Rittenhouse ordered to stand trial

[Shelzin]

It is on video. Which you obviously never watched. Much like your complete humiliation in the Sandmann incident. Self defense by protecting himself from your sides child molesters and domestic violence perpetrators. I suggest you STFU as you have now embarrassed yourself yet again. You are bitch slapped as usual.

There were people who ACTUALLY didn't watch the Sandmann video? And supported the dumb ass drum beater? Oh... Pogo... Say it ain't so!

 

[Faun]

No liberalism involved just one of jurisprudence and the evidence.

Homosexual convicts raping a 17 year old boy is a liberal wet dream not supported by law

Suuure it is, uh-huh.

• Andrew Buhr
  Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

• Bobby Stumbo
  Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.

• Cary Lee Cramer
  A South Texas jury has found a 44-year-old REPUBLICAN political consultant guilty of four counts involving the sexual molestation of children. The 44-year-old CARY LEE CRAMER was convicted of one count of aggravated sexual assault of a child, two of indecency with a child by contact and one of indecency with a child by exposure. Cramer, who now lives in Tucson, Ariz., gained national attention during the 2000 presidential election. His McAllen company created a TV ad accusing the Clinton-Gore administration of giving away nuclear technology to China in exchange for campaign contributions. Cramer faces a maximum of 149 years in prison for the four felony charges.

• Dennis Hastert
  Republican House Speaker Dennis Hastert was arrested and pleaded guilty last year to structuring money transactions to evade reporting where he took massive amounts of funds to cover up sex crimes with underage boys. It has since been discovered that he molested and raped several young boys while employed as a wrestling coach and teacher in Yorkville, Illinois.

• Donald Rumsfeld
  Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency.

• Edward Schrock
  Republican Congressman Edward Schrock, two-term republican congressman, with a 92% approval rating from the Christian Coalition. Cosponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment, consistently opposed gay rights. Married, with wife and kids. Withdrew his candidacy for a third term after tapes of him soliciting for gay sex were circulated.

• Harvey Pitt
  Harvey Pitt, SEC Chief under George W. Bush until he was forced to resign in 2002. Worked for New Frontier Media, a firm which distributed teen sex videos.

• Howard L. Brooks
  Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

• Howard Scott Heldreth
  Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

• Jack Burkmana
  Republican Jack Burkmana reportedly has been caught allegedly offering to pay $1,000 for sex with two homosexuals ... Republican operative Jack Burkmana former lobbyist for "Family Research Council" The council and Mr. Burkmana support and donate money to the Bush administration and the GOP.

• Jerry Sandusky
  Republican Jerry Sandusky was arrested and charged with 52 counts of sexual abuse of young boys over a 15-year period from 1994 to 2009. On June 22, 2012, Sandusky was found guilty on 45 of the 48 remaining charges and was sentenced on October 9, 2012 to 30 to 60 years in prison.

• Otis O'Neal Horsley
  Republican Otis O'Neal Horsley (born 1944) is an American political figure of the far REPUBLICAN right. He is the author of christiangallery.com, a website devoted to his advocacy of militant anti-abortion, secessionist, and anti-gay views. Last night, May 09, 2005, anti-abortion extremist Neal Horsley was a guest on The Alan Colmes Show, a FOX News radio program.

• Jim West
  Republican Mayor Jim West championed an anti-gay agenda, but was later found to be gay himself.

• John R. Curtain
  Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.

• John Hathaway
  Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

• John Paulk
  John Paulk, lied about prowling for gay sex while running a fundamentalist group to cure gays.

• John Scmitz
  Republican John Scmitz, right-wing republican congressman, who had had his committee chairship taken away from him in the California State Senate after issuing a press release attacking Jews, feminists and gays. Forced out of office in 1982 for having an adulterous affair and fathering two children out of wedlock with one of his students. He was caught because his baby was admitted to hospital for having hair tied so tightly around his penis that it was almost severed. His daughter, Mary Kay LeTourneau, was convicted of having an adulterous affair with one of her students, and giving birth to two of his children.

• Keola Childs
  Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

• Larry Craig
  Republican Senator, Larry Craig, was arrested and pled guilty for soliciting sex from a male in a Minnessota airport bathroom. Craig did not seek reelection.

• Lawrence E. King
  Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

• Mark A. Grethen
  Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

• Mark Foley
  Republican congressman, Mark Foley, resigned after getting caught sexting an underaged male page.

• Mark Seidensticker
  Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.

• Matthew Glavin
  Republican activist Matthew Glavin, who preached family values, was caught masturbating in public and fondling an undercover park ranger.

• Merrill Robert Barter
  Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

• Neal Horsley
  Republican anti-abortion activist Neal Horsley admitted to having sex with a mule.

• Nicholas Morency
  Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

• Parker J. Bena
  Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

• Robert Bauman
  Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

• Robin Vanderwall
  Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

• Ronald C. Kline
  Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.

• Russell Harding
  Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.

