.

It’s true. Bad guys in prison don’t victimize the innocent. Florida had proven success with 10-20-Life sentencing enhancements for the use of a firearmwhile committing a violent crime. A court struck down the law in 2016. Under the law, Florida’s firearmviolent crime rate plummeted to the lowest levels in the Sunshine State’s recorded history.


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John Boch: Lock Them Up! - The Truth About Guns

When you lock up violent criminals, you prevent them from victimizing other innocents. Crime in America dipped almost 50%after America abandoned “soft on crime” attitudes of the 1970s. Of course, many soft-on-crime politicians like Reitz have once more taken a love to “diversion” programs. And that’s how we get Robbie Patton (above), a local crime celebrity of sorts.

In 2015, he had an altercation at a Champaign Steak ‘n Shake restaurant commonly frequented by my friends and me. While none of us were enjoying a milkshake or steakburger at 5:30pm, Robbie was.

Robbie found himself in an altercation inside the restaurant. He felt one of his friends had been “disrespected”, so little Robbie went outside. He waited for the other group to emerge, pulled out of gun and tried to kill those other people.

He missed, and fled the scene with an Illinois State Trooper in hot pursuit. After a short, high-speed chase in a stolen car, Robbie crashed and escaped on foot.

Cops caught up with him. Local prosecutor Julia Reitz then went soft on little Robbie. She let him go to “boot camp”, even though that sentencing option is not supposed to be available for violent offenders. And squeezing off a bunch of shots at other people, trying to kill them, pretty much fits the bill as a violent crime.

After serving eight months on an eight-year sentence, Robbie returned to the streets of Champaign-Urbana. In less than two days, cops arrested him again for drugs and who knows what else. Not even three weeks after that, he’s illegally got agun. When someone “disrespects” another one of Robbie’s friends, guess what he does? He pulls out the gun and fires shots at those he believes responsible.




He misses his intended targets, but in the busy University of Illinois campustown district, his errant, not-so-late-night rounds found four innocent people within a block or two. George Korchev, the recent nursing school graduate due to start his career as a registered nurse at a hospital in Libertyville, IL, the following Monday morning, was struck and killed a blockaway from one of Robbie’s bullets.

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Democrat policies....

California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.

and for all those anti-gunners who want to know where criminals get guns....well...this law lowers the prison time for those who give guns to criminals.....

Why is that?

Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

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felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds

 

[Weatherman2020]

Two graphs because the first only goes to 2015 and the second starts in 1982.

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Americans have always owned guns. My father and his friends took rifles to school to go rabbit hunting afterwards. Machine guns and even cannons were owned by citizens through much of American history.

So what changed during the 1960’s to start this upward trend?

I’ll offer a theory as to what occurred. If you don’t like it, fine. But offer your own theory as to the catalyst that started this.

Since 1962 school children have no longer been told they are special and we are all created equal in the image of God. This was replaced by teaching children they are no more significant than a tree in a forest. Since then the number of Christians in America has been on the decline, replaced by people who now feel no embarrassment about wanting to murder babies after they are born.

The greatest trick Satan ever played was convincing people he does not exist.

If you don’t like the theory, fine. Then offer your own without the personal attacks.

The fatherless rate in the black community went from 17% to 77% current day..
Almost all the mass shooters came from a broken home .. fix the family

And yet the majority of mass shooters are white males? given this fact..what relevance is your citing of Black families with no fathers? I'm sure that the dysfunctional family plays a role in psychosis...and the pathology of mass shooters..but your opening sentence smacks of a darker (pun intended) agenda.

Only because the majority of Americans are white.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Two graphs because the first only goes to 2015 and the second starts in 1982.

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Americans have always owned guns. My father and his friends took rifles to school to go rabbit hunting afterwards. Machine guns and even cannons were owned by citizens through much of American history.

So what changed during the 1960’s to start this upward trend?

I’ll offer a theory as to what occurred. If you don’t like it, fine. But offer your own theory as to the catalyst that started this.

Since 1962 school children have no longer been told they are special and we are all created equal in the image of God. This was replaced by teaching children they are no more significant than a tree in a forest. Since then the number of Christians in America has been on the decline, replaced by people who now feel no embarrassment about wanting to murder babies after they are born.

