Roe overturned

[Harpy Eagle]

Long standing privileges and immunities.

longer than 50 years?

 

[ding]

As such then you have given up your right to privacy since no explicit enumerated right to privacy exists within the US Constitution.

The Privacy Act of 1974 (5 U.S.C. § 552a) protects personal information held by the federal government by preventing unauthorized disclosures of such information. Individuals also have the right to review such information, request corrections, and be informed of any disclosures.

There are no federal privacy laws regulating many companies, they're pretty much free to do what they want with the data, unless a state has its own data privacy law (more on that below). In most states, companies can use, share, or sell any data they collect about you without notifying you that they're doing so.

 

[woodwork201]

So you can't quote any post where I said people should be forced to get a vaccine against their will.

Noted

The threat of starvation is force. The threat of homelessness is force. Force does not require strapping them into a chair and injecting them against their will.

The recent NYC case forces the States to give gun permits on a Shall Issue basis. Did they go to the state and strap the agency into a chair and attach a robotic arm to their hand and physically force them? No. Force does not always mean physical force.

Force or threat Definition | Law Insider

Sample Contracts and Business Agreements

www.lawinsider.com

 

[Meister]

This fall, Roe is on the ballot. Personal freedoms are on the ballot. The right to privacy, liberty, equality — they’re all on the ballot,

Well, along with inflation, gas prices, illegal immigration, rising interest rates price of food, economy, crime......You know, the things that affect
everyone.

 

[Captain Caveman]

That's true. I can only tell you how I feel as a conservative. I assume other conservatives feel like I do.

Most certainly. I feel like the left is trying hard to destroy him and his family and all of his companies and all of his employees. If they succeed, it is certainly possible that he becomes a pauper from no fault of his own. That is the classic case of for whom conservatives do have empathy.

It would be terribly sad if he and his family and his employees were all brought to that because of the political scheming and hatred created through the lies of Democratic leaders pushing an agenda over truth.


Same thing; work or fight. I fight my own Republican congress person because he's a fraud. I donate to his primary opponents. I do what I can.

Wow. This is just sad. Your vote is bought with just a knock on the door? He didn't even have to give you a schilling and you sold your vote? No care for whether his plans or goals align with what you believe, you like him personally?

That is why we have Biden - because people voted against mean tweets without considering what Biden was very explicitly, very vocally, promising to do to our nation. Now that he's doing it, suddenly they no longer like him.

You cheated yourself and your community and your nation.

No, I don't normally vote in local elections. The green candidate, his son used to go to school with my eldest son, so I kinda know him. Voting ends at 10pm and I say sat there at about 7pm. I thought, "Sod it, I'll go up to the town hall and vote, I&ll give the vote to xxxx". I went up to vote without my voting card because I threw it out the day it came through the letterbox. Just told them my name and address, put the x on the paperwork and put it in the voting box. He came second, about 100 votes or so behind the Tory winner.

Come general election, I might not vote Tory, definitely not Labour or Lib Dems. So it depends on who's left on the voting form, and if they don't tickle my fancy, then probably back to Tory, but I'll see.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Quite an interesting read.

Abortion Rates by Country 2025

worldpopulationreview.com

 

[woodwork201]

You've proven nothing.

I'm okay with punishing rapists because I think rapists are pieces of shit. I don't follow any religion. I don't need some fantasy set of rules to tell me what is wrong and what is right...

And I'm OK with punishing abortionists because I think abortionists are pieces of shit. I don't need religion to tell me what is wrong and what is right. You keep saying that religious people can't recognize wrong from right but, somehow, you can. You're still a fucking hypocrite.

 

[eagle1462010]

You just want to date her.

Nope. I looked up the issue and she is SPOT THE FUCK ON.

 

[woodwork201]

If you can't pay closer attention to who you're talking to, maybe the internet's not for you.

Apology accepted.

Now you can apologize for your lie that I think your opinion is invalid.

The fact is that I don't think YOUR opinion is invalid, but you need to keep in mind that it is YOUR opinion, and what happens in someone else's life should not be determined by anyone else's opinion.

Would you also do away with same-sex marriage?

Why is the comparison about whether I would do away with same-sex marriage? Nobody did away with abortion. I would send same-sex marriage back to the states. I would encourage my representatives to vote against same-sex marriage or, if they do allow it, to ban same-sex couples from adopting/grooming children. I don't care what people do in their bedrooms that doesn't harm others. I also don't care what other states do, other than letting admitted perverts adopt children.

I will continue to push/support/donate to the fight to prevent perverts from adopting children so that they can groom them and increase the perverts in the US by harming and sickening the minds of adopted children. There are usually plenty of adoptive parents who will raise their adopted children in mentally healthy, loving, environments.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Poverty is not a personal choice, but a reflection of our society. Our culture ignores the root causes which are shaped by society and beyond the control of the individual. Like any disease dealing with the symptoms, crime, drugs, and deteriorating neighborhoods is not a cure it only relives the symptoms. It doesn't matter where the money comes from. If it does deal with the source of the problem, the children, then the money at best will only relieve current suffering and will do little to fix the problem.

Poverty us the result of poor personal choices.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

If the court overturned every law that is not in strict adherence to the constitution and without interpretations imposed by the philosophy of the living constitution, it would destroy the Unites States as we know it today

That would be a good thing.
.Maybe we'll call it "The GREAT Reset"!