• Stephen White
  Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

• Tom Adams
  Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.

• William Gillin
• Paul Skiles
  A former college administrator, a former Christian bookstore owner and a former policeman admitted to sexual misconduct with a teenage boy. They were among five men arrested in March as part of an ongoing investigation of men who meet boys through Internet chat rooms, authorities said.William Gillin, 53, republican and Paul Skiles, 63, republican, both of Johnstown, pleaded guilty yesterday to corruption of minors, indecent assault and unlawful communications with minors. Mr. Gillin is the former alumni relations director at the University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown. Mr. Skiles owned the now-closed B&K Christian Bookstore in Richland Township. Some of the incidents occurred when the boy was 16, prosecutors said. He is now 17.

 

[Faun]

He "shouldn't go to jail" huh.
Soooooo any gun nut who feels the urge can just walk around blowing people away on your planet?

No... And That's not what he did. So... I suggest you educate yourself on the topic.

Yeah, no. It's on video. I suggest you follow your own advice.

It is on video. Which you obviously never watched. Much like your complete humiliation in the Sandmann incident. Self defense by protecting himself from your sides child molesters and domestic violence perpetrators. I suggest you STFU as you have now embarrassed yourself yet again. You are bitch slapped as usual.

Yeah, because to conservatives, shooting someone in the back is self-defense.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Looks like Kyle is going to stand trial for his alleged crimes:

Kyle Rittenhouse, teen charged with killings at Jacob Blake protest, ordered to stand trial

Kyle Rittenhouse — the 17-year-old charged with killing two people during protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin, after the shooting of Jacob Blake — will stand trial on charges of felony homicide and other crimes, a court commissioner ruled Thursday.
During a preliminary hearing at Kenosha County Circuit Court, which was held via video link, commissioner Loren Keating ruled that there was enough evidence to send Rittenhouse to trial over the Aug. 25 killings of Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, and Anthony Huber, 26.
Rittenhouse also faces charges of possession of a dangerous weapon while under the age of 18 and felony attempted homicide for injuring a third man, Gaige Grosskreutz.
Lawyers for Rittenhouse argued that the teen, who has been praised by right-wing commentators and viewed sympathetically by the Trump administration, had acted in self-defense when he opened fire.
But Keating said those arguments were issues for trial — not a preliminary hearing. The teen’s lawyers also asked Keating to dismiss two charges, including possession of a dangerous weapon, but the commissioner declined, saying that was also an issue for trial.
Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Illinois, was released on $2 million bond last month, money mostly raised by conservatives through a legal defense fund.

And in related news..the 19yo who posed as a straw buyer for Kyle's gun has been charged:

19-year-old charged with illegally supplying gun to Kyle Rittenhouse

The friend of Rittenhouse, 17, purchased the gun later used to allegedly fatally shoot two men in Kenosha, Wisconsin, prosecutors say.

www.nbcnews.com

Charges have been filed against a 19-year-old man who prosecutors allege purchased and supplied the gun used by 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse in the fatal shootings of two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Dominick Black, of Kenosha, faces two felony counts of intentionally giving a dangerous weapon to a minor, causing death, according to a criminal complaint filed in Kenosha County Circuit Court. If he's found guilty, he faces up to 6 years in prison per count.
According to the criminal complaint, Black enlisted the help of Rittenhouse in guarding the Kenosha car dealership Car Source from property damage and looting. The complaint stated Black “volunteered to go out after curfew” and “asked Mr. Rittenhouse to join him.”

In interviews, the owner of Car Source has denied requesting help from either Black or Rittenhouse in protecting his dealership during the protests.

And several posters on this very board have publicly called for Rump to PARDON this piece of shit.

So conservatives clamoring to defend homicidal maniacs now. We live in interesting times.

So you don't believe that children should have the right to defend themselves from groups of rioting Child Molesters?

Interesting thought there.

It will be interesting seeing the criminal rioters who are called in to testify getting grilled anyhow.

Recount the timeline. Rittenhouse shoots and kills two people. Then people assail and tackle Rittenhouse.

That's where you perception begins.

You've got your timeline wrong. Kyle is harassed and attacked by thug number one. He attempts to flee and when cornered and hearing a shot apparently from the crowd, turns and fires at the front of thug number one. Thug number one falls (apparently shot in the back according to reports I have seen). The crowd then turns on Rittenhous who again flees until attacked by thug number two who knocks him down and hits him with a skateboard and is shot. Thug number three then approaches with a drawn handgun and Kyle shoots him in the arm (a very bad idea that endangered crowd members behind thug number three) All three shootings were clearly self-defense unless Kyle committed crimes not shown on the videos. Being a minor, he was in violation of the law for possession of a firearm. That's a Class A Misdemeanor here's the punishment for that: " Class A Misdemeanor. Class A Misdemeanors in Wisconsin are the most serious and are punishable by up to 9 months in jail and/or a $10,000 fine. " If he is convicted of that, he will probably be sentenced to time served and a fine.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Looks like Kyle is going to stand trial for his alleged crimes:

