Rick Perry compares homosexuality to alcoholism

[Quantum Windbag]

why not?....is it an impossibility?...there are quite a few articles exploring this.....a Swedish study showed differences in the shape of the gays brains....females are more in line with strait men and males more in line with strait females....so is it an impossibility?....

Gay Brain Science: Homosexuality a Birth Defect?

Fischer: New Theory Suggests 'Homosexuality is the Result of a Birth Defect' | Right Wing Watch
and then there is this one....
Homosexuality identified as birth defect from smoking while pregnant - Arlington Political Buzz | Examiner.com

The Swedish study showed no cause/effect link. Even if every homosexual's brain is different you cannot prove that that difference is not the result of being gay. But feel free to pretend it proves something if it makes you feel better.

The other stuff is all crap.

well no one can prove there is or isnt a God either.....but that does not mean a "God" does not exists.....for a guy who claims he is open minded QW....you sure as hell aint proving it in this thread...just scoffing at even the possibility of this proves that....just because you dont want to believe it does not mean it aint possible... but hey...feel free to pretend what you believe is the only way it is if it makes you feel better.....me,ill keep an open mind.....because as most people know..... anything is possible

What the fuck?

Why does everyone think being open minded means that I have to accept the possibility that the Moon is made out of green cheese?

I am open to well founded arguments based on science and facts, not wild theories based on a belief that being gay is a disease that can be cured. Sexual preference is a choice, there is absolutely no scientific evidence to counter that contention, and plenty that actually backs it up. It is 100% proven that sexual preference is not genetic by the fact that monozygotic twins have made different choices about which gender to sleep with. This also seriously undermines the argument that it is caused by the mother smoking or other prenatal activities because monozygotic twins share the same placenta.

Seriously, I am not the one with the problem here, my opinions are based on science that has stood the test of time, not political expediency.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

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Let me point out, again, that sexual preference is not set at birth.

So there's no such thing as a natural sexual orientation?

Did I say that?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

different situation and you know it...... none of the kids im talking about used to play with the boys...never...never played ball with us....never played "army" with us....never even been with the guys on the monkey bars......and as they got older...they were gay....just the way it is....some people are born that way.....maybe when you touched Barbies tits you got a boner....these boys were more into Ken....

Maybe they weren't gay, maybe they just didn't like playing with assholes. I know the only time I played with the boys was in PE, and then only because I was forced to do so.

It did not make me gay because no one on this planet is born gay.

What you just said made absolutely no sense what so ever. You were "forced" to play with boys, but that did not make you gay therefore nobody can be born gay? WTF?

When did you choose your sexual orientation? How old were you? Did you flip a coin?

See, I don't recall making a choice. From my earliest memories all my crushes were on other girls...no choice in the matter. Were you attracted to both boys and girls and chose only one?

12 June 1973

When did you chose yours?

 

[NYcarbineer]

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Let me point out, again, that sexual preference is not set at birth.

So there's no such thing as a natural sexual orientation?

Did I say that?

It appears you did.

If sexual preference is not set at birth, then heterosexuality, which is a sexual preference, is not set at birth,

therefore it cannot be a natural sexual orientation, by the definition of natural, as,

"existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind."

Is your position that heterosexuality and homosexuality are both choices?

 

[Harry Dresden]

God's existence has been proven for centuries now.

Just because some biased idiots refuse to look into the matter and make a rational decision changes nothing.

oh?....you care to put the evidence here because even though i believe there is something there responsible for everything i have never seen anything proving anything one way or another...it all just seems to be belief....

Well you could start with the Greek Philosophers who developed the philosophy of Emanationism.

greek emanationism - Google Scholar

Then you could read Aquinas, and reflect on the proven fact that an infinite regression in normal space and time is impossible.

If you can wrap your pea-brain around any of that and then talk about it I'd be happy to.

But the Truth of God's existence is apriori and does not require proof anyway, jack ass.

it doesnt?.....and im the jackass with the pea brain?....hey asswipe...you said "God's existence has been proven for centuries now."....the word PROVEN has a meaning....show me the proof...not what bunch of people believe...and If you can wrap your pea-brain around that and then talk about it I'd be happy to.....fucking dipshit....

 

[Siete]

when science meets intelligence ..


Perry bought some glasses (science)

now he's smarter (intelligence)

translation;

with a little rehab the queers can beat being queers.

Have a dick errrrr drink, Rick.

 

[Harry Dresden]

The Swedish study showed no cause/effect link. Even if every homosexual's brain is different you cannot prove that that difference is not the result of being gay. But feel free to pretend it proves something if it makes you feel better.

The other stuff is all crap.

well no one can prove there is or isnt a God either.....but that does not mean a "God" does not exists.....for a guy who claims he is open minded QW....you sure as hell aint proving it in this thread...just scoffing at even the possibility of this proves that....just because you dont want to believe it does not mean it aint possible... but hey...feel free to pretend what you believe is the only way it is if it makes you feel better.....me,ill keep an open mind.....because as most people know..... anything is possible

What the fuck?

