Roe v Wade is not going anywhere, you pompous wingnuts.

[Aba Incieni]

Is there some disagreement here? The party is Democrats.

The democrats love Wikipedia and they say "democratic".
Democratic Party (United States) - Wikipedia

Your own link calls them the Democrat Party. No matter what some love.

But if you and they prefer, we can refer to them as Democratics. Fine by me.

No, the Wikipedia link says "democratic".

The article calls them Democrats. But I like Democratics better now anyway.

Yes, they are called democrats. It would be grammatically incorrect to call them democratics.

Not if their party name is Democratic.

Democrat Party is the grammatically correct term for the Democratic Party. The Party is not "democratic," and proper nouns like "Democrat" are not converted into adjectives by adding "ic" as a suffix.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Here is the bottom line. It puts Roe vs Wade into the midterm elections. It cuts against Republicans among suburban women and some states that see the right to a abortion as freedom. Republicans already have trouble with suburban voters so it does not help. They may win the battle but lose the war.

This is doing the right thing under god.. you wouldn't know what that means yet child...

 

[Dana7360]

Her only form of birth control available was the rhythm method.

Are you actually unaware of the existence of condoms?

Yes I am.

As I said for my mother, her only form of birth control was the rhythm method as it was the only form for most women in the 50s.

Maybe you might want to ask that question to men? That's the form of birth control available to men. Not women.

I will say that back in those days married couples didn't use condoms. They used the rhythm method.

 

[Papageorgio]

Trump appointed Kavanaugh for his pro business leanings, and to pull his fat out of the fire when the hammer comes down.

Nobody's touching abortion. Deal with it, and donate to Planned Parenthood. It's a proven fact they reduce the number of abortions through education and birth control.

The above comments are factual, and are not subject to debate.

LOL- 'are not subject to debate'

While I agree with the part about Planned Parenthood certainly how Kavanaugh will vote on any issue regarding abortion is up for debate.

Personally I am fairly certain that at some point someone not technically part of the Trump administration asked Kavanaugh for his inclination towards Roe v. Wade and made certain it was against as part of the vetting process. All with plausible deniability.

Certainly there will be ongoing attempts to overturn Roe in the near future- the question will be whether there will just be a weakening of Roe's protections- or a complete overturn.

How many times since Roe v Wade has it been back to the courts? Roe v Wade is a dead issue and used by nuts to invoke fear. Been that way for decades.

 

[Papageorgio]

Trump appointed Kavanaugh for his pro business leanings, and to pull his fat out of the fire when the hammer comes down.

Nobody's touching abortion. Deal with it, and donate to Planned Parenthood. It's a proven fact they reduce the number of abortions through education and birth control.

The above comments are factual, and are not subject to debate.

Nonsense.

After Kennedy, no Republican president would dare to nominate a justice to the Court without ensuring he would vote to overturn Roe.

BS and you sincerely know it, you just use the fear to drive a decision. You people are absolutely dishonest.

 

[dblack]

I love the ambiguity of "pompous wingnuts". I mean, who among us hasn't been a pompous wingnut, at least from someone's perspective?

 

[SaxxyBlues]

I love the ambiguity of "pompous wingnuts". I mean, who among us hasn't been a pompous wingnut, at least from someone's perspective?

Does that mean you need to get drilled hard?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The far right party of American cultural fascism continues to emerge, adding a pro-life anti-baby stance to those of nativism, ubernationalism, ethnocentrism, white supremacy, racialism, and anti-democracy.

 

[TNHarley]

Dead humans still have dna. Are they alive?

No because they are dead and will not continue to develop (and their cells and organs die).

But you consider a zygote independent because it has unique DNA?

in·de·pend·ent
ˌindəˈpendənt/
adjective

1. 1.
   free from outside control; not depending on another's authority.
   "the study is totally independent of central government"
   synonyms: freethinking, free, individualistic; More
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2. 2.
   not depending on another for livelihood or subsistence.
   "I wanted to remain independent in old age"
   synonyms: self-sufficient, self-supporting, self-reliant, standing on one's own two feet
   "her grown-up, independent children"

Actually I rejected your presumption that independence is required to be alive or be a life. The zygote does depend on the mother to provide a temporary ecosystem for it to continue to develop.

A temporary ecosystem?
Dude, that thing gets its nutrients from her blood. It doesnt breath. It cant reproduce. It cant survive.
Its a load of horseshit.
Basically, it is POTENTIAL life.
It is NOT life. It is damn sure not independent.

Its okay if you don't understand basic biology. Your have lots of false axioms concerning life. Later on it's life cycle it will have all of those things. Biologically speaking, "being a potential life" is not part of the human life cycle.

Yes, later in life. That is my entire point.
Thanks.

 

[TNHarley]

Dead humans still have dna. Are they alive?

No because they are dead and will not continue to develop (and their cells and organs die).

When is a human being dead?

At death. Some consider a human dead when the brain ceases to function (and will never recover). I think I know where you are going with this.

Why? You think he wants to register some to vote?

 

[JoeMoma]

Dead humans still have dna. Are they alive?

No because they are dead and will not continue to develop (and their cells and organs die).

When is a human being dead?

At death. Some consider a human dead when the brain ceases to function (and will never recover). I think I know where you are going with this.

Why? You think he wants to register some to vote?

If a person's life ends when brain dead, then one could argue that a person's life begins when "brain alive".

 

[TNHarley]

Dead humans still have dna. Are they alive?

No because they are dead and will not continue to develop (and their cells and organs die).

When is a human being dead?

At death. Some consider a human dead when the brain ceases to function (and will never recover). I think I know where you are going with this.

Why? You think he wants to register some to vote?

If a person's life ends when brain dead, then one could argue that a person's life begins when "brain alive".