Kyle Rittenhouse, teen charged with killings at Jacob Blake protest, ordered to stand trial

Kyle Rittenhouse — the 17-year-old charged with killing two people during protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin, after the shooting of Jacob Blake — will stand trial on charges of felony homicide and other crimes, a court commissioner ruled Thursday.
During a preliminary hearing at Kenosha County Circuit Court, which was held via video link, commissioner Loren Keating ruled that there was enough evidence to send Rittenhouse to trial over the Aug. 25 killings of Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, and Anthony Huber, 26.
Rittenhouse also faces charges of possession of a dangerous weapon while under the age of 18 and felony attempted homicide for injuring a third man, Gaige Grosskreutz.
Lawyers for Rittenhouse argued that the teen, who has been praised by right-wing commentators and viewed sympathetically by the Trump administration, had acted in self-defense when he opened fire.
But Keating said those arguments were issues for trial — not a preliminary hearing. The teen’s lawyers also asked Keating to dismiss two charges, including possession of a dangerous weapon, but the commissioner declined, saying that was also an issue for trial.
Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Illinois, was released on $2 million bond last month, money mostly raised by conservatives through a legal defense fund.

And in related news..the 19yo who posed as a straw buyer for Kyle's gun has been charged:

19-year-old charged with illegally supplying gun to Kyle Rittenhouse

The friend of Rittenhouse, 17, purchased the gun later used to allegedly fatally shoot two men in Kenosha, Wisconsin, prosecutors say.

www.nbcnews.com

Charges have been filed against a 19-year-old man who prosecutors allege purchased and supplied the gun used by 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse in the fatal shootings of two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Dominick Black, of Kenosha, faces two felony counts of intentionally giving a dangerous weapon to a minor, causing death, according to a criminal complaint filed in Kenosha County Circuit Court. If he's found guilty, he faces up to 6 years in prison per count.
According to the criminal complaint, Black enlisted the help of Rittenhouse in guarding the Kenosha car dealership Car Source from property damage and looting. The complaint stated Black “volunteered to go out after curfew” and “asked Mr. Rittenhouse to join him.”

In interviews, the owner of Car Source has denied requesting help from either Black or Rittenhouse in protecting his dealership during the protests.

The straw buyer is as guilty because of knowing they bought a firearm for a minor...

You would rather that the kid had been unarmed when he was attacked by the mob? Would you prefer that he had been the one killed, and if so, why?

I believe what he would prefer is for people who don't agree with him politically to huddle in their houses, terrified, while his comrades roam the streets like the band of vicious, filthy savages that they are.

Is that what you believe then you are just not a moron but a fucking lunatic of a moron!

First off it is against the law to Straw Purchase for a minor or anyone that is not allow to own a firearm but you are ignorant on this fact and will excuse the friend for his illegal action.

It was illegal for Kyle to have that firearm but again you will ignore this and claim I am with the rioters while admitting what Kyle and his friend did with the purchase of the firearm will cost them...

Notice I have yet to really comment on his shooting because I could give a flying fuck those worthless fucks are dead!

Did the friend purchase the gun for Kyle, or did he loan out a gun he already owned to a friend. Big difference legally and easily proven unless the gun was purchased very shortly before the incident.

 

[Pogo]

Looks like Kyle is going to stand trial for his alleged crimes:

Kyle Rittenhouse, teen charged with killings at Jacob Blake protest, ordered to stand trial

Kyle Rittenhouse — the 17-year-old charged with killing two people during protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin, after the shooting of Jacob Blake — will stand trial on charges of felony homicide and other crimes, a court commissioner ruled Thursday.
During a preliminary hearing at Kenosha County Circuit Court, which was held via video link, commissioner Loren Keating ruled that there was enough evidence to send Rittenhouse to trial over the Aug. 25 killings of Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, and Anthony Huber, 26.
Rittenhouse also faces charges of possession of a dangerous weapon while under the age of 18 and felony attempted homicide for injuring a third man, Gaige Grosskreutz.
Lawyers for Rittenhouse argued that the teen, who has been praised by right-wing commentators and viewed sympathetically by the Trump administration, had acted in self-defense when he opened fire.
But Keating said those arguments were issues for trial — not a preliminary hearing. The teen’s lawyers also asked Keating to dismiss two charges, including possession of a dangerous weapon, but the commissioner declined, saying that was also an issue for trial.
Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Illinois, was released on $2 million bond last month, money mostly raised by conservatives through a legal defense fund.

