Roe overturned

[badger2]

Earlier in the thread, mentioned was Connecticut in leading anti-abortion history circa 1820.

1 Jul 2022 FFRF Lauds Wis. Heroes, Lambasts Heartless 'Antis' in Abortion Ban Fallout

FFRF lauds Wis. heroes, lambasts heartless ‘antis’ in abortion ban fallout - Freedom From Religion Foundation

The Freedom From Religion Foundation, which is based in Madison, Wis., is praising Wisconsin’s governor and attorney general for quickly filing a chal...

ffrf.org

'....There's no legal consensus that the 1849 law is still in effect, but the risk of prosecution closed Wisconsin's four clinics less than an hour after the Supreme Court handed down its decision....Secular, compassionate people of reason must challenge these intolerable Christian-based laws that are anti-woman and anti-liberty.'

 

[badger2]

'It is not enough for them that the Supreme Court repealed Roe v. Wade and turned the decision back to the state, setting in motion the closure of clinics....Unbelievably, the misnomered group, Pro-Life Wisconsin claims even the exception to save a woman's life should be removed from the statue.'
(FFRF Lauds Wis. Heroes, op cit)

 

[flan327]

Or, if it is more than 9 weeks, she can hop on a bus to go to an abortion clinic in a state that will allow abortions for her. Overturning Roe has certainly made getting an abortion less convenient for some women.

Back alley butchers are rejoicing

 

[toomuchtime_]

Back alley butchers are rejoicing

Obviously you haven't thought this through. AA pregnant woman who lives in a state with restrictive abortion laws can hope on a bus to go to a medical clinic in a state with more liberal abortion laws. Overturning Roe does not prevent any woman who wants an abortion in a medical clinic from getting one; it just makes it a little less convenient.

 

[dblack]

Back alley butchers are rejoicing

Yup. Like the coyotes love strict limits on immigration.

"The problem with making things crimes that aren't really crimes is that we still get real criminals." - Penn Jillette.

 

[flan327]

Obviously you haven't thought this through. AA pregnant woman who lives in a state with restrictive abortion laws can hope on a bus to go to a medical clinic in a state with more liberal abortion laws. Overturning Roe does not prevent any woman who wants an abortion in a medical clinic from getting one; it just makes it a little less convenient.

Who babysits her children?
What about time off from her JOB?
I can continue

 

[toomuchtime_]

Who babysits her children?
What about time off from her JOB?
I can continue

Bottom line is any woman who wants an abortion in a medical clinic will still be able to get one, but for some women it will be less convenient. There is no crisis, just some inconvenience.

 

[flan327]

Bottom line is any woman who wants an abortion in a medical clinic will still be able to get one, but for some women it will be less convenient. There is no crisis, just some inconvenience.

Are you a PREGNANT WOMAN?

 

[flan327]

Are you a PREGNANT WOMAN?

What about Plan B?

 

[badger2]

A woman's abortion convenience going to another state does not cover the implications of the POSCOTUS fuck-up. At least they're not buying the pro-life misnomer here:

3 Jul 2022 Wisconsin Catholic Church Vandalized with Abortion Graffiti

Roe overturned: Wisconsin Catholic church vandalized with abortion graffiti

Authorities said a Catholic church in Madison, Wisconsin, was vandalized with abortion messages following the U.S. Supreme Court's overturning of Roe v. Wade.

www.foxnews.com

This particular Atwood 'hood is a Daughters of the American Revolution citadel, where they do gestures of remembrance while wearing white gloves. Study this pathology.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Are you a PREGNANT WOMAN?

Clearly you are jonesing for a crisis to be horrified about, but overturning Roe merely made abortions only slightly less convenient for some woman but not impossible.

 

[badger2]

Clearly you are jonesing for a crisis to be horrified about, but overturning Roe merely made abortions only slightly less convenient for some woman but not impossible.

It's way more pathological than that. This overturning signals a resurgence of American nazism fueled by the Democrat party, just in case you were ignoring CIA-sponsored Ukrainian nazism.

 

[task0778]

Bottom line is any woman who wants an abortion in a medical clinic will still be able to get one, but for some women it will be less convenient. There is no crisis, just some inconvenience.

As I see it, mail order abortions where a drug can induce an abortion are about to be more commonplace. They're supposed to be good for up to10 weeks of a pregnancy, which means women better not wait too long to find out if they are in a family way. Such drugs will probably be illegal in states where any abortion is illegal, but I think enforcing that will be quite difficult. There will no doubt be friends, relatives, or associates living in abortion states that will help facilitate the transaction.

 

[emilynghiem]

I never thought Roe v Wade would ever be overturned, incredible. Mod Edit Deletion: There will be no advocacy of violence or rioting on the board today.

Wow! Another Historic moment - partial deletion instead of removing entire post. What next?

 

[badger2]

As I see it, mail order abortions where a drug can induce an abortion are about to be more commonplace. They're supposed to be good for up to10 weeks of a pregnancy, which means women better not wait too long to find out if they are in a family way. Such drugs will probably be illegal in states where any abortion is illegal, but I think enforcing that will be quite difficult. There will no doubt be friends, relatives, or associates living in abortion states that will help facilitate the transaction.

