Right Wing Whites Do Not Have Any Solutions to Offer Blacks

[alang1216]

Whites need to work on erasing racism in their communities. That's the first step.

Who knew it was so simple.

 

[ThomasSowellsFro]

Not everybody white is these guys. But whites who think like this are the problem. Not just for us, but for the country.

But It's certainly the majority. Even most White liberals are racist. It's genetic.

 

[AMart]

Right Wing Whites Do Not Have Any Solutions to Offer Blacks.​

100%. You are a grown ass adult. Take care of yourself and your family. Surely this is how you were raised, correct? The solution to your problems is you.

 

[The Irish Ram]

The government pulled whites up by their bootstraps.

Bullshit. Hard work and ingenuity pulled whites up by their boot straps. No hand outs. Hand outs were an embarrassment to whites.

While you had been voting for years, my great grandmother held the first vote she fought for in her parlor, years later. When her husband died and left her with 3 little girls, she turned that parlor into a tea room and worked her ass off, and when my grandmother was left with 2 small children to raise during a depression, she turned that business into a million dollar floral business by working her ass off. Not one complaint from either of them about their poor lot in life and they never took a dime of help from anybody. Not one dime. The government did nothing for them. No one owed them a living. No one.
No one owes you one either....

 

[The Irish Ram]

But It's certainly the majority. Even most White liberals are racist. It's genetic.

Boy, have you bought into a pile of shit. lol.
So, what gene is it that is responsible for racism in whites? We have been using gene therapy for years now. What gene should we be targeting to rid the world of racism?
What gene do you carry that is responsible for the blacks racism against Asians, Jews and Whites?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

It's shit like this that makes people look down on black people.
What is the white man gonna do about black problems....I'd be embarrassed as hell to say something like this.
I was raised since I was a little kid not to beg for help from the government or anyone else.
In fact my Dad would have smacked the taste out of my mouth if he caught me saying something like that.
And there lies the problem in the black community...no father figure to teach them about being a man and being responsible for their own actions.

 

[IM2]

Who knew it was so simple.

It has to start there. As long as whites don't believe their racism is a problem, there can be no solutions.

 

[IM2]

It's shit like this that makes people look down on black people.
What is the white man gonna do about black problems....I'd be embarrassed as hell to say something like this.
I was raised since I was a little kid not to beg for help from the government or anyone else.
In fact my Dad would have smacked the taste out of my mouth if he caught me saying something like that.
And there lies the problem in the black community...no father figure to teach them about being a man and being responsible for their own actions.

Racism is the white mans problem and because the white man has been in decision-making positions the white mans racism causes problems for us. You were taught not to beg for help from the government while whites have been provided help from the government. You don't seem to understand that. This delusion those like you live in has gotta go. Your father taught you how to be delusional. My father showed me how the government helped whites. And there lies the problem in the white community, fathers passing psychosis to their children.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

It gets old reading the threads made by racists claiming to be concerned about issues affecting blacks. We have a Black Death thread by a racist lying about his concern about killings in the inner city. We have another racist who has determined she knows that racism is not a reason why blacks are in poverty. We have another racist who started calling himself debating me about racism, but that turned into the usual racist righ lecture about black crime.

We’ve heard all the so-called “politically incorrect” comments telling us that the problems plaguing black communities are self-inflicted and include: unmarried births, fatherless homes, refusal to take education seriously, rap music, worship of thug culture, genetic inferiority, low IQ, making up racism to get paid, the victim mentality, waiting for a handout, government dependence, special rights and whatever else. All of this is incorrect. Let us genuinely step out of the box. It is time to get honest about leaving the so-called plantation. Other blacks have tried to be polite and politically correct about this. I won’t be. The root cause of the problems blacks face today is white racism. Don’t conflate what you just read. I said white racism, not white people. Every white person is NOT a racist.