And in related news..the 19yo who posed as a straw buyer for Kyle's gun has been charged:

19-year-old charged with illegally supplying gun to Kyle Rittenhouse

The friend of Rittenhouse, 17, purchased the gun later used to allegedly fatally shoot two men in Kenosha, Wisconsin, prosecutors say.

www.nbcnews.com

Charges have been filed against a 19-year-old man who prosecutors allege purchased and supplied the gun used by 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse in the fatal shootings of two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Dominick Black, of Kenosha, faces two felony counts of intentionally giving a dangerous weapon to a minor, causing death, according to a criminal complaint filed in Kenosha County Circuit Court. If he's found guilty, he faces up to 6 years in prison per count.
According to the criminal complaint, Black enlisted the help of Rittenhouse in guarding the Kenosha car dealership Car Source from property damage and looting. The complaint stated Black “volunteered to go out after curfew” and “asked Mr. Rittenhouse to join him.”

In interviews, the owner of Car Source has denied requesting help from either Black or Rittenhouse in protecting his dealership during the protests.

And several posters on this very board have publicly called for Rump to PARDON this piece of shit.

So conservatives clamoring to defend homicidal maniacs now. We live in interesting times.

Im not sure why you would be so hostile towards him. Sure he shouldnt have had a gun and he was young and out of his depth, but the videos speak for themselves. He was being chased down and attacked by some really bad guys with really bad intentions. The first dude threw a friggin molotov cocktail at him before he ever fired a shot. I mean, COME ON! He ran! He tried extremely hard to get away from that deranged Molotov cocktail throwing attacker. You see it in the video. He also ran from the next set of gun wielding attackers as hard as he could, but they caught him. What was he supposed to do?

He chose to run every single time until the absolute last second. He didnt want to shoot anyone, but they left him no choice. If we dont have a right to self defense, what kind of country do we live in?

Uhh...no..the victim threw a plastic bag..and missed. No Molotov cocktail. His chasers pulled their guns..at least one of them, anyway because Kyle had his gun out, his finger on the trigger. Had Kyle been at home..where he should have been....nothing would have happened. He put himself in that dangerous situation...poured gasoline on the fire..ran when it got too crazy--and opened fire blindly.

Listen to your hysterical hyperbole.
- “he should have been home”. Why is that? He wasn’t breaking the law, he wasn’t rioting. Shouldnt the fucking rioters have been home?? But instead you focus on the person attacked as in the wrong, who should have “been home”.
- “poured gasoline on the situation”.
How so, His mere presence? He was there, and because of that “shoot me nigga” the manlet pedo attacked him.... and you blame Kyle for pouring gas on the situation?
- “ran when it got to crazy”.
He ran from people attacking him. Kinda puts a little dent in your “blood thirsty killer looming for trouble” narrative.
- “opened fire blindly”. He shot pedo manlet who was chasing him and cornered him. Shot him and only him with multiple rounds, 100% accuracy. Was pursued and knocked to the ground, then hit with a skateboard. Fired from the ground and hit Tony hawk, pro skater, again 100% accuracy. Then he literally “disarmed” the 3rd scumbag who was coming in for the kill with a gun in his hand. 1 shot, 1 hit. Again 100% accuracy. He didn’t mag dump into this guy, even though he could have. He didn’t turn around and plug the guy who initially had chased him and kicked him to he ground. He not only didn’t shoot anyone who wasn’t a direct threat, but he didn’t miss a single round.
Yet your dumb ass claims “opened fire blindly”????

Not only are many of your statements blatant exaggerations, but many are clearly demonstrated on video as inaccurate.
Did you even watch any of the footage??? I get the people who argue the legality of him possessing a weapon. I believe it was colfax (spelling) who has brough that up a few times previously. That’s a valid argument. But some of you say shit which is blatantly untrue. I swear to God, some of you people are either completely warped in your perspective, or you haven’t actually seen the videos.meow do you possibly make the claims you do when reality is on film and clearly contradicts your statements?
Are you stupid? Warped? Liars? What is it?

Sounds like some serious "blame the victim" shit to me (I blessedly can't see Pogo's posts, so I can only guess from your responses). "If she'd stayed home that night, she wouldn't have been there to be raped. If she hadn't worn a short skirt . . ."

You're hiding because over a YEAR ago I challenged you to find any example of me using Composition Fallacies, and you can't do it. So rather than admit you can't do it and were squawking out of your ass when you accused me of it ---- you ran away. And you're still hiding.

So no, your inane anal-ysis of what I wrote that you don't dare read, is way off. The price of ignorance. Or in your case, arrognance.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Looks like Kyle is going to stand trial for his alleged crimes:

Kyle Rittenhouse, teen charged with killings at Jacob Blake protest, ordered to stand trial

Kyle Rittenhouse — the 17-year-old charged with killing two people during protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin, after the shooting of Jacob Blake — will stand trial on charges of felony homicide and other crimes, a court commissioner ruled Thursday.
During a preliminary hearing at Kenosha County Circuit Court, which was held via video link, commissioner Loren Keating ruled that there was enough evidence to send Rittenhouse to trial over the Aug. 25 killings of Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, and Anthony Huber, 26.
Rittenhouse also faces charges of possession of a dangerous weapon while under the age of 18 and felony attempted homicide for injuring a third man, Gaige Grosskreutz.
Lawyers for Rittenhouse argued that the teen, who has been praised by right-wing commentators and viewed sympathetically by the Trump administration, had acted in self-defense when he opened fire.
But Keating said those arguments were issues for trial — not a preliminary hearing. The teen’s lawyers also asked Keating to dismiss two charges, including possession of a dangerous weapon, but the commissioner declined, saying that was also an issue for trial.
Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Illinois, was released on $2 million bond last month, money mostly raised by conservatives through a legal defense fund.

