Right-Wing Challenge: Fair Income Tax For The Top 50% vs Bottom 50%

[Southern Dad]

Here are the Federal tax rates. The minimum rate is 10%.
If you want to eliminate tax deductions, that would generate a lot more revenue.

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I understand the federal tax rates and I know how people wind up with zero or even negative federal income tax rates. We already have something called the Alternative Minimum Tax Rate. Something like that should be used for everyone. No one should pay zero percent or less.

 

[Southern Dad]

lol you either can't read or you are clueless. So you disapprove of adjusting the standard deduction for inflation?

Here we go, off to personal insults. This is adult political conversation, are you up to it? I believe that we should have the deductions and adjustments BUT there should be a minimum tax percentage. Think of it like the Alternative Minimum Income Tax. You use all your deductions and wind up owing zero or less than zero, then you pay a straight 3%, whichever is greater.

 

[Delldude]

Here we go, off to personal insults. This is adult political conversation, are you up to it? I believe that we should have the deductions and adjustments BUT there should be a minimum tax percentage. Think of it like the Alternative Minimum Income Tax. You use all your deductions and wind up owing zero or less than zero, then you pay a straight 3%, whichever is greater.

You call those personal insults......Yain't frum roun' these parts, aire ya?

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Here we go, off to personal insults. This is adult political conversation,

lol you aren't an adult, and they are accurate descriptions, not insults.

are you up to it?

Only with those who can carry one, which doesn't include you. of course.

I believe that we should have the deductions and adjustments BUT there should be a minimum tax percentage. Think of it like the Alternative Minimum Income Tax. You use all your deductions and wind up owing zero or less than zero, then you pay a straight 3%, whichever is greater.

The 'poor' pay all kinds of taxes, and usually at a much higher percentage of their incomes than most middle class people do, and certainly more than the majority of the wealthy pay already. As for 'deductions' they qualify for a lot less of those than the middle class and wealthy have as well, too. Warren Buffet wasn;t lying when he pointed out he paid less intaxes than his secretary did.

Try reading adult level information sources instead of the kiddie pool fantasies at Town Hall and FreeRepublic.

 

[Oddball]

 

[Hafar1014]

lol you aren't an adult, and they are accurate descriptions, not insults.



Only with those who can carry one, which doesn't include you. of course.



The 'poor' pay all kinds of taxes, and usually at a much higher percentage of their incomes than most middle class people do, and certainly more than the majority of the wealthy pay already. As for 'deductions' they qualify for a lot less of those than the middle class and wealthy have as well, too. Warren Buffet wasn;t lying when he pointed out he paid less intaxes than his secretary did.

Try reading adult level information sources instead of the kiddie pool fantasies at Town Hall and FreeRepublic.

You forgot to add the free benefits the poor get. They dont pay any taxes at all after thats counted.
You have the Buffet statement wrong. He was comparing the capital gains tax to the income tax not the amount paid. Anyone can pay the capital gains tax just invest.

 

[Hector12]

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The overall tax rate is mildly progressive, while income from all sources is greatly unequal.

 

[Oddball]

So make it equal....

 

[Hafar1014]

The overall tax rate is mildly progressive, while income from all sources is greatly unequal.

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The poor pay zero inc0me taxes. Your chart involves sales and excise taxes

 

[Hector12]

The poor pay zero inc0me taxes. Your chart involves sales and excise taxes

The poor should pay zero income taxes. They should see the government as the bringer of good things, presented by the Democrats, and threatened by the Republicans.

 

[citygator]

You forgot to add the free benefits the poor get. They dont pay any taxes at all after thats counted.
You have the Buffet statement wrong. He was comparing the capital gains tax to the income tax not the amount paid. Anyone can pay the capital gains tax just invest.

Youre a genius. The real problem in America is that poor people have too much money!

You're literally the worst troll on the site. You HAVE to be a liberal pretending to be a dumb right winger. There is just no way these are real posts.

 

[Delldude]

You're literally the worst troll on the site.

Priceless.

 

[citygator]

Priceless.

Thank you. We agree on something. That dude never posts facts. Just his feelings.

 

[struth]

Youre a genius. The real problem in America is that poor people have too much money!

You're literally the worst troll on the site. You HAVE to be a liberal pretending to be a dumb right winger. There is just no way these are real posts.

He didn't say the real problem in America was that poor people have too much money....you are just trolling

 

[citygator]

He didn't say the real problem in America was that poor people have too much money....you are just trolling

He said the issue is poor people dont pay taxes ( a lie since they pay a bunch of taxes just not income taxes) AND that they get tons of freebies. You add up the fact he thinks poor people pay too little and get too much that 100% equates to "poor people have too much money".

 

[sartre play]

No income tax. What could be more fair than that?

but we need taxes to run the country. Not more debt.

 

[struth]

He said the issue is poor people dont pay taxes ( a lie since they pay a bunch of taxes just not income taxes) AND that they get tons of freebies. You add up the fact he thinks poor people pay too little and get too much that 100% equates to "poor people have too much money".

No, he said they pay zero income taxes. Try again. That is in fact true.

THey also do get a ton of freebies....it has been a problem, ever since the Dems " War on Poverty" started, cause all it's done is grown proverty, and increased the debt.

The system designed by LBJ and the dems has failed.

 

[jc456]

The poor should pay zero income taxes. They should see the government as the bringer of good things, presented by the Democrats, and threatened by the Republicans.

The poor should remain poor under dem stupidity, in fact, dems are trying to double down on who is poor. Their objective is to get rid of the working class.

 

[sartre play]

Cut spending.

Cut SPENDING, where is the answer?

 

[struth]

The poor should remain poor under dem stupidity, in fact, dems are trying to double down on who is poor. Their objective is to get rid of the working class.

Correct, the Dem plan is to make MORE people poor