Why does everyone think being open minded means that I have to accept the possibility that the Moon is made out of green cheese?

I am open to well founded arguments based on science and facts, not wild theories based on a belief that being gay is a disease that can be cured. Sexual preference is a choice, there is absolutely no scientific evidence to counter that contention, and plenty that actually backs it up. It is 100% proven that sexual preference is not genetic by the fact that monozygotic twins have made different choices about which gender to sleep with. This also seriously undermines the argument that it is caused by the mother smoking or other prenatal activities because monozygotic twins share the same placenta.

Seriously, I am not the one with the problem here, my opinions are based on science that has stood the test of time, not political expediency.

well since we have been to the Moon and know it aint cheese your point is kind of moot aint it?.......and yea your close minded about things that you dont want to believe that maybe possible.....you are like the people hundreds of years ago who did not believe the theories of Copernicus or Galileo because it interfered with what they believed aint possible.....for you not to even say there is a possibility it can be true says something about your "open mind".....an open minded person would say there can be a possibility,but i dont buy it,it will have to be proven......open minded people leave room for the "impossible" to be proven........sorry but i think you not only have problems being around guys you have problems accepting things that you just cant believe can be possibly true.....open your mind QW you are sounding like the people Dean talks about......

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So there's no such thing as a natural sexual orientation?

Did I say that?

It appears you did.

If sexual preference is not set at birth, then heterosexuality, which is a sexual preference, is not set at birth,

therefore it cannot be a natural sexual orientation, by the definition of natural, as,

"existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind."

Is your position that heterosexuality and homosexuality are both choices?

My position is that science supports the fact that we have free will. If you somehow believe that makes every choice we make unnatural, you must think that free will comes from a source external to human beings. That makes you an idiot.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

well no one can prove there is or isnt a God either.....but that does not mean a "God" does not exists.....for a guy who claims he is open minded QW....you sure as hell aint proving it in this thread...just scoffing at even the possibility of this proves that....just because you dont want to believe it does not mean it aint possible... but hey...feel free to pretend what you believe is the only way it is if it makes you feel better.....me,ill keep an open mind.....because as most people know..... anything is possible

What the fuck?

Why does everyone think being open minded means that I have to accept the possibility that the Moon is made out of green cheese?

I am open to well founded arguments based on science and facts, not wild theories based on a belief that being gay is a disease that can be cured. Sexual preference is a choice, there is absolutely no scientific evidence to counter that contention, and plenty that actually backs it up. It is 100% proven that sexual preference is not genetic by the fact that monozygotic twins have made different choices about which gender to sleep with. This also seriously undermines the argument that it is caused by the mother smoking or other prenatal activities because monozygotic twins share the same placenta.

Seriously, I am not the one with the problem here, my opinions are based on science that has stood the test of time, not political expediency.

well since we have been to the Moon and know it aint cheese your point is kind of moot aint it?.......and yea your close minded about things that you dont want to believe that maybe possible.....you are like the people hundreds of years ago who did not believe the theories of Copernicus or Galileo because it interfered with what they believed aint possible.....for you not to even say there is a possibility it can be true says something about your "open mind".....an open minded person would say there can be a possibility,but i dont buy it,it will have to be proven......open minded people leave room for the "impossible" to be proven........sorry but i think you not only have problems being around guys you have problems accepting things that you just cant believe can be possibly true.....open your mind QW you are sounding like the people Dean talks about......

It is like you told the guy that says God's existence is proven, provide some actual evidence. Every bit of research I have read proves that sexual preference is not set at birth. There is absolutely no genetic marker, no evidence that brain formation is a factor, no evidence that prenatal smoking cause it, nothing. That means you want me to accept the possibility that something with absolutely no evidence to support it is true. You might as well ask me to believe that rainbows are unicorn farts, I will not accept it because all the evidence contradicts it.

If you think that makes me close minded, then I will take the label and wear it proudly.

 

[Kosh]

Another failed far left thread to divert from what a dismal failure Obama is.

 

[Crystalclear]

Another failed far left thread to divert from what a dismal failure Obama is.

In what ways? And what should we do, talk all day long about Obama, like you?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Both are choices we Americans should have a right to take part in. Who are you fascist to tell me anything?

I'll drink, smoke pot and smoke a pole if I damn well please!

 

[Seawytch]

Maybe they weren't gay, maybe they just didn't like playing with assholes. I know the only time I played with the boys was in PE, and then only because I was forced to do so.

It did not make me gay because no one on this planet is born gay.

What you just said made absolutely no sense what so ever. You were "forced" to play with boys, but that did not make you gay therefore nobody can be born gay? WTF?

When did you choose your sexual orientation? How old were you? Did you flip a coin?

See, I don't recall making a choice. From my earliest memories all my crushes were on other girls...no choice in the matter. Were you attracted to both boys and girls and chose only one?