And in related news..the 19yo who posed as a straw buyer for Kyle's gun has been charged:

19-year-old charged with illegally supplying gun to Kyle Rittenhouse

The friend of Rittenhouse, 17, purchased the gun later used to allegedly fatally shoot two men in Kenosha, Wisconsin, prosecutors say.

www.nbcnews.com

Charges have been filed against a 19-year-old man who prosecutors allege purchased and supplied the gun used by 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse in the fatal shootings of two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Dominick Black, of Kenosha, faces two felony counts of intentionally giving a dangerous weapon to a minor, causing death, according to a criminal complaint filed in Kenosha County Circuit Court. If he's found guilty, he faces up to 6 years in prison per count.
According to the criminal complaint, Black enlisted the help of Rittenhouse in guarding the Kenosha car dealership Car Source from property damage and looting. The complaint stated Black “volunteered to go out after curfew” and “asked Mr. Rittenhouse to join him.”

In interviews, the owner of Car Source has denied requesting help from either Black or Rittenhouse in protecting his dealership during the protests.

The straw buyer is as guilty because of knowing they bought a firearm for a minor...

You would rather that the kid had been unarmed when he was attacked by the mob? Would you prefer that he had been the one killed, and if so, why?

I believe what he would prefer is for people who don't agree with him politically to huddle in their houses, terrified, while his comrades roam the streets like the band of vicious, filthy savages that they are.

Is that what you believe then you are just not a moron but a fucking lunatic of a moron!

First off it is against the law to Straw Purchase for a minor or anyone that is not allow to own a firearm but you are ignorant on this fact and will excuse the friend for his illegal action.

It was illegal for Kyle to have that firearm but again you will ignore this and claim I am with the rioters while admitting what Kyle and his friend did with the purchase of the firearm will cost them...

Notice I have yet to really comment on his shooting because I could give a flying fuck those worthless fucks are dead!

Did the friend purchase the gun for Kyle, or did he loan out a gun he already owned to a friend. Big difference legally and easily proven unless the gun was purchased very shortly before the incident.

The charge is straw purchase which mean it was purchased for Kyle because he was underage to obtain the firearm legally.

Another poster did a thread on this defending the purchase, so the friend is in trouble for the straw purchase...

19-year-old charged with buying rifle for Kyle Rittenhouse used in Kenosha unrest

The mystery of how an assault rifle ended up in the hands of a suburban Chicago teenager during the Kenosha riot has been solved, according to police in Wisconsin, who have filed gun charges in the case that resulted in two murders.

abc7chicago.com

 

[initforme]

What is bad about him facing trial? Big whoop. Bring out the evidence let a jury decide.

 

[Nosmo King]

Recount the timeline. Rittenhouse shoots and kills two people. Then people assail and tackle Rittenhouse.

That's where you perception begins.

Are you on some sort of drugs?

The people who tackled R were shouting "He shot a guy!"

 

[Anathema]

Did the friend purchase the gun for Kyle, or did he loan out a gun he already owned to a friend. Big difference legally and easily proven unless the gun was purchased very shortly before the incident.

Either way, he provided a firearm and ammunition to an individual who was too young to legally possess them. They’re both crimes.

 

[Godboy]

Did the friend purchase the gun for Kyle, or did he loan out a gun he already owned to a friend. Big difference legally and easily proven unless the gun was purchased very shortly before the incident.

Either way, he provided a firearm and ammunition to an individual who was too young to legally possess them. They’re both crimes.

Those arent huge crimes.

 

[Anathema]

Those arent huge crimes.

They’re felonies... one Federal and one State.

 

[22lcidw]

No liberalism involved just one of jurisprudence and the evidence.

Homosexual convicts raping a 17 year old boy is a liberal wet dream not supported by law

Suuure it is, uh-huh.

