Rioters storm AZ Capitol... Hold lawmakers 'hostage'...

[miketx]

You might wanna re-read my post. J6 was all about throwing out an elected official (in this case Biden), and replacing them with their own person (Trump). Face it, Trump lost the election, there have been over 2 years of investigations and they all still say that Biden is president because he was elected according to the laws of this country, no matter how much you wish it was not true.

BTW.................can you explain why the J6 protesters (actually insurrectionists) wanted to hang Pence?

Pence was black?

 

[schmidlap]

Hmmmm......this is going to be really interesting to watch play out for the next 10 minutes.

Yet another thrilling episode of

"Oh, yeah!
Well, what about..."​

 

[Billy_Bob]

Sorry, but it wasn't an insurrection, as nobody was there to take over the government, they were just protesting the vote on abortion. If they had said that they wanted to throw out the elected officials and replace them (like they did on Jan 6th), THEN it would have been an insurrection. People need to actually learn what words really mean before throwing them around in a hyperbolic manner, politicians as well as the general public. And no, no politicians in AZ were taken hostage as none of the protesters took any of them because the police had the place surrounded, they were in protective custody, not hostages.

So now occupying a building and holding law makers is not an act of insurrection? WTF are you smoking..??

 

[sparky]

Those "far-right terrorists" look to have had a large portion of far-left and AntiFa fifth columnists mixed in.

you forgot the all our plain clothes 'letter dept' members....

Abortion is a medical procedure best left between her doctor and the woman

so what's to keep da gub'mit from monitoring , as well as dictating any 'medical procedure' ???

~S~

 

[Stryder50]

you forgot the all our plain clothes 'letter dept' members....

so what's to keep da gub'mit from monitoring , as well as dictating any 'medical procedure' ???

~S~

Perhaps, but then there is implication I wasn't ready to go into yet.
That being probable collusion with those of "our plain clothes 'letter dept' members...." and the subversive, seditious and treasonous parts of BLM, AntiFa, and the political Left in general.

The "Administrative State" is a.k.a. the Deep State and a facet of the Elitist-Leftist elements that have been working an internal coup for past several decades on our nation.

The Origin and Operation of the US Administrative State​

The Origin and Operation of the US Administrative State ⋆ Brownstone Institute

The emerging economic crisis is going to unleash the administrative state as never before. Genuine change is still a very long time away.

brownstone.org

 

[Stryder50]

That would create a conflict for people who cannot separate their public lives from their personal lives. Fortunately Biden is above that.

Bullshit!
Biden's career has been spent employing graft and influence of his "public life"(employment) to amass a personal fortune far in advance of what could be possible from guv'mint salary alone.

Just one of many failures and crimes of this career bottom feeder and traitor.

 

[Stryder50]

Trump fooled a lot of people I guess you were one of. And nothing but conflict strife and bitter division all started with trump. He consolidated The crazies I made them a bigger threat than they already were.

Guess you weren't around, or conscious of events from 1968 onward when the Left/Democrats were the real starters of "conflict strife and bitter division" which has been their political MO ever since.

 

[bodecea]

 Arizona Senator Kelly Townsend said abortion protesters are holding her and other lawmakers "hostage" inside the Capitol building in Phoenix.

"We are currently there being held hostage inside the Senate building due to members of the public trying to breach our security," Townsend tweeted Friday night. "We smell teargas and the children of one of the members are in the office sobbing with fear."

Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade in landmark opinion

The Supreme Court on Friday overturned Roe v. Wade, effectively ending recognition of a constitutional right to abortion and giving individual states the power to allow, limit, or ban the practice altogether.

www.foxnews.com

What's wrong with tourists?

 

[Stryder50]

trump lives in a fantasy world too. If you think that's good company, should be pleased. If I had to be in a company of criminals, I'd choose simple, regular ones, not psychotic ones like trump.

"If I had to be in a company of criminals, I'd choose simple, regular ones"; Like Biden, Obama and Clintons, whom you and other Leftist Seditionists support and enable.

 

[bodecea]

Yea, because police did not open the doors for them.

They were just tourists, not breaking windows and attacking police.

 

[theHawk]

They were just tourists, not breaking windows and attacking police.

Because they were dispersed early on.