Yes, that’s what I said. I am not waiting for whites to give me anything free. I do not have some so-called victim mentality whereby I blame whites for my failings. If I have failed at things, I failed on my own. It is time some whites stopped the juvenile name-calling and tightened up. The reality of racism is not about failing. It is about denial—the denial of opportunity. The failure lies in those who have chosen to fall for what white race pimps have told them. White racism IS the root cause; it is the fundamental reason for the occurrence of problems in the black community.

According to every definition, personal or individual responsibility is the idea that human beings create their own life experiences by their choices. I say this because it is apparent that today, some whites do not seem to understand what it means. The racist subculture is part of a 400-year pattern of behavior that has been consistent, and it is based on a belief in superiority. Our problems are primarily due to choices whites in power have made. Whites chose to deny blacks equal rights by various American laws for nearly 200 years, and some still choose to reject complete equality today. Those who like to preach to people about taking personal responsibility should consider these inconvenient truths.

We know blacks were denied constitutional rights such as citizenship, habeas corpus, unreasonable search, seizure, and freedom itself, which deprived blacks of every opportunity we were supposed to be granted by law. The suburbs were built with guaranteed government loans given primarily to whites. We know that black communities were redlined, making loans for blacks trying to buy homes in those neighborhoods risks banks refused to take. We know that federal housing policy created the slums and ghettos. City zoning policy created black communities divided by freeways and close to industries spewing poisonous waste. We know that government policy consistently underfunds schools in the black community. In the 21st century, we know that a process called retail redlining exists whereby retail businesses refuse to go into black communities. Today, political donors from outside the black community have undue influence relative to city policies, and that influence has negatively impacted black communities.

After President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, some believe that Jim Crow magically disappeared even as we are today looking at lawmakers who were born and raised during Jim Crow. Books such as “Color of Law" “White Rage" “American Apartheid" “The New Jim Crow" “A Colony Within A Nation,” or “Racism without Racists,” provide examples of the great pains the American government took to establish and maintain a system based on white racial supremacy. They detail the toll such policies have inflicted upon blacks and all other people of color in America. Countless studies document the adverse effects of purposefully designed racially exclusionary American public policy on black communities. Despite the findings, anyone concluding the cause is white racism will get a person ridiculed by some members of the white community. In addition, one must battle people of color who have been shamed into adopting right-wing opinions about some kind of imaginary victim mentality.

To repeat a phrase from Funkadelic, “You can’t know what’s going on if you seek.” We are now into the third decade of the 21st century; therefore, it has become time for some whites to understand they are not experts on the problems in the black community, the causes of those problems, or the solutions.

In the movie “The Shawshank Redemption,” Andy Dufrane went to the warden after listening to a story from a prisoner who got transferred into Shawshank and had been a cellmate with the man who committed the murders that got Dufrane sent to prison. Dufrane repeated the story to the Warden. After listening, Warden Norton knew that Dufrane was telling the truth. Instead of letting Dufrane get a new trial, the Warden started making excuses for why he could not do it. The denials were because Warden Norton was being paid under the table as he ran a contracting scam that included laundering money using Dufrane as an accountant. After listening to the many excuses from Norton, Dufrane asked the question, “Are you always so obtuse?”

This is a perfect analogy to describe the relationship between many in the white community and us as black people. History is documented. There really can be no denial of what has gone on. Despite the facts, some whites believe these things have no relationship to how and why things are as they are now. Like Norton, they have lived in a system that has afforded them wealth and do not want it changed. There are some whites, regardless of party or ideology, who refuse to take a realistic look at the issue of race. It seems people want to solve race-based problems without looking at race to solve them. As mentioned earlier, I do not attest to being the most brilliant or most intellectual man. Still, common sense says that if a system is built on denying specific races access to opportunity, racism will be at least partly the reason for the problems that exist due to that exclusion.

What I say is backed up by these links and many more. Not one of you racists argue with anything close to this kind of supporting evidence. Channel4 is not such evidence.