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• Dennis Hastert
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  Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
• Larry Craig
  Republican Senator, Larry Craig, was arrested and pled guilty for soliciting sex from a male in a Minnessota airport bathroom. Craig did not seek reelection.
• Lawrence E. King
  Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
• Mark A. Grethen
  Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
• Mark Foley
  Republican congressman, Mark Foley, resigned after getting caught sexting an underaged male page.
• Mark Seidensticker
  Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
• Matthew Glavin
  Republican activist Matthew Glavin, who preached family values, was caught masturbating in public and fondling an undercover park ranger.
• Merrill Robert Barter
  Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
• Neal Horsley
  Republican anti-abortion activist Neal Horsley admitted to having sex with a mule.
• Nicholas Morency
  Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
• Parker J. Bena
  Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
• Robert Bauman
  Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
• Robin Vanderwall
  Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
• Ronald C. Kline
  Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.
• Russell Harding
  Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
• Stephen White
  Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
• Tom Adams
  Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.
• William Gillin
• Paul Skiles
  A former college administrator, a former Christian bookstore owner and a former policeman admitted to sexual misconduct with a teenage boy. They were among five men arrested in March as part of an ongoing investigation of men who meet boys through Internet chat rooms, authorities said.William Gillin, 53, republican and Paul Skiles, 63, republican, both of Johnstown, pleaded guilty yesterday to corruption of minors, indecent assault and unlawful communications with minors. Mr. Gillin is the former alumni relations director at the University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown. Mr. Skiles owned the now-closed B&K Christian Bookstore in Richland Township. Some of the incidents occurred when the boy was 16, prosecutors said. He is now 17.

You do not have to go into a list of people. The real issue is that the Progs are hundreds of times more likely to do the same and you have pushed behavior like this.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Did the friend purchase the gun for Kyle, or did he loan out a gun he already owned to a friend. Big difference legally and easily proven unless the gun was purchased very shortly before the incident.

Either way, he provided a firearm and ammunition to an individual who was too young to legally possess them. They’re both crimes.

Well, that depends on a rather convoluted law. It appears very much as though it was not illegal for Kyle to have the gun. I guess we'll be letting the court decide that.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Did the friend purchase the gun for Kyle, or did he loan out a gun he already owned to a friend. Big difference legally and easily proven unless the gun was purchased very shortly before the incident.

Either way, he provided a firearm and ammunition to an individual who was too young to legally possess them. They’re both crimes.

Those arent huge crimes.

Except that the charge is providing the ammo and firearm..that resulted in the death of two people..hence two counts..they each carry up to 6 years..so I'd call that serious...also..if he or his family have money..the civil judgement will be huge!

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Looks like Kyle is going to stand trial for his alleged crimes:

Kyle Rittenhouse, teen charged with killings at Jacob Blake protest, ordered to stand trial

Kyle Rittenhouse — the 17-year-old charged with killing two people during protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin, after the shooting of Jacob Blake — will stand trial on charges of felony homicide and other crimes, a court commissioner ruled Thursday.
During a preliminary hearing at Kenosha County Circuit Court, which was held via video link, commissioner Loren Keating ruled that there was enough evidence to send Rittenhouse to trial over the Aug. 25 killings of Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, and Anthony Huber, 26.
Rittenhouse also faces charges of possession of a dangerous weapon while under the age of 18 and felony attempted homicide for injuring a third man, Gaige Grosskreutz.
Lawyers for Rittenhouse argued that the teen, who has been praised by right-wing commentators and viewed sympathetically by the Trump administration, had acted in self-defense when he opened fire.
But Keating said those arguments were issues for trial — not a preliminary hearing. The teen’s lawyers also asked Keating to dismiss two charges, including possession of a dangerous weapon, but the commissioner declined, saying that was also an issue for trial.
Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Illinois, was released on $2 million bond last month, money mostly raised by conservatives through a legal defense fund.

And in related news..the 19yo who posed as a straw buyer for Kyle's gun has been charged:

19-year-old charged with illegally supplying gun to Kyle Rittenhouse

The friend of Rittenhouse, 17, purchased the gun later used to allegedly fatally shoot two men in Kenosha, Wisconsin, prosecutors say.

www.nbcnews.com

Charges have been filed against a 19-year-old man who prosecutors allege purchased and supplied the gun used by 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse in the fatal shootings of two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Dominick Black, of Kenosha, faces two felony counts of intentionally giving a dangerous weapon to a minor, causing death, according to a criminal complaint filed in Kenosha County Circuit Court. If he's found guilty, he faces up to 6 years in prison per count.
According to the criminal complaint, Black enlisted the help of Rittenhouse in guarding the Kenosha car dealership Car Source from property damage and looting. The complaint stated Black “volunteered to go out after curfew” and “asked Mr. Rittenhouse to join him.”

In interviews, the owner of Car Source has denied requesting help from either Black or Rittenhouse in protecting his dealership during the protests.

The straw buyer is as guilty because of knowing they bought a firearm for a minor...

You would rather that the kid had been unarmed when he was attacked by the mob? Would you prefer that he had been the one killed, and if so, why?

I believe what he would prefer is for people who don't agree with him politically to huddle in their houses, terrified, while his comrades roam the streets like the band of vicious, filthy savages that they are.

Is that what you believe then you are just not a moron but a fucking lunatic of a moron!