 

[Stryder50]

The American people aren't the problem, the vast majority supported Roe versus Wade. It's the relentless minority activists pushing this agenda on the American people. If the American people would finally vote on the issue that would end it all for these creeps. Abortion is a medical procedure best left between her doctor and the woman. Once that vote is passed. Then the medical records on all abortions should be sealed so those freaks don't get all excited again.

"Abortion is a medical procedure best left between her doctor and the woman."
And also the unborn child(person~future citizen).
Seems you are not a biological parent. I recall from the few my wife had, the fetus was active and responsive early on in pregnancy, about after the third month or so. Also, that the attitude of the mother can affect the child, especially mental health.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Domestic terrorists.

insurrection callled for by Dems….Schumer, Waters, AOC.

They should all be on trial for conspiracy to committ treason.

Breaching a government building is an insurrection.

 

[ABikerSailor]

So now occupying a building and holding law makers is not an act of insurrection? WTF are you smoking..??

No, sorry, but at the abortion protest they didn't occupy the building, nor did they hold any law makers. The politicians were placed in protective custody so that the protesters didn't get to them and they left afterwards of their own free will. No, it wasn't an insurrection as the abortion protesters never said they wanted to replace the elected officials in the building, no they didn't occupy it (the police kept them out), and no, the lawmakers were not taken hostage. WTF are YOU smoking?

 

[Monk-Eye]

" High Court Traitors "

* Casual Partisan Legal Turpitude *

Domestic terrorists.

insurrection callled for by Dems….Schumer, Waters, AOC.

They should all be on trial for conspiracy to committ treason.

Breaching a government building is an insurrection.

Imagine what one would call debasing citizenship and conveniently lying that " potential life " was not explained by the roe court to usurp the constitution .

 

[Faun]

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That's cool. The Republican-led Arizona state Senate makes it official... January 6th was an insurrection.

 

[Billy_Bob]

No, sorry, but at the abortion protest they didn't occupy the building, nor did they hold any law makers. The politicians were placed in protective custody so that the protesters didn't get to them and they left afterwards of their own free will. No, it wasn't an insurrection as the abortion protesters never said they wanted to replace the elected officials in the building, no they didn't occupy it (the police kept them out), and no, the lawmakers were not taken hostage. WTF are YOU smoking?

SO your answer is "you can't prove they were ours...."

 

[ABikerSailor]

SO your answer is "you can't prove they were ours...."

Your reading comprehension sucks. I didn't say that it was done by one side or the other, I simply responded to what you were saying when you said this:

So now occupying a building and holding law makers is not an act of insurrection? WTF are you smoking..??

Never blamed one side or the other, I simply told you it wasn't an insurrection, the building wasn't occupied and the law makers weren't held hostage. Why wasn't it any of those things? Because they didn't call for the lawmakers to be replaced with people from their side (not an insurrection according to the definition of the word, and it wasn't like what the right tried to do on Jan 6th), they didn't make it into the building (police were able to prevent that), and no lawmakers were held hostage (again, the police prevented that). YOU are the one making idiotic claims, so again, WTF are you smoking?

 

[beagle9]

You know, here's part of what is wrong with this country. The leaders like to use scary words to describe something (usually in a hyperbolic way), and their followers like to echo those scary thoughts to point to how bad the other side is. And, it happens on both sides, both are guilty of it.

As far as this being an "insurrection"? No. They were protesting the abortion law, they weren't trying to overthrow their state government. They were simply saying that they didn't like what their government did, not calling for them to be thrown out and replaced. For all of you who don't know what an insurrection is, here is the definition from the Cambridge English Dictionary (a usually trusted source of the meaning of words)..............

insurrection

1. an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and…

dictionary.cambridge.org

insurrection
noun [ C or U ]

US

/ˌɪn.sɚˈek.ʃən/ UK

/ˌɪn.sərˈek.ʃən/

an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence:
armed insurrection
Synonyms
rebellion
revolt
rising
uprising

If they had called for getting rid of those currently in office and being replaced with other people because of this issue, then yeah, it would have been an insurrection. But, they didn't, they were simply protesting (even though it was a bit towards the violent side as it had to be broken up by police) the way that the vote had gone by elected officials. They didn't call for them to be thrown out and replaced.