The greatest trick Satan ever played was convincing people he does not exist.

If you don’t like the theory, fine. Then offer your own without the personal attacks.

The fatherless rate in the black community went from 17% to 77% current day..
Almost all the mass shooters came from a broken home .. fix the family

And yet the majority of mass shooters are white males? given this fact..what relevance is your citing of Black families with no fathers? I'm sure that the dysfunctional family plays a role in psychosis...and the pathology of mass shooters..but your opening sentence smacks of a darker (pun intended) agenda.

I’m pretty sure close to 300 blacks were shot this weekend that is a mass.. you don’t have to treat them equal or consider that a problem but I do..

ROTFLMAO!

Really?? Nice attempt to conflate two completely different issues...again...your motives are showing..whether or not you care to own them. LOL@own them!
How many Whites, Asians, etc. were shot? What were the demographics? Mass shooters are often white, middle to upper class. There are exceptions..and I'm sure you'll find some...but do try to avoid hammering at the square peg in a vain attempt to make it fit the round hole.

The kind of endemic gun violence you are attempting to label 'mass shootings' is different--a truer picture would show the causal link between poverty and violence..in a rather classic curve.
But thank you for the laugh....

I’ve spent a lot of time in communities where the average income is $5 a month.

Never felt safer.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Here is a study for you to ponder..note that they use per capita stats:

I note that my home state..as Red as you will ever get..constitutional carry etc. ranks 11th!

Alabama #1 in fact..first 4 States as red as they come..

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

I guess the CDC is a Democratic Stronghold? LOL! those scientists don't give a hoot about politics.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Two graphs because the first only goes to 2015 and the second starts in 1982.

View attachment 260547
View attachment 260546

Americans have always owned guns. My father and his friends took rifles to school to go rabbit hunting afterwards. Machine guns and even cannons were owned by citizens through much of American history.

So what changed during the 1960’s to start this upward trend?

I’ll offer a theory as to what occurred. If you don’t like it, fine. But offer your own theory as to the catalyst that started this.

Since 1962 school children have no longer been told they are special and we are all created equal in the image of God. This was replaced by teaching children they are no more significant than a tree in a forest. Since then the number of Christians in America has been on the decline, replaced by people who now feel no embarrassment about wanting to murder babies after they are born.

The greatest trick Satan ever played was convincing people he does not exist.

If you don’t like the theory, fine. Then offer your own without the personal attacks.

The fatherless rate in the black community went from 17% to 77% current day..
Almost all the mass shooters came from a broken home .. fix the family

And yet the majority of mass shooters are white males? given this fact..what relevance is your citing of Black families with no fathers? I'm sure that the dysfunctional family plays a role in psychosis...and the pathology of mass shooters..but your opening sentence smacks of a darker (pun intended) agenda.

I’m pretty sure close to 300 blacks were shot this weekend that is a mass.. you don’t have to treat them equal or consider that a problem but I do..

ROTFLMAO!

Really?? Nice attempt to conflate two completely different issues...again...your motives are showing..whether or not you care to own them. LOL@own them!
How many Whites, Asians, etc. were shot? What were the demographics? Mass shooters are often white, middle to upper class. There are exceptions..and I'm sure you'll find some...but do try to avoid hammering at the square peg in a vain attempt to make it fit the round hole.

The kind of endemic gun violence you are attempting to label 'mass shootings' is different--a truer picture would show the causal link between poverty and violence..in a rather classic curve.
But thank you for the laugh....

I’ve spent a lot of time in communities where the average income is $5 a month.

Never felt safer.

Spent a lot of time in Africa have you? No wait..I found a population base that fits your assertion...Prison!!!!

 

[Weatherman2020]

Here is a study for you to ponder..note that they use per capita stats:

I note that my home state..as Red as you will ever get..constitutional carry etc. ranks 11th!

Alabama #1 in fact..first 4 States as red as they come..

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

I guess the CDC is a Democratic Stronghold? LOL! those scientists don't give a hoot about politics.

What’s your point? Blacks shoot up the most people? We already know that?