First off it is against the law to Straw Purchase for a minor or anyone that is not allow to own a firearm but you are ignorant on this fact and will excuse the friend for his illegal action.

It was illegal for Kyle to have that firearm but again you will ignore this and claim I am with the rioters while admitting what Kyle and his friend did with the purchase of the firearm will cost them...

Notice I have yet to really comment on his shooting because I could give a flying fuck those worthless fucks are dead!

Did the friend purchase the gun for Kyle, or did he loan out a gun he already owned to a friend. Big difference legally and easily proven unless the gun was purchased very shortly before the incident.

The charge is straw purchase which mean it was purchased for Kyle because he was underage to obtain the firearm legally.

Another poster did a thread on this defending the purchase, so the friend is in trouble for the straw purchase...

19-year-old charged with buying rifle for Kyle Rittenhouse used in Kenosha unrest

The mystery of how an assault rifle ended up in the hands of a suburban Chicago teenager during the Kenosha riot has been solved, according to police in Wisconsin, who have filed gun charges in the case that resulted in two murders.

abc7chicago.com

I don't if anyone has considered this angle...the friend--is facing some time..thus the DA has leverage...this friend is sure to testify at Kyle's trial...what he says can be vitally important to Kyle's case. If he testifies that Kyle was just aching to kill someone...bragged about wanting to do it...used any racial slurs in relation to wanting to kill, etc.---it would go straight to the DA's case...that Kyle set up the scenario that allowed him to legally murder.......that would be very bad for Kyle.

True or not...if this guy wants a get out of prison free card.....he probably can have one.

 

[MaryL]

Mr. Rittenhouse didn't go to Kenosha to "participate" in a riot, but to defend the people of Kenosha that were under fire. In reality, those who Rittenhouse clipped were the ones who went to the Cheesehead State for the purposes of arson, rape and looting. The one man who was shot had a record a mile long of Molestation.

Actually, the three people he shot were Wisconsin residents of nearby towns. The man he shot dead was himself abused as a child and instead of getting treatment, he got jail time. This is another way our system is fucked up, we treat mental illness as a crime.

Rittenhouse was a sad-ass cop wannabe who though, "I can go up there and shoot people", which he totally ended up doing.

Police officers merely follow the instructions given to them to enforce the law. Eric Garner got his ass kicked, arrest and unfortunately expired, example given, because DeBlasio didn't like the idea of untaxed ciggies being sold in his realm. If this wasn't the priority given to the cops, they would have just as soon spent the afternoon flirting with donut waitresses at the local Krispy Fucking Kreme.

That's kind of a dumb example. The cops used excessive force to enforce a law he wasn't even breaking that day. He certainly didn't tell them to use an illegal choke hold.

Looks like Kyle is going to stand trial for his alleged crimes:

Kyle Rittenhouse, teen charged with killings at Jacob Blake protest, ordered to stand trial

Kyle Rittenhouse — the 17-year-old charged with killing two people during protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin, after the shooting of Jacob Blake — will stand trial on charges of felony homicide and other crimes, a court commissioner ruled Thursday.
During a preliminary hearing at Kenosha County Circuit Court, which was held via video link, commissioner Loren Keating ruled that there was enough evidence to send Rittenhouse to trial over the Aug. 25 killings of Joseph Rosenbaum, 36, and Anthony Huber, 26.
Rittenhouse also faces charges of possession of a dangerous weapon while under the age of 18 and felony attempted homicide for injuring a third man, Gaige Grosskreutz.
Lawyers for Rittenhouse argued that the teen, who has been praised by right-wing commentators and viewed sympathetically by the Trump administration, had acted in self-defense when he opened fire.
But Keating said those arguments were issues for trial — not a preliminary hearing. The teen’s lawyers also asked Keating to dismiss two charges, including possession of a dangerous weapon, but the commissioner declined, saying that was also an issue for trial.
Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Illinois, was released on $2 million bond last month, money mostly raised by conservatives through a legal defense fund.

And in related news..the 19yo who posed as a straw buyer for Kyle's gun has been charged:

19-year-old charged with illegally supplying gun to Kyle Rittenhouse

The friend of Rittenhouse, 17, purchased the gun later used to allegedly fatally shoot two men in Kenosha, Wisconsin, prosecutors say.

www.nbcnews.com

Charges have been filed against a 19-year-old man who prosecutors allege purchased and supplied the gun used by 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse in the fatal shootings of two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
Dominick Black, of Kenosha, faces two felony counts of intentionally giving a dangerous weapon to a minor, causing death, according to a criminal complaint filed in Kenosha County Circuit Court. If he's found guilty, he faces up to 6 years in prison per count.
According to the criminal complaint, Black enlisted the help of Rittenhouse in guarding the Kenosha car dealership Car Source from property damage and looting. The complaint stated Black “volunteered to go out after curfew” and “asked Mr. Rittenhouse to join him.”

In interviews, the owner of Car Source has denied requesting help from either Black or Rittenhouse in protecting his dealership during the protests.

