black are thre ones judging these dayds. racist;.
Nope. White libs are teh ones really driving this imo. Or at least just as much a part of it as the lefty blacks.
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black are thre ones judging these dayds. racist;.
yep all the libs. manhj people still on here arguing over this statue. my myNope. White libs are teh ones really driving this imo. Or at least just as much a part of it as the lefty blacks.
Sorry you're not satisfied with my answer but it was a 'if pigs had wings...' type of hypothetical.ok, so the point of that question about what if the Confederacy never rebelled,
I don't disagree. I can't give you an algorithm, it is more akin to what was said about pornography, impossible to define but you know it when you see it.So, really the standard is very vague.
Ever ask yourself why the country and the world has moved left for the past 200 years? Maybe you are you just an out-of-step anachronism?This is about demonstrating the political power of the Left, over that of Whites, especially conservative or even non-liberal whites.
Sorry you're not satisfied with my answer but it was a 'if pigs had wings...' type of hypothetical.
I don't disagree. I can't give you an algorithm, it is more akin to what was said about pornography, impossible to define but you know it when you see it.
Ever ask yourself why the country and the world has moved left for the past 200 years? Maybe you are you just an out-of-step anachronism?
I believe I said their rebellion was one of several factors.I'm fine with your answer. You were claiming that it was all about the fact that the Confederacy rebelled,
Google 'hypothetical'.and when presented with a scenario where they did NOT rebel, we discovered that that was not true.
I'd bet the Blacks in VA were never OK with a Lee statue on public land so 'sudden' doesn't apply. It just took a very long time to change Virginia's power structure.Got it. So whites are "free" to celebrate their heritage and culture, and they cannot know if what they are doing it ok, until libs decide, often long after teh fact, that they have a problem with it, and suddenly the whites in question are "Bad" and will be attacked and suppressed.
These things work both ways. Lee's statue was erected at a time where there was no "tolerance". Had that been considered there would be no issues today.And that is what "tolerance" and "diversity" and "multiculturalism" means.
Certainly. The French Revolution was pretty ugly.Oh, without a doubt, I am "out of step". Question for you, is it possible for a society (or the world) to go too far to the left and what does that look like?
So far it has be very good. Just ask anyone who is gay, non-White, female, poor, or disabled.Are you implying that the reason you support this discrimination, is because you think that "going left" is the same as "progress" and thus always "good"?
I believe I said their rebellion was one of several factors.
Google 'hypothetical'.
I'd bet the Blacks in VA were never OK with a Lee statue on public land so 'sudden' doesn't apply. It just took a very long time to change Virginia's power structure.
These things work both ways. Lee's statue was erected at a time where there was no "tolerance". Had that been considered there would be no issues today.
Certainly. The French Revolution was pretty ugly.
So far it has be very good. Just ask anyone who is gay, non-White, female, poor, or disabled.
If I steal your car and I get caught, would you accept the argument that since I have the car now we should just leave it with me so we can live together happily?Ok, we are getting somewhere. I agree with you on that. Question is, why are you supporting behavior like that? I thought the goal was equality and tolerance and living together happily.
Exactly wrong. I only agreed that anything can be taken to the extreme and that is a bad thing.Ok. Good. And I agree. So, just citing the leftward trend of the world, is not really a reasonable argument then, is it?
So the Whites that benefited from their position owe nothing to those that supplied that benefit? See above.My position is that we have gone too far. That attempts to make up for past, sometimes LONG PAST discrimination against "traditionally disadvantaged groups" has grown to the point of, NOT equality, but of actual "reverse discrimination" against whites, especially straight white males.
You say, "ask anyone who is...", but, does the voice of the white male count AT ALL?
Note, I am NOT asking for supremacy, just equal treatment. So, don't get confused by your conditioned response.
If I steal your car and I get caught, would you accept the argument that since I have the car now we should just leave it with me so we can live together happily?