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Angelique M. Davis & Rose Ernst (2019) Racial gaslighting, Politics, Groups, and Identities, 7:4, 761-774, DOI: 10.1080/21565503.2017.1403934

Cheyna Roth, Racism Declared A Public Health Crisis In New Whitmer Executive Directive, Aug 05, 2020, Racism declared a public health crisis in new Whitmer executive directive

Is Racism a Public Health Issue? Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health, October 9, 2017, Is Racism a Public Health Issue? — Center for the Study of Racism, Social Justice & Health

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Trauma, Racism, Chronic Stress and the Health of Black Americans, Compilation by the SAMHSA Office of Behavioral Health Equity, June 3, 2020, https://www.mhanational.org/sites/default/files/AfricanAmericansRaceViolenceandHealth SAMHSA OBHE 6.3.20.pdf

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Maya Oppenheim, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates, Tuesday 22 August 2017, 22 million Americans support neo-Nazis, new poll indicates

Sarah Ruiz-Grossman, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll, Sep. 15, 2017/ Updated Sep 16, 2017, Most Americans Oppose White Supremacists, But Many Share Their Views: Poll

Thomson Reuters and the University of Virginia Center for Politics, Reuters/Ipsos/UVA Center for Politics Race Poll, September 11, 2017, https://centerforpolitics.org/cryst...017-Reuters-UVA-Ipsos-Race-Poll-9-11-2017.pdf

Williams, T. (2000). The Homestead Act: A major asset-building policy in American history (CSD Working Paper No. 00-9). St. Louis, MO: Washington University, Center for Social Development. The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-Building Policy in American History

Alexis C. Madrigal, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood, The Atlantic, May 22, 2014, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood

PBS, Race-The Power of An Illusion, Uncle Sam Lends A Hand, Did the Government Racialize Housing and Wealth? RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Go Deeper | PBS

Larry DeWitt, The Decision to Exclude Agricultural and Domestic Workers from the 1935 Social Security Act, Social Security Bulletin, Vol. 70, No. 4, 2010

Brad Plumer, A second look at Social Security’s racist origins, Washington Post, June 3, 2013, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...cond-look-at-social-securitys-racist-origins/

Erin Blakemore, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, June 21, 2019

Sally Kohn, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone, Time, JUNE 17, 2013, Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone.

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Victoria M. Massie, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents, White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

Brandon Weber, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill, The Progressive, November 10, 2017, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill

Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery, Africans did NOT sell their own people into slavery

Liam Hogan, All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’19),

Liam Hogan, Irish slaves’: the convenient myth, ‘Irish slaves’: the convenient myth

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How the Irish Became White

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Define: BLACK PERSON

I doubt you even know what a black person is.

This is a "black" person....

And so is this.....

YOUR intent is malicious, divisive and deceptive. You do not care about black people. You only care to incite rage, hatred and violence.
You should be banned.

 

[IM2]

Define: BLACK PERSON

No. Work to rid your community of racism.

 

[IM2]

Bullshit. Hard work and ingenuity pulled whites up by their boot straps. No hand outs. Hand outs were an embarrassment to whites.

While you had been voting for years, my great grandmother held the first vote she fought for in her parlor, years later. When her husband died and left her with 3 little girls, she turned that parlor into a tea room and worked her ass off, and when my grandmother was left with 2 small children to raise during a depression, she turned that business into a million dollar floral business by working her ass off. Not one complaint from either of them about their poor lot in life and they never took a dime of help from anybody. Not one dime. The government did nothing for them. No one owed them a living. No one.
No one owes you one either....

No. Direct government economic assistance did and it was done on several occasions.

 

[The Irish Ram]

No. Direct government economic assistance did and it was done on several occasions.

lol. Not one dime...

 

[LOIE]

The root cause of the problems blacks face today is white racism.

From the book "Unequal," which I'm sure some here will totally dismiss because of who wrote it, but IT IS THE TRUTH, whether or not they wish to accept it.

"In 1967, with the fires in Detroit still smoldering, President Lyndon B. Johnson commissioned a group of experts to investigate the reasons behind the uprisings in America's cities. After exhaustive research and on-the-spot interviews, the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders- dubbed the Kerner Commission after its chair Governor Otto Kerner, Jr. of Illinois- published a damning report in 1968, drawing conclusions that we not so different from Malcolm X's own. "What white Americans have never fully understood but what the Negro can never forget," the report declared, "is that white society is deeply implicated in the ghetto. White institutions created it, white institutions maintain it, and white society condones it."