The straw buyer is as guilty because of knowing they bought a firearm for a minor...

You would rather that the kid had been unarmed when he was attacked by the mob? Would you prefer that he had been the one killed, and if so, why?

I believe what he would prefer is for people who don't agree with him politically to huddle in their houses, terrified, while his comrades roam the streets like the band of vicious, filthy savages that they are.

Is that what you believe then you are just not a moron but a fucking lunatic of a moron!

First off it is against the law to Straw Purchase for a minor or anyone that is not allow to own a firearm but you are ignorant on this fact and will excuse the friend for his illegal action.

It was illegal for Kyle to have that firearm but again you will ignore this and claim I am with the rioters while admitting what Kyle and his friend did with the purchase of the firearm will cost them...

Notice I have yet to really comment on his shooting because I could give a flying fuck those worthless fucks are dead!

Did the friend purchase the gun for Kyle, or did he loan out a gun he already owned to a friend. Big difference legally and easily proven unless the gun was purchased very shortly before the incident.

The charge is straw purchase which mean it was purchased for Kyle because he was underage to obtain the firearm legally.

Another poster did a thread on this defending the purchase, so the friend is in trouble for the straw purchase...

19-year-old charged with buying rifle for Kyle Rittenhouse used in Kenosha unrest

The mystery of how an assault rifle ended up in the hands of a suburban Chicago teenager during the Kenosha riot has been solved, according to police in Wisconsin, who have filed gun charges in the case that resulted in two murders.

abc7chicago.com

I don't if anyone has considered this angle...the friend--is facing some time..thus the DA has leverage...this friend is sure to testify at Kyle's trial...what he says can be vitally important to Kyle's case. If he testifies that Kyle was just aching to kill someone...bragged about wanting to do it...used any racial slurs in relation to wanting to kill, etc.---it would go straight to the DA's case...that Kyle set up the scenario that allowed him to legally murder.......that would be very bad for Kyle.

True or not...if this guy wants a get out of prison free card.....he probably can have one.

And meanwhile back at the ranch, democrats wont prosecute rioters or bail them out of jail. I'm getting mixed messages when it comes to justice here.

 

[Anathema]

Well, that depends on a rather convoluted law. It appears very much as though it was not illegal for Kyle to have the gun. I guess we'll be letting the court decide that.

I would find it very surprising that the State of Wisconsin is the only State I have ever seen to allow a minor to possess a firearm and/or ammunition unless under the direct supervision and oversight of an adult guardian.

 

[Polishprince]

And meanwhile back at the ranch, democrats wont prosecute rioters or bail them out of jail. I'm getting mixed messages when it comes to justice here.

What I like about the idea of a trial is the fact that the Rioters will have to go into court and actually testify and admit what they were up to.

Sure, liberal prosecutors will let them slide as far as Arson and Robbery and Assault.

But they will be publicly outed, subject to civil liability for their torts, and hopefully, their lives will be ruined.

And at the end of the day, Mr. Rittenhouse will still be acquitted in a case of jury nullification.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Well, that depends on a rather convoluted law. It appears very much as though it was not illegal for Kyle to have the gun. I guess we'll be letting the court decide that.

I would find it very surprising that the State of Wisconsin is the only State I have ever seen to allow a minor to possess a firearm and/or ammunition unless under the direct supervision and oversight of an adult guardian.

Surprise!

948.60  Possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18.

(2) 
(a) Any person under 18 years of age who possesses or goes armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor.
(b) Except as provided in par. (c), any person who intentionally sells, loans or gives a dangerous weapon to a person under 18 years of age is guilty of a Class I felony.
(c) Whoever violates par. (b) is guilty of a Class H felony if the person under 18 years of age under par. (b) discharges the firearm and the discharge causes death to himself, herself or another.

(3) 
(a) This section does not apply to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a dangerous weapon when the dangerous weapon is being used in target practice under the supervision of an adult or in a course of instruction in the traditional and proper use of the dangerous weapon under the supervision of an adult. This section does not apply to an adult who transfers a dangerous weapon to a person under 18 years of age for use only in target practice under the adult's supervision or in a course of instruction in the traditional and proper use of the dangerous weapon under the adult's supervision.
(b) This section does not apply to a person under 18 years of age who is a member of the armed forces or national guard and who possesses or is armed with a dangerous weapon in the line of duty. This section does not apply to an adult who is a member of the armed forces or national guard and who transfers a dangerous weapon to a person under 18 years of age in the line of duty.
(c) This section applies only to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a rifle or a shotgun if the person is in violation of s. 941.28 or is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593. This section applies only to an adult who transfers a firearm to a person under 18 years of age if the person under 18 years of age is not in compliance with ss. 29.304 and 29.593 or to an adult who is in violation of s. 941.28.

Wisconsin Legislature: 948.60

docs.legis.wisconsin.gov