Exactly wrong. I only agreed that anything can be taken to the extreme and that is a bad thing.
So the Whites that benefited from their position owe nothing to those that supplied that benefit? See above.
A statue of a thief would be a benefit to that thief.A statue standing in the park is not me possessing and benefitting from stolen property.
Living together peacefully was always a goal. Mutual respect is another.Are you admitting that "living together peacefully" was never the goal, but something else, and if so, what is?
Agreed.You were pointing to the fact that we have been going in that direction in the past, as though that means we should continue going in that direction.
You also acknowledge that it is possible to go too far.
Your opinion is duly noted.My response to you, is that we have gone too far, and are continuing to go too far. We have moved past "equality" and have moved on to "payback" or "anti-white discrimination"
Again, you are welcome make any claims you choose, just don't expect them to be shared by me.So, I make the claim that we have reached a point past "equality" to "anti-white discrimination" and instead of disagreeing with me, you ask a question that seems to be defending the idea and practice of anti-white discrimination.
A statue of a thief would be a benefit to that thief.
Living together peacefully was always a goal. Mutual respect is another.
Agreed.
Your opinion is duly noted.
Again, you are welcome make any claims you choose, just don't expect them to be shared by me.
Being a traitor is an important thing. Being a supporter of slavery is also an important thing. Being at least partly responsible hundreds of thousands of deaths is also an important thing. Being a symbol of White Supremacy, Jim Crow, lynchings, and the KKK are also important things. Which part of these points are vague?YOu harped on the rebellion, like it was such an important thing. THen you admitted, that no, it was a more general, vague thing. Then you claimed it was some type of returning of stolen property, and now you are just making up shit.
Wrong, racist. I'm white and was active in having ConfedeRAT statues removed in Virginia. Don't like it? I certainly don't care what racists think.Robert E. Lee statue removed in Virginia
The largest remaining Confederate statue in the United States, depicting Civil War General Robert E. Lee, was taken down in Richmond, Virginia. The governor ordered its removal last year, but the effort was stalled until the Virginia Supreme Court decided to remove it last week.www.nbcnews.com
the chopped it up ewe. blacks destroying history still.
Those missions were in many instances equivalent to concentration camps. Today's white right of course couldn't care less about the suffering caused by European imperialists and racists. All that matters is that you feel good about being a backward ignorant bigoted kkkracker.Statues of Father Serra are being removed in California. They will be tearing down the Missions before too long.
You wouldn't know logic if it bit you on the butt.All democrats now and in US history, including the current dems in congress, Obama, Biden, etc., should be removed from all positions of authority, should lose any jobs and should be expunged from history because of the democrat connections to slavery and Jim Crow.
This in standing with current democrat illogic as all context is disallowed.
History is not constituted by statues. BOOKS are where you find history. Read any books lately?MarcATL Yeah right that's their goal, to "preserve" the history they are destroying.
Being a traitor is an important thing. Being a supporter of slavery is also an important thing. Being at least partly responsible hundreds of thousands of deaths is also an important thing. Being a symbol of White Supremacy, Jim Crow, lynchings, and the KKK are also important things. Which part of these points are vague?
You are a liar. But then all whiteright supporters of the Orange Fascist are steeped in lies. And really how much do all of you trashing any anti-racist movement care about racism? All you care about is your "right" to continue to be drooling racist reprobates dragging the country down as you've always done.Gov Blackface taking a stand against the democrat Party's racist past
Can you imagine the reaction if this were Donald Trump in blackface?
Oh and what is the "real" reason we don't want Jim Crow monuments looming over us in every town? Do elaborate, eh?All of them, because NONE of them are the real reason. Because ALL of them can be removed and your position would be the same.
History is not constituted by statues. BOOKS are where you find history. Read any books lately?
And so, your comment is idiotic and nonsensical, as is everything that comes from the white right reactionary scared bigoted fascist entitled racists now creating all this noise pollution with their crying and wailing.