12 June 1973

When did you chose yours?

That's just it, I didn't "choose". So, how did you actually choose which gender you were going with? Did you find yourself equally attracted to both genders or one more than the other? Did you flip a coin, throw a dart?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Another failed far left thread to divert from what a dismal failure Obama is.

In what ways? And what should we do, talk all day long about Obama, like you?

A suggestion. Ignore Kosh. He has a problem.

 

[Dr Grump]

Who cares what Rick Perry thinks. He's in the same mould as Palin and Quayle. A dumb arse US politician voted in by dumb arse conservative whackos...

 

[NYcarbineer]

Did I say that?

It appears you did.

If sexual preference is not set at birth, then heterosexuality, which is a sexual preference, is not set at birth,

therefore it cannot be a natural sexual orientation, by the definition of natural, as,

"existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind."

Is your position that heterosexuality and homosexuality are both choices?

My position is that science supports the fact that we have free will. If you somehow believe that makes every choice we make unnatural, you must think that free will comes from a source external to human beings. That makes you an idiot.

You always end up in some incoherent song and dance.

You said that sexual preference is not set at birth. That means that no one is born heterosexual.

Do you stand by that opinion or not?

 

[GreenBean]

And? He's right. Homosexuality is a choice and is a mental disease. Also put a damn link up.

How long were you a homosexual?

Typical Textbook Socio-Facist Response. You've been conditioned to respond in this fashion - you will respond in this fashion - you will obey Big Brother - thou shalt not offend LGBT - you are getting tired - your eyelids are getting heavy - you will respond in this fashion.

Jamming - A tactic used to force opponents into silence by accusations of homophobia, latent homosexual tendencies and bigotry . The purpose being to create a social stigmatization of anyone whom opposes the Agenda. Jamming is to ridicule the opponent in the eyes of the world and to evoke the "pack mentality" .

Jamming is basically psychological terrorism intended to silence expression of or support for any dissenting opinion.

Jamming employs the science of Direct Emotional Modeling and Associative Conditioning.

Gay* Brainwashing Techniques

 

[Dr Grump]

Typical Textbook Socio-Facist Response. You've been conditioned to respond in this fashion - you will respond in this fashion - you will obey Big Brother - thou shalt not offend LGBT - you are getting tired - your eyelids are getting heavy - you will respond in this fashion.

Jamming - A tactic used to force opponents into silence by accusations of homophobia, latent homosexual tendencies and bigotry . The purpose being to create a social stigmatization of anyone whom opposes the Agenda. Jamming is to ridicule the opponent in the eyes of the world and to evoke the "pack mentality" .

Jamming is basically psychological terrorism intended to silence expression of or support for any dissenting opinion.

Jamming employs the science of Direct Emotional Modeling and Associative Conditioning.

Gay* Brainwashing Techniques

Maybe if you just STFU and let gay people get on with their lives instead of trying to impose your bigotry on them they wouldn't be so touchy.

The defensiveness of gay people didnt come out of a vacuum. it came out of bigotry of those trying to impose their will on them. No different to the formation of the NAACP coming into existence to counter whitey's racism.

You seem to think that if you kick somebody when they're down, they should take it.

Before you whine about gay activism - go look in the mirror. It is people like you who caused such activism in the first place.

Grow up.

 

[NYcarbineer]

And? He's right. Homosexuality is a choice and is a mental disease. Also put a damn link up.

How long were you a homosexual?

Typical Textbook Socio-Facist Response. You've been conditioned to respond in this fashion - you will respond in this fashion - you will obey Big Brother - thou shalt not offend LGBT - you are getting tired - your eyelids are getting heavy - you will respond in this fashion.

Jamming - A tactic used to force opponents into silence by accusations of homophobia, latent homosexual tendencies and bigotry . The purpose being to create a social stigmatization of anyone whom opposes the Agenda. Jamming is to ridicule the opponent in the eyes of the world and to evoke the "pack mentality" .

Jamming is basically psychological terrorism intended to silence expression of or support for any dissenting opinion.

Jamming employs the science of Direct Emotional Modeling and Associative Conditioning.

Gay* Brainwashing Techniques

Bad arguments for a good cause don't change the fact that it's a good cause. There are no good arguments against gay rights, no good arguments against full equality for gays in every measure.

 

[Seawytch]

It appears you did.

If sexual preference is not set at birth, then heterosexuality, which is a sexual preference, is not set at birth,

therefore it cannot be a natural sexual orientation, by the definition of natural, as,

"existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind."

Is your position that heterosexuality and homosexuality are both choices?

My position is that science supports the fact that we have free will. If you somehow believe that makes every choice we make unnatural, you must think that free will comes from a source external to human beings. That makes you an idiot.

You always end up in some incoherent song and dance.

You said that sexual preference is not set at birth. That means that no one is born heterosexual.

Do you stand by that opinion or not?

He said he made a choice. If I had to guess, I'd say born bisexual but is choosing only one gender.