Another word that was thrown around was "hostage". No, this wasn't a hostage situation, as the police had surrounded the capitol to keep the politicians safe, and didn't let them out for their own safety, as the protesters might have caused them harm if they had left on their own. Hostages are taken by the people committing the crime, not the police. In this case, I would call it more "protective custody" than a hostage situation.

And yeah, while the crowd DID threaten to break windows and gain entry into the building, they didn't, as the police prevented it. To equate this to what happened on Jan 6th is incorrect. On Jan 6th, things were broken and the building was breached, in this case, it wasn't. On Jan 6th, they were calling for the government to be replaced, in this case, they weren't, they were protesting the abortion vote, not calling for replacing elected officials. None of the protesters took any of the elected officials and held them hostage, police surrounded the building and kept the politicians in protective custody. On Jan 6th, they actually stormed the building and tried to get to the politicians, threatening to hang Pence and others, but the police protected them from being taken. In both cases, nobody was hostage, just in protective custody.

Calling this an insurrection is incorrect and also stupid.

 

[beagle9]

Your reading comprehension sucks. I didn't say that it was done by one side or the other, I simply responded to what you were saying when you said this:



Never blamed one side or the other, I simply told you it wasn't an insurrection, the building wasn't occupied and the law makers weren't held hostage. Why wasn't it any of those things? Because they didn't call for the lawmakers to be replaced with people from their side (not an insurrection according to the definition of the word, and it wasn't like what the right tried to do on Jan 6th), they didn't make it into the building (police were able to prevent that), and no lawmakers were held hostage (again, the police prevented that). YOU are the one making idiotic claims, so again, WTF are you smoking?

If ever a government and/or government building is attacked by protestors who are not in agreement with government dictates, rulings, and/or it's lawmaking, then the very definition of that attack could be considered as an "insurrection" be it by the people yet for the people who disagree on government dictates, corruption, and decision making upon life-changing issue's in a huge way.

Otherwise once it goes violent in order to enforce it's will upon the government (pushing back against it), and basically attempting to overthrow the dictates the government has passed down in it's final ruling on an issue, (upon say a life changing issue when the people disagree with it vehemently), and physically attack the government over the issue because they feel that they have no other option, is when it basically becomes a full on insurrection correct ?

Now it is that only those involved in the violence should be charged with insurrection, because non-violent protestor's are just that non-violent "protestor's".

Once a citizen resorts to violence against government because of it's decision making or rulings, then that person is commiting an "insurrection" against his or her government. Now whether the citizen was right in doing so will be up to a checks and balances government then reviewing it's own self in order to determine if it caused the insurrection or not.

Now the government can take the act as a reason to review itself or it can become authoritarian against the people, and therefore it chooses to leave the people behind because it thinks itself right above and beyond the people that unfortunately it no longer serves, and it thinks itself above and beyond what the people think no matter what the case is any longer.

A government gone rogue will seek to empower itself against the people, therefore becoming a communist style dictatorship that rules the people with a fist of iron. In such a case civil war is probably soon inevitable if the government is wrong about it's stance or stand against it's own citizen's.

As far as the gun's in the hands of the good people goes, well there is no give on that issue because it's all that stands in the way of a government possibly going rogue completely, and then attempting to place the people under it's yoke by force when it didn't have to do such a thing ever if it just stayed out of the area of allowing bad influences to control it due to a weakness being seen within it.

The good people shall hold the lines no matter how many of our citizen's are killed by these demon's (through mass shootings), in which sadly has been loosed upon us by shockingly the alledged government influence all due to it's rhetoric being spoken from the bully pulpit or rather it supporting unpopular agenda's or interest therefore allowing a break down within society to materialize over a long period of time.

The line's on conflicting issue's are no longer seen physically, but they are still there and known spiritually within the citizen's souls.

Hold the lines people. Stay non-violent, and beat them at the voting booths. They want you to become violent, because it's there trap set for you. Be kind to them, and you shall heep Cole's of fire upon their heads. Otherwise they will draw the wrath of God upon themselves by their own actions, and his justice is righteous without waver. Though many weep in pain and in sorrow's upon the earth, know that in the end you shall WIN if keep the Lord our God in your heart's no matter what.

Self defence if being bodily and physically life threatened is accepted. Stand your ground but only in self defence of your person, family, friend's, and for those good folk's who would need your help if their live's are threatened by bad people.

All common sense.

Hold the lines.