Fau Chi's NIH is already way ahead in studies: anti-coronavirus chemistry is also abortifacient chemistry: USMB search 'Withania.' The plants of yesteryear America include Pennyroyal, Cottonwood and Tree of Heaven (Ailanthus).

 

[badger2]

Ben Franklin prescribed Pennyroyal, pulegone being the active constituent, which can be fatal. Where are the reports of fatalities in Franklin's time?

 

[badger2]

It could be Fau Chi's experimental beagles that were given Franklin's pulegone, though the report costs $35.95 to find out:

Sep 1994 Merck Research laboratories, West Point, Pa. / HIV Protease Inhibition / Pulegone

Synthesis, antiviral activity, and bioavailability studies of gamma-lactam derived HIV protease inhibitors - PubMed

Incorporation of a gamma-lactam in hydroxyethylene isosteres results in modest inhibitors of HIV-1 protease. Additional structural activity studies have produced significantly more potent inhibitors with the introduction of the trisubstituted cyclopentane (see compound 20) as the optimum...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

'....This new amino acid amide surrogate can be readily prepared in large scale from (R)-pulegone.....in a dog model.'

A report from the Czech Republic, May 2022:

SARS-CoV-2 / Pulegone

Antiviral Activity of Selected Lamiaceae Essential Oils and Their Monoterpenes Against SARS-Cov-2 - PubMed

This study presents the very first report on the <i>in vitro</i> antiviral activity of selected essential oils of Lamiaceae plant species and their monoterpenes against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). Nineteen essential oils were obtained by hydrodistillation of...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Dec 2020 India / SARS-CoV-2 / Pulegone

Computational evaluation of major components from plant essential oils as potent inhibitors of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein - PubMed

COVID-19, caused by SARS-CoV-2 has recently emerged as a global pandemic. Intense efforts are ongoing to find a vaccine or a drug to control the disease across the globe. Meanwhile, alternative therapies are also being explored to manage the disease. Phytochemicals present in essential oils are...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[badger2]

Other pulegone-containing plants are Bursera graveolens and Glechoma hederacea.

Bursera graveolens

https://en.wikipeida.org/wiki/Bursera_graveolens

'....yoga studios and witch practitioners utilize it....ageing of some beers.'

The anti-Hepatitis B virus plant, Glechoma hederacea was also used in Anglo-Saxon beers of the 6th century (See Cockayne's Starcraft and Wortcunning).

Glechoma hederacea

Glechoma hederacea - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Cockayne, Leechdoms, Wortcunning and Starcraft

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/19495375-leechdoms-wortcunning-and-starcraft

We don't think Kennedy Jr. (The Real Anthony Fauci) knows that the pulegone trajectory links to Bill Gates backyard, Seattle, and the University of Mississippi for the connection to chloroquine:

Sep 1987 Dept. of Medicinal Chemistry, University of Washington, Seattle / Metabolism of Abortifacient Terpene, (R)-(+)-Pulegone

The metabolism of the abortifacient terpene, (R)-(+)-pulegone, to a proximate toxin, menthofuran - PubMed

(R)-(+)-Pulegone, the major monoterpene component of the abortifacient mint oil, pennyroyal oil, is metabolized by hepatic microsomal monooxygenases of the mouse to a hepatotoxin. The formation of a toxic metabolite is apparently mediated by cytochromes P-450 of the phenobarbital class inasmuch...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

'....cobaltous chloride and piperonyl butoxide block toxicity.'

The University of Mississippi, however, used the two blockers in the months previous to the Seattle study, and note the arrhythmia symptom linked to coronavirus biology:

Jul-Aug 1987 University of Mississippi Medical Center Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology / Chloroquine

Effect of cytochrome P-450 and flavin-containing monooxygenase modifying factors on the in vitro metabolism of amiodarone by rat and rabbit - PubMed

Experiments were conducted to affirm hepatic cytochrome P-450 involvement in the biotransformation of the class III antiarrhythmic agent, amiodarone (Am; Cordarone X) to its major metabolite, desethylamiodarone (DEA). Male Sprague-Dawley rats and male New Zealand white rabbits were treated with...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

'....class III antiarrhythmic agent, amiodarone....cobaltous chloride....piperonyl butoxide....was significantly decreased by 0.5 mM chloroquine.'

 

[badger2]

Bursera graveolens - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Flopper]

I'm sorry you are having so much difficulty understanding the issue that you have to resort to personal attacks, but restrictive abortion laws are obviously common sense in states that have them just as liberal abortion laws are common sense in states that have them. The simple fact is that overturning Roe will not prevent any women who wants an abortion from getting one; it will simply be a little less convenient.

Where have I done a personal attack in this thread? Generally I avoid personal attacks even if attack because I believe they are counterproductive and a waste of time.

I don't believe anyone that wants an abortion can get one. 75% of those that get abortions are low income and 15% of those are best described as being destitute. I'm referring to the homeless, runway kids, illegal immigrants without income, and women that for various reasons find themselves with nothing. Social welfare agencies in the state are certainly not going to help. And agencies outside the state will not be allowed to.

The top 25% which is middle income and the wealthy will of course have no problem. They'll just make their air reservations, get an abortion, recover in a nice hotel and fly home.