I meant to say "where" not why. It was a dead voter joke. Sorry i screwed it up :/

 

[JoeMoma]

No because they are dead and will not continue to develop (and their cells and organs die).

When is a human being dead?

At death. Some consider a human dead when the brain ceases to function (and will never recover). I think I know where you are going with this.

Why? You think he wants to register some to vote?

If a person's life ends when brain dead, then one could argue that a person's life begins when "brain alive".

I meant to say "where" not why. It was a dead voter joke. Sorry i screwed it up :/

got it.

 

[rightwinger]

Access to abortion will be severely limited in Red States and women will be embarrassed and scolded.

But Red States elected Trump, they deserve what they get

 

[Syriusly]

In your opinion- is abortion murder?

In my opinion, abortion is always the taking of a human life. The laws of the land determine if the taking of that life is murder or not.

Okay, you want to know if I think abortion should be considered murder.
I definitely do for late term, partial birth abortion.

For earlier term abortions, I admit that I am currently struggling with that.

I would like to discuss this seriously without any sniping.

I get what you are saying in the first part- you think that abortion is the taking of human life- but according to current law that it is not considered murder.

You personally consider late term abortion to be murder- but earlier term you are struggling with.

What is it you are struggling with?

I think it is because trying to make the issue black and white- when there is a lot of grey is difficult.

 

[Syriusly]

We are a republic, not a democracy.

Then get rid of the Democratic Party .

It's the Democrat Party. They are Democrats, not Democratics.

Actually, many prefer to be called the "democratic party", and they're nothing like the party of JFK. They're socialists and communists today.

We are? Really? I didn't get the memo.

You snowflakes are such idiots.

 

[Syriusly]

Trump appointed Kavanaugh for his pro business leanings, and to pull his fat out of the fire when the hammer comes down.

Nobody's touching abortion. Deal with it, and donate to Planned Parenthood. It's a proven fact they reduce the number of abortions through education and birth control.

The above comments are factual, and are not subject to debate.

LOL- 'are not subject to debate'

While I agree with the part about Planned Parenthood certainly how Kavanaugh will vote on any issue regarding abortion is up for debate.

Personally I am fairly certain that at some point someone not technically part of the Trump administration asked Kavanaugh for his inclination towards Roe v. Wade and made certain it was against as part of the vetting process. All with plausible deniability.

Certainly there will be ongoing attempts to overturn Roe in the near future- the question will be whether there will just be a weakening of Roe's protections- or a complete overturn.

How many times since Roe v Wade has it been back to the courts? Roe v Wade is a dead issue and used by nuts to invoke fear. Been that way for decades.

How many times? God- dozens of times as states have tried to get around Roe v. Wade.
The plan to overturn Roe v. Wade is already in motion - CNNPolitics
Over the past year, state legislatures in Iowa, Louisiana and Mississippi have advanced strict limits on abortion that some lawmakers believe could trigger a successful challenge to the landmark 1973 Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion nationwide.

 

[JakeStarkey]

We are a republic, not a democracy.

Then get rid of the Democratic Party .

It's the Democrat Party. They are Democrats, not Democratics.

Actually, many prefer to be called the "democratic party", and they're nothing like the party of JFK. They're socialists and communists today.

We are? Really? I didn't get the memo.

You snowflakes are such idiots.

And many good GOP deny that a cultural fascism is taking root in the far right of the party.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Trump appointed Kavanaugh for his pro business leanings, and to pull his fat out of the fire when the hammer comes down.

Nobody's touching abortion. Deal with it, and donate to Planned Parenthood. It's a proven fact they reduce the number of abortions through education and birth control.

The above comments are factual, and are not subject to debate.

LOL- 'are not subject to debate'

While I agree with the part about Planned Parenthood certainly how Kavanaugh will vote on any issue regarding abortion is up for debate.

Personally I am fairly certain that at some point someone not technically part of the Trump administration asked Kavanaugh for his inclination towards Roe v. Wade and made certain it was against as part of the vetting process. All with plausible deniability.

Certainly there will be ongoing attempts to overturn Roe in the near future- the question will be whether there will just be a weakening of Roe's protections- or a complete overturn.

How many times since Roe v Wade has it been back to the courts? Roe v Wade is a dead issue and used by nuts to invoke fear. Been that way for decades.

How many times? God- dozens of times as states have tried to get around Roe v. Wade.
The plan to overturn Roe v. Wade is already in motion - CNNPolitics
Over the past year, state legislatures in Iowa, Louisiana and Mississippi have advanced strict limits on abortion that some lawmakers believe could trigger a successful challenge to the landmark 1973 Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion nationwide.

Return abortion to the states, and American womanhood will vote the GOP out of existence.

 

[Syriusly]

Trump appointed Kavanaugh for his pro business leanings, and to pull his fat out of the fire when the hammer comes down.

Nobody's touching abortion. Deal with it, and donate to Planned Parenthood. It's a proven fact they reduce the number of abortions through education and birth control.

The above comments are factual, and are not subject to debate.

Nonsense.

After Kennedy, no Republican president would dare to nominate a justice to the Court without ensuring he would vote to overturn Roe.

BS and you sincerely know it, you just use the fear to drive a decision. You people are absolutely dishonest.

No- who is absolutely dishonest is you- Trump campaigned on appointing only pro-life justices-

During the beginning of the third presidential debate, Trump came out hard against abortion. He affirmed that, if elected, he would appoint only pro-life justices to the Supreme Court and that Roe v. Wade would be “automatically” overturned.

And has suggested that women who get abortions might be punished- and certainly the doctors that perform them should be.
Donald Trump, Abortion Foe, Eyes ‘Punishment’ for Women, Then Recants

Nothing dishonest about remembering the actual comments of the man appointing the Supreme Court justices- but it is dishonest to pretend that he never said them.