BTW, the Founders absolutely disagree with the leftists "living Constitution"

 

[woodwork201]

Fetal pain as it has been called is simply a reaction to a stimulus. It is not perceived by the fetus in the way and adult perceives pain creating anxiety, fear, and need to escape . Typically a fetus will not experience fetal until 26 week of gestation and very few can experience it during the 1st trimester when 90% of abortions occur.

The pain you are ignoring is the pain of the unwanted child borne to parents that have no real love or desire for the child because they are consumed by their love for drugs, alcohol, money, career, or the freedom they would be denied by having a child. As study after study shows, the pain of the unwanted child translates into low self-esteem, poor performance in school, acceptance of gangs, drugs, and crime. Abolishing abortion will create hundreds of thousands of unwanted children.

abortionists would say that. The flailing and pulling away isn't pain... What a piece of shit.

 

[Flopper]

Ofcourse they are, because rather than wear a condom you’d rather just kill the baby for your convenience.

What a lot of nonsense. Most women that have an abortion were using contraceptives in month they got pregnant. . They either forgot it, were not using it correctly, or it simply failed which does happen with all contraception.

Anyone that believes this women use abortion as method of contraception doesn't understand how difficult is terminate a pregnancy's.

For years the Christian conservatives have created the big lie about abortion. It goes something like this. Most women that get abortions are whores and other degenerates, who frequent abortion mills, mostly blacks and Hispanics who have never seen the inside of church.

However the facts area bit a different. 62% are religiously affiliated. Most women that get abortion are White, typically in their twenties. About half have never had an abortion. Most work in low income jobs. The average age in 22 although about 12% are teenagers and 4% are minors. The largest prover of abortion in the country is Planned Parenthood. 75% of their client come to them they believe they are pregnant, only 3% get abortions.

 

[Flopper]

That would be a good thing.
.Maybe we'll call it "The GREAT Reset"!

BTW, the Founders absolutely disagree with the leftists "living Constitution"

I'm sure you would love it as would Russia and china.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I'm sure you would love as would Russia and china.

Getting desperate I see. You're looking foolish.

Here's what TJ said about your "living Constitution":

on every question of construction, carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was past.

 

[Man of Ethics]

It's in the Book of Matthew, which I listened to last night on James Earl Jones reading of the New Testament. It's also mentioned in the first or second chapter of Daniel, which I read last month. I was trying to reread the Old Testament books I hadn't read in a spell earlier this year. Now that I got James Earl Jones cds, I finally am getting to reread the books I have read numerous times in years ago. I think it's a few chapters past the Sermon on the Mount which seems to my memory is in or around Chapter 5, but it's before Chapter 16. lol I listened to the first 16 chapters of Matthew last night.

Agree 100%. As a Jew, I believe only in Old Testament (Tanakh). Charity is required in many places.

 

[Man of Ethics]

Government help? So now taking my money at the point of a gun is helping me to donate to charity? And an armed robber robbing me in Manhattan is just helping me be more biblical by donating to the poor robber?

The State has a Legitimate Right to tax citizens. A robber does not have such right.

 

[Man of Ethics]

Patently false.

Government has neither the obligation nor the authority to take from one person the fruits of their labor (forced servitude) and give it to another.

Government and The Will of The Majority is The Law.

 

[woodwork201]

If the court overturned every law that is not in strict adherence to the constitution and without interpretations imposed by the philosophy of the living constitution, it would destroy the Unites States as we know it today. I'm sure many conservatives would welcome it because they hate this country as it is today believing that a new nation founded on the constitution as founders wrote it would arise out of the ashes. Thankfully, there are few that share these beliefs.

We love the Constitution and the nation it created. You love the political, socialist, tyrannical nation of perverted Court findings based on retaining power for the Democratic Party. I say burn it down - judicially speaking. Restore what was intended. Absolutely.

If we do not do that, by what power or authority does the government govern? What gives them any power to do anything at all other than the Constitution? Are they born with blue blood? Do they have a God-given or inherited right to be above the rest of us?

Our forefathers made an agreement amongst themselves, 233 years ago, to surrender some self-autonomy and liberty in order to form a government to help provide services and protection for the States that they could not do as effectively on their own. That is why we have a government. That government was created and limited by the Constitution.

It is completely idiotic, nonsensical, tyrannical, to assume that the government created by the Constitution can operate outside of that Constitution in any way whatsoever. The Founders, and our forefathers, did not agree to what you see today and they did not surrender their liberties for what you see today. Therefore the current government, in many ways, are tyrants and usurpers.

If you support the tyranny and violations of the Constitution in any one thing then you must support any violation at all. Otherwise what limits are there to governmental power? Certainly not the Constitution; you have already surrendered it. Having no limits at all to their power and authority, look for our government, in time, to make the Soviet Union look absolutely libertarian.

Let's not hear from you any more about civil rights, about freedom of speech, about the right to a trial, or to an attorney, or to be free of unreasonable search and seizure. Let's not hear more from you about due process or compensation for taking property. You've accepted that the government has none of those limitations.

The only thing that stops them from doing any of those is their own benevolence - for as long as benevolence lasts. Until the Democrats can get rid of the filibuster and pack the Court. When that happens, the Soviet-style show trials going on against Trump will next go to all of the political prisoners currently held without charge, without trial, without attorneys, in the DC jails and, in turn, against every conservative on these and other political forums.

 

[eagle1462010]

What a lot of nonsense. Most women that have an abortion were using contraceptives in month they got pregnant. . They either forgot it, were not using it correctly, or it simply failed which does happen with all contraception.

Excuses Excuses and you contradict yourself in the sentence. Most wore it but then FORGOT