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If you want to understand why Repubs are competitive in elections (besides gerrymandering) despite favoring unpopular policy positions on just about every major issue, this post provides an explanation. In a nutshell, it's their unmatched ability to exploit the public's ignorance and spread disinformation on wedge issues.
DEBUNKING LIES ABOUT BAIL REFORM
Ahead of the 2022 legislative session, there has been an increased appeal from those opposed to criminal legal reforms to change certain New York State laws, such as the pretrial reforms that went into effect in the first half of 2020. Those reforms prohibited cash bail for certain misdemeanors and nonviolent offenses, so that thousands of individuals – all of whom are considered innocent of their charges until proven otherwise – could take care of their families, keep their jobs, and work with their attorneys to prepare their cases.
The calls for rollbacks to bail reform claim these bail law changes have caused an increase in violent crime across the state, stoking public safety concerns about the law’s impact. However, a closer look shows that these claims are either based on no evidence or on faulty data.
Fact-Check: Lies About Crime & Bail Reform
Analysis: What’s Really Driving Crime in New York
https://www.timesunion.com/news/art...-bail-reform-is-to-blame-for-gun-16333386.php
Fact-checking claims bail reform is driving increase in violent crime
During a congressional hearing in late June, Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, suggested reforms eliminating cash bail could partially be to blame for the recent spike in crime. Graham asked FBI Director Christopher Wray if he believed “one of the reasons crime is on the rise is that certain jurisdictions have basically eliminated bail?”
“You catch them on Monday morning and they’re out on the streets Monday afternoon,” Graham said.
While Wray did not directly answer Graham’s question, he suggested that “one of the causes of the violent crime spike are certain kinds of prosecution practices,” adding that “there’s nothing more disheartening to a law enforcement officer to see somebody that you worked hard to arrest promptly back out committing a crime again.”
Facts First: There’s no clear evidence linking bail reforms – which have been in place for years in some cities – to the recent rise in violent crimes. In fact, the majority of cities that have seen increases in crime have not eliminated cash bail. Many variables have contributed to the increases Graham is referencing but CNN has seen no evidence to suggest that bail reform is a major factor.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/07/politics/bail-reform-violent-crime-fact-check
As is often the case, the foundation for the disinformation being spread about the connection between cashless bail and increased crime is created from another steaming pile of horse shyte.
Fact check: The GOP’s dishonesty-filled barrage of ‘defund the police’ attack ads
WashingtonCNN —
Republicans have been running ads around the country that use a variety of dishonest tactics to try to create the inaccurate impression that the Democratic candidates they are targeting support defunding the police.
Some of the Republican ads simply make things up. Other ads falsely describe bills the Democratic candidates have supported. Still other ads try guilt by association, noting that the candidates have supporters who have called to defund the police but not mentioning that the candidates themselves have rejected defunding the police.
One particularly egregious guilt-by-association ad accuses a Democrat of marching with a pro-defunding progressive group without providing evidence of the supposed marching and without noting that the event in question was a local “Fun Fest” that took place nearly three years before the group endorsed defunding.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/23/politics/fact-check-defund-the-police-ads-2022-midterms/index.html
In short, Repubs seized on an increase in crime all over the country during the pandemic to weave a duplicitous narrative combining falsehoods about cashless bail and "defund the police".........the mis-named idea that police violence could be mitigated by reallocating funds within police depts.........., to come up with the campaign slogan that Dems are soft on crime. In typical fashion, Dems have not created an effective counter narrative. In part because the simplistic messaging by Repubs requires complexity to refute.
Note to The Following: Attempts to dismiss the content of this post based on the sources used, without factual refutation, will be ignored.
DEBUNKING LIES ABOUT BAIL REFORM
Ahead of the 2022 legislative session, there has been an increased appeal from those opposed to criminal legal reforms to change certain New York State laws, such as the pretrial reforms that went into effect in the first half of 2020. Those reforms prohibited cash bail for certain misdemeanors and nonviolent offenses, so that thousands of individuals – all of whom are considered innocent of their charges until proven otherwise – could take care of their families, keep their jobs, and work with their attorneys to prepare their cases.
The calls for rollbacks to bail reform claim these bail law changes have caused an increase in violent crime across the state, stoking public safety concerns about the law’s impact. However, a closer look shows that these claims are either based on no evidence or on faulty data.
Fact-Check: Lies About Crime & Bail Reform
Analysis: What’s Really Driving Crime in New York
https://www.timesunion.com/news/art...-bail-reform-is-to-blame-for-gun-16333386.php
Fact-checking claims bail reform is driving increase in violent crime
During a congressional hearing in late June, Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, suggested reforms eliminating cash bail could partially be to blame for the recent spike in crime. Graham asked FBI Director Christopher Wray if he believed “one of the reasons crime is on the rise is that certain jurisdictions have basically eliminated bail?”
“You catch them on Monday morning and they’re out on the streets Monday afternoon,” Graham said.
While Wray did not directly answer Graham’s question, he suggested that “one of the causes of the violent crime spike are certain kinds of prosecution practices,” adding that “there’s nothing more disheartening to a law enforcement officer to see somebody that you worked hard to arrest promptly back out committing a crime again.”
Facts First: There’s no clear evidence linking bail reforms – which have been in place for years in some cities – to the recent rise in violent crimes. In fact, the majority of cities that have seen increases in crime have not eliminated cash bail. Many variables have contributed to the increases Graham is referencing but CNN has seen no evidence to suggest that bail reform is a major factor.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/07/politics/bail-reform-violent-crime-fact-check
As is often the case, the foundation for the disinformation being spread about the connection between cashless bail and increased crime is created from another steaming pile of horse shyte.
Fact check: The GOP’s dishonesty-filled barrage of ‘defund the police’ attack ads
WashingtonCNN —
Republicans have been running ads around the country that use a variety of dishonest tactics to try to create the inaccurate impression that the Democratic candidates they are targeting support defunding the police.
Some of the Republican ads simply make things up. Other ads falsely describe bills the Democratic candidates have supported. Still other ads try guilt by association, noting that the candidates have supporters who have called to defund the police but not mentioning that the candidates themselves have rejected defunding the police.
One particularly egregious guilt-by-association ad accuses a Democrat of marching with a pro-defunding progressive group without providing evidence of the supposed marching and without noting that the event in question was a local “Fun Fest” that took place nearly three years before the group endorsed defunding.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/23/politics/fact-check-defund-the-police-ads-2022-midterms/index.html
In short, Repubs seized on an increase in crime all over the country during the pandemic to weave a duplicitous narrative combining falsehoods about cashless bail and "defund the police".........the mis-named idea that police violence could be mitigated by reallocating funds within police depts.........., to come up with the campaign slogan that Dems are soft on crime. In typical fashion, Dems have not created an effective counter narrative. In part because the simplistic messaging by Repubs requires complexity to refute.
Note to The Following: Attempts to dismiss the content of this post based on the sources used, without factual refutation, will be ignored.