It ended with an ominous warning to all Americans. "This is our basic conclusion." Our nation is moving toward two societies, one black and one white - separate and unequal."

The rebellions in Los Angeles, Newark, New York, Detroit, and other cities sent a message to all Americans. The victories against Jim Crow in the south did not end racism in the United States. Ever since the days of Malcolm X, the struggle to end unequal law enforcement and police brutality has been the longest-running, unresolved battle for equality in America."

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

It has to start there. As long as whites don't believe their racism is a problem, there can be no solutions.

I guess you're fucked than.
Sounds like you're gonna have to deal with your own problems and not rely on whitey.
Thats just a shame.....

 

[IM2]

I guess you're fucked than.
Sounds like you're gonna have to deal with your own problems and not rely on whitey.
Thats just a shame.....

Since "whitey" IS our problem, we will continue the fight until "whitey" is no longer the problem.

 

[LOIE]

Tons of options have been given to blacks over the decades. They refuse them, call them "racist" because they don't want to have to WORK to get a paycheck. They'd rather sit on their asses popping out welfare babies and overpopulating the ghettos even MORE!!

What a ridiculous generalization of an entire group of people. Can't possibly be true and accurate, not matter how much you want it to be.

 

[IM2]

From the book "Unequal," which I'm sure some here will totally dismiss because of who wrote it, but IT IS THE TRUTH, whether or not they wish to accept it.

"In 1967, with the fires in Detroit still smoldering, President Lyndon B. Johnson commissioned a group of experts to investigate the reasons behind the uprisings in America's cities. After exhaustive research and on-the-spot interviews, the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders- dubbed the Kerner Commission after its chair Governor Otto Kerner, Jr. of Illinois- published a damning report in 1968, drawing conclusions that we not so different from Malcolm X's own. "What white Americans have never fully understood but what the Negro can never forget," the report declared, "is that white society is deeply implicated in the ghetto. White institutions created it, white institutions maintain it, and white society condones it."

It ended with an ominous warning to all Americans. "This is our basic conclusion." Our nation is moving toward two societies, one black and one white - separate and unequal."

The rebellions in Los Angeles, Newark, New York, Detroit, and other cities sent a message to all Americans. The victories against Jim Crow in the south did not end racism in the United States. Ever since the days of Malcolm X, the struggle to end unequal law enforcement and police brutality has been the longest-running, unresolved battle for equality in America."

They are delusional. Fortunately, there are more whites like you than them.

 

[IM2]

lol. Not one dime...

Actually, it has been trillions when you add them all up.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Racism is the white mans problem and because the white man has been in decision-making positions the white mans racism causes problems for us. You were taught not to beg for help from the government while whites have been provided help from the government. You don't seem to understand that. This delusion those like you live in has gotta go. Your father taught you how to be delusional. My father showed me how the government helped whites. And there lies the problem in the white community, fathers passing psychosis to their children.

Sounds like your daddy was a beggar just like you.
I've never accepted any help from the government unlike you who begs for more free shit from whitey on a regular basis.
The very fact that there are many successful black people out there highlights your fake narrative.
It's simple,stop being a little bitch and get to work. That always works....unlike you.

 

[LOIE]

Why do you need the white man to find solutions for your problems?

I don't know why I bother with racists like you, but I am genuinely curious.

Solve your own problems and do it without breaking any laws or harming other citizens.

This is not looking to the white man to find solutions, it is stating facts that have created a great inequality in this nation. It is about white people recognizing that the playing field has never been level, the great harm has been done that has ramifications to this very day. Like Ta-Nahisi Coates says, just because at some point you decide to stop beating me with a stick, that does not heal the wounds or make the damage automatically go away. Stop the hurt, then start the healing process, which to me involves admission, apology and restitution.