Deplorable Yankee
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All evs are turning into one use disposable cars ...no one wants a new one even less want a second hand ev
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thats a world of difference than a concrete road,, thats what I was calling stupid,,No, it isn't. The Rivian can't do the real Rubicon Trail. It can do the bypasses, so can my Subaru Outback. I've done it. If I tried to do the real Rubicon in my Outback I would need to be winched over pretty much every obstacle, and, at the end of the trail, which is just a few miles by the way, my Outback would be a complete write off.
sure are a lot of people buying them for you to say NO ONE wants one,, and what is less than no one??All evs are turning into one use disposable cars ...no one wants a new one even less want a second hand ev
the videos I saw are a lot more than a rough dirt road,,That time tells me they used ALL of the bypasses. They didn't tackle a single obstacle. So basically they drove on a fairly rough dirt road, but that's it.
They didn't do a single bit of serious off road driving.
Out in the west that is a rough dirt road. When I am on my computer I will post up what the real Rubicon looks likethe videos I saw are a lot more than a rough dirt road,,
They are made from synthetic materials now.Almost all tires suck these days.
dont bother,,Out in the west that is a rough dirt road. When I am on my computer I will post up what the real Rubicon looks like
dont bother,,
I just watched some of the videos and its far from just a rough dirt road,,
your problem is youre trying to compare it to a custom built off roader instead of a off the shelf stock car/truck,,
That's the point, right there.your problem is youre trying to compare it to a custom built off roader instead of a off the shelf stock car/truck,,
A Rubicon already has a far more aggressive drivetrain than a Rivian, and 33" tires are larger than stock Rivian tires, which also won't have the aggressive tread pattern of what comes on a Rubicon. A Rivian was never built to compete with a Rubicon off-road.A stock Gladiator Rubicon on factory 33 inch tires was able to traverse it as well, just recently.
Rivian didn't say they did the Rubicon via bypasses, they just claimed to have done the Rubicon.
And the government wasn't forcing people to buy internal combustion cars. In fact most people still used horses in those days. Same thing with cell phones, they were a luxury item at first. I worked for the phone company when cell phones first came out. We had ONE cell phone for the entire district, it was used by whichever supervisor was the off hours duty supervisor, so he was always in touch for emergencies.the first cell phones costs thousands and could barely call across town,,
other than the model T the first cars cost far outside of the average persons reach and they were very limited and came with extra parts to rebuild the engine on the side of the road,, and they are to this day still working on infrastructure,,
No shit sherlock. If the boys from Rivian had merely said "we did the Rubicon trail using the bypasses" no one would care. For a stock truck that isn't too bad. But they didn't. They implied that they did the ACTUAL Rubicon trail. Have you seen the beginning of the trail? Here it is. A Rivian couldn't even successfully leave the parking lot, much less do the trail itself.A Rubicon already has a far more aggressive drivetrain than a Rivian, and 33" tires are larger than stock Rivian tires, which also won't have the aggressive tread pattern of what comes on a Rubicon. A Rivian was never built to compete with a Rubicon off-road.
This is comparing apples to oranges.
Unless I'm wrong, the Rubicon is a lot more than twelve miles long.None of them seem to have been there. One link is from Rivian, one is a news station that have just reported what they've pulled off the wire, and the other two, Hot Cars and Motortrend, were clearly not there either.
Motortrend: Since you're probably dying to know if the Rivian um, died, on the trail—no, it apparently did not. Rivian reports that the R1S electric SUV entered the trail with about 80 percent charge and finished with under 10 percent, reportedly using about 75 percent of the total 135-kWh battery pack energy. Here's the kicker, though—it was only 12 miles long.
Hot Cars: According to Rivian, the stock R1S and its crew completed the Rubicon trail around 3:30 pm after beginning at 7:45 am on August 9th.
I may be cheap, but I could never take a brand new forty or fifty grand truck offroad. If I was civilian off-roading, I'd want something older and cheaper that wouldn't break my heart if I scratched it or bent some Sheetmetal. That's why I did my off-roading in the Army where uncle sam paid for repairs.LOL....So you have a problem with me buying new vehicles?
So you're jealous.
Perhaps if you planned ahead you'd be able to do the same.
Unless I'm wrong, the Rubicon is a lot more than twelve miles long.
just looked it up and it says its 22 miles long,,Nope. Twelve miles long is exactly what it is. I live about 20 miles from the end point, and have done it front to back, and back to front.
That includes the paved sections into the Tahoe basin. And the paved section up to the parking lot and the first obstacle which is appropriately called "Gatekeeper".
This is a better